

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
Episodes
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Nov 12, 2020 • 51min
Episode 44: Integrative Thinking and the Process of Making Strategy: A Conversation with Jennifer Riel
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Jennifer Riel, IDEO Global Director, Strategy. Philip and Jennifer discuss the Integrative Thinking Model and how it informs and impacts an organizational strategy playbook.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life
Jennifer’s Drop: Schitt’s Creek
The Righteous Mind – Jonathan Haidt Special Guest: Jennifer Riel.

Nov 6, 2020 • 47min
Episode 43: Fluidity, Design and Equity: A Conversation with Garance Choko
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Garance Choko, the CEO of Coda Societies, a firm that shapes social and economic infrastructures to promote equity worldwide. They discuss Garance’s global work and how her thinking about fluid infrastructures informs her design perspective.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: My Octopus Teacher
Garance’s Drop: Leon Ford
Leon Ford TwitterSpecial Guest: Garance Choko.

Nov 1, 2020 • 50min
Episode 42: Counterculture, Techno-utopianism and the Social Good: A Conversation with Fred Turner
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Stanford professor Fred Turner. On the eve of the 2020 election Philip and Fred discuss the counterculture movements of the 60s and trace its legacy to our current tech and social reality.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip's Drop:
Stuart Hall Essential Essays (2 Volume Set)
Fred's Drop:
Stuart Hall Library
Logic Magazine Special Guest: Fred Turner.

Oct 29, 2020 • 56min
Episode 41: Emergent Strategy And Gathering Viable Future(s): A Conversation with adrienne maree brown
In this conversation, Philip spends time with adrienne maree brown discussing her books Emergent Strategy and Pleasure Activism. They dive into the radical nature of love and pleasure and the power of speculative futures.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Octavia Butler, notes she wrote to herself
Ursula K. Le Guin’s speech at the National Book Awards
adrienne’s Drop:
African Immortal Series by Tananarive Due
Erotic: Erotic as Power by Audrey LordeSpecial Guest: adrienne maree brown.

Oct 22, 2020 • 54min
Episode 40: The Power of What If and the Imagination Sundial: A Conversation with Rob Hopkins and Rob Shorter
In this conversation, Philip spends Rob Hopkins and Rob Shorter. The trio discuss Rob Hopkins’ book From What Is to What If and how it inspired the creation of the Imagination Sundial designed by Rob Shorter.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Chadwick Boseman
Rob Shorter’s Drop:
Radical tenderness by Dani d’Emilia, Vanessa Andreotti & GTDF
Rob Hopkins’ Drop:
Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds by Adrienne Maree BrownSpecial Guests: Rob Hopkins and Rob Shorter.

Oct 15, 2020 • 49min
Episode 39: How We Think of Tomorrow: A Conversation with Marcela Sabino
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Marcela Sabino, currently the Head of Innovation for the Museo of Tomorrow in Rio de Janeiro an applied science and technology Museum in Rio de Janeiro. Philip and Marcela explore the outer limits of design and how it impacts our cultural and lived spaces.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Plantation Lullabies by Meshell Ndegeocello
Marcela’s Drop:
The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson
Majur on SpotifySpecial Guest: Marcela Sabino.

Oct 8, 2020 • 54min
Episode 38: The Meaning of the Imagination Age: A Conversation with Rita J. King
In this conversation, Philip spends time Rita J. King, EVP for Business Development at Science House. In this episode they discuss Rita’s concept the Imagination Age and the role it plays in an ever-changing society.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The Human Organization of Time by Allen C. Bluedorn
Rita’s Drop:
Finite and Infinite Games by James CarseSpecial Guest: Rita J. King.

Oct 1, 2020 • 59min
Episode 37: The Power of Strategic Doing: A Conversation with Ed Morrison
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Ed Morrison, director of the Agile Strategy Lab at the University of North Alabama. Philip and Ed discuss his work in developing the methodology of strategic doing and how he has worked with a wide array of regions and communities to make these principles a force for real change.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Give Me Liberty by Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons
Ed’s Drop:
Dirt to Soil by Gabe BrownSpecial Guest: Ed Morrison.

Sep 24, 2020 • 58min
Episode 36: Leading the Charge for Transformational Change: A Conversation with Lina Srivastava
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Lina Srivastava, the founder of CIEL (Creative Impact and Experience Lab) and the soon to be launched Center for Transformational Change. Lina and Philip discuss her storied career and expertise in creating social impact strategy for organizations such as UNICEF, UNESCO and the World Bank. Lina shares why her focus on transformational change is critical given our social and political environment.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Boomerang
Love Jones
Love & Basketball
*Lina’s Drop: *
Jericho Brown’s The Tradition
Tara Skurtu's Internationl Poetry Circle Twitter Special Guest: Lina Srivastava.

Sep 10, 2020 • 1h 1min
Episode 35: Ecology, Spirituality and Justice Movements: A Conversation with Professor Norman Wirzba
In this conversation, Philip spends time with Prof. Norman Wirzba. Prof. Wirzba is the Gilbert T. Rowe Distinguished Professor of Theology and a Senior Fellow, Kenan Institute for Ethics. He is the author of several books including:
The Paradise of God: Renewing Religion in an Ecological Age
Living the Sabbath: Discovering the Rhythms of Rest and Delight
Way of Love: Recovering the Heart of Christianity
He is also the editor of The Essential Agrarian Reader: The Future of Culture, Community, and the Land
In this conversation Philip and Prof. Wirzba discuss the spiritual tradition of ecology, the need for a new accounting and how justice movements are essential to understanding society.
*The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. *
Philip’s Drop:
Brothers and Sisters to Us: U.S Catholic Bishops Pastoral Letter on Racism 1979
Norman’s Drop:
Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer
Homegrown Album by Neil YoungSpecial Guest: Prof. Norman Wirzba.