Coconut Thinking

Benjamin Freud, Ph.D.
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May 5, 2024 • 48min

Clover Hogan: Climate breakdown is the symptom, not the illness

What if we decided to do things differently?I speak with Clover Hogan. Clover is a 24-year-old climate activist and the founding Executive Director of Force of Nature - the youth non-profit turning climate anxiety into action. She has worked alongside the world’s leading authorities on sustainability, consulted within the boardrooms of Fortune 50 companies, and counseled heads of state. Clover has spoken alongside Jane Goodall and Vandana Shiva, and interviewed the 14th Dalai Lama. Her TED talk, 'What to do when climate change feels unstoppable', has been viewed over 2 million times. At 22 she was recognized on the Forbes 30 Under 30 list, and has featured in countless media outlets. And she is a Green School Bali graduate! We discuss: 🥥 How the real problem isn't that youth is climate anxious, it's that people in power are not;🥥 How Departments of Defense might consider defending our rivers, mountains, forests, and air—where preserving the peace becomes about climate;🥥 How social justice and climate justice are the indissociable, and how transforming education has to take this into account.Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com
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Apr 21, 2024 • 51min

Jenny Andersson: The Power of place

How might our stories be as unique as the place from which they unfold?In this episode, I speak with Jenny Andersson. Jenny is the founder of The Really Regenerative Centre. She works as a strategist, facilitator and educator, supporting organizations and communities to create visions for the future they want – together – and to find the energy, will and approaches to sustain long-term change. She also leads the cohort Power of Place, which is collective learning  journey in regenerative placemaking. The aim of the course is to provide a living systems and regenerative thinking approach to how we design our places so that they can become places in which humans can fulfill their potential and true roles and all life thrives in harmony – so that the places that are precious to us become Places For Life. We discuss:🥥 How place provides an entry point into understanding the enormous complexities of systems and the dynamic relationships within them;🥥 How understanding your bioregion is critical to education because it connects us to place, but also appreciates the uniqueness of every system and our place [within/as] it;🥥 The nestedness of all things, or rather, the rhizomatic relationships that we have with all aspects of society and life.Check us out www. coconut-thinking.com
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Mar 31, 2024 • 37min

Ronald Barnett, Ph.D: Higher education is found in criticality, not university

How might we re-think higher education to be about our ability to discern the world and take action, not the diplomas we receive?I speak with Ronald Barnett. Ron has spent a lifetime in higher education as a scholar, institutional leader and manager, researcher, and writer. He is recognized as having introduced and developed the philosophy of higher education as a field in its own right (and he is the President of the recently established Philosophy and Theory of Higher Education Society, and co-editor of two major book series. Since 1990, he has been on the staff of the Education Faculty of University College London, where he is now an Emeritus Professor. Over the years, Ron has written and edited more than 35 books and over 150 papers has been cited in the literature over 25,000 times. There are about 3 million words of his in the public domain. He continues to act as a consultant to individual universities around the world on higher education matters, and also with his work in examining, reviewing, editing, and mentoring. We discuss:🥥 Higher education as a process, not an institution;🥥 The conspiracy that involves all stakeholders in grade inflation and the degradation of standards;🥥 Ethics as the platform from which the critical thinker seeks to make the world a better place.Check us out on www.coconut-thinking.com
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Mar 25, 2024 • 54min

Jennifer D. Klein and Jill Ackers-Clayton: Re-Wilding learning, teaching, and spaces

Jennifer D. Klein, an expert in global education, and Jill Ackers-Clayton discuss rewilding learning spaces, trusting observations over grades, and embodying teaching practices. They emphasize the importance of flexible, collaborative environments that support project-based learning and cultural inclusivity.
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Mar 12, 2024 • 59min

Kevin Bartlett: It is the Why that matters

How might we come together around a WHY rather than a HOW? Might the HOW sort itself out if we share purpose?In this episode, I speak with Kevin Bartlett. Kevin is the Founder of the Common Ground Collaborative. He has held leadership positions in the UK, Tanzania, Namibia, Austria, and Belgium, where he was most recently Director of the International School of Brussels from 2001-2015. Kevin has co-designed accreditation systems for the European Council of International Schools (ECIS), the Council of International Schools (CIS) and the New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC) and is currently engaged with a small team developing ACE, an innovative new accreditation protocol for NEASC. He is a writer and trainer in the field of curriculum design and leadership for learning for the Principals’ Training Center. As a curriculum designer, he was the initiator and early leader of the IB Primary Years Programme. We discuss:🥥 How we might challenge schools to describe what they're doing as a process, in order to avoid getting stuck in outcomes;🥥 How conceptual transfer opens up spaces for learning and action, how goes beyond the the here and now to make a difference in now and then.🥥 How feeling inspires action, not academics; feeling is what connects us, not cognitive understanding (though that can nourish feeling).Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com
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Mar 2, 2024 • 52min

Darren Coxon: AI and the possibile futures

How might AI create both utopian and dystopian futures all at the same time? What does this mean for education and for learning?In this episode, I speak with Darren Coxon. Darren is Founder of CoxonAI, a worldwide strategic advisory specialising in K-12 AI implementation. An educator for 25 years, Darren has most recently managed the operation of schools’ groups, notably Brighton College’s international schools, Forfar Education, and Britus Education, Bahrain, where he was COO. Darren has been at the forefront of educational technology for many years, including leading the first 6th form college in the UK to move to an iPad 1:1 model. He is now a major thought leader on AI in education, has delivered training for COBIS and the National College, as well as more recently delivering keynotes and workshops for HMC, GESS Dubai, and the Cottesmore AI Festival. We discuss:🥥 How generative AI is only the beginning, yet there is nothing new in how we use technology to enhance ourselves, our learning, and our abilities;🥥 The connections between AI and our response to ecological breakdown... maybe this is also an opportunity to connect non-virtually;🥥 How we might prepare learners, no matter their age, to be useful, not in an extractive way, but rather one that helps all life thrive, and this is the re-purposing of schools.Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com.
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Feb 25, 2024 • 42min

David Penberg, Ph.D.: Telling different stories of learning

How might we free ourselves from the bondage of data to tell different stories of learning?In this episode, I speak with David Penberg, Ph.D. David is an urban and international educator, teacher and writer with 40 years of experience. His work is place-based and intergenerational. He supports communities seeking to become more vital, joyous and integrated places of learning. He has held leadership and teaching roles in non-profits, community-based organizations, independent, international and charter schools, and in higher education. His love for learning and interest in people are rooted in a belief in agency and democratic practices. We discuss:🥥 How intentionality can lead to greater well-being and deeper learning;🥥 How to amplify stories of care, ones that connect and inspire us;🥥 How schools can find their place within the community, as places of learning for all generations.Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com
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Feb 15, 2024 • 60min

Michael Bunce: The landscape and weather of learning

How might learning be flow between structure and emergence? How might we measure impact quantitatively and qualitatively?In this episode, I speak with Michael Bunce. Michael is an educator, researcher, and interdisciplinary sound artist, with wide-ranging international experience across education and the arts. As an educational researcher, he specialises in interdisciplinary learning design and innovation, working in leadership, teaching, research, and consultancy roles in schools, arts and community organisations, regulatory and advisory bodies, and universities.You'll want to check out http://www.learningmap.education/ for the visuals. This isn't a light conversation, yet Michael's work provides valuable insights into pedagogy and the cyclical and dynamic nature of learning, going from structured, to semi-structured, to emergent, to embedded forms of learning. Michael challenges us to reconsider how we might conceptualize learning. We discuss:🥥 Emergent learning as an unpredictable process that arises when learners have agency and are the source of knowledge creation;🥥 How content, capacity, and context find different value depending on the learning experience we have and need;🥥 How we can tell different narratives of learning that include stories of impact.Check us out on www.coconut-thinking.com
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Jan 29, 2024 • 49min

Eri Mountbatten-O'Malley, Ph.D.: Flourishing is a dynamic process

What might flourishing look like as collective and individual experiences entangled in environment?Eri Mountbatten-O'Malley is a Senior lecturer in education policy at Bath Spa University and is also a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy. His research is philosophical in nature and helps us to better understand social problems and social research. Eri’s central pedagogical interest is in nurturing critical thinking and complex concept development in students. Eri’s research interests are at the cross-roads between epistemology and ethics. In particular, he is interested in using philosophical skills to better understand social problems. His interests in concepts such as ‘well-being’ and ‘happiness’ led him to focus his PhD research on a conceptual analysis of ‘human flourishing. He has had the opportunity to share his research and read papers at numerous international conferences on the problems of reductionist accounts of normative concepts such as ‘wonder’ and ‘human flourishing’, and will be reading further papers over the coming year on related topics. We discuss:🥥 How flourishing happens where the inner and outer worlds inter/intra-act;🥥 How empiricism requires conceptual understanding that cannot easily be measured; 🥥 The dynamic nature of language as encounter.Check us out on www. coconut-thinking. com
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Jan 14, 2024 • 45min

Cindy Forde: Storytelling to inspire the possible

How might we tell new stories open up our imagination to what is possible?In this episode, I speak with Cindy Forde. Cindy’s career has been dedicated to transforming how we understand and act as human beings towards Earth. She works globally with leaders across sectors in education, communication and sustainability including University of Cambridge and the UN, and believes the biggest impact we can have in making change is how we, as a global community, shape the mind-set of our children. In 2022, her children’s book “Bright New World” came out. Cindy is the founder of Planetari, an organization that sets out a new vision for education, to enable all children to understand our planet as a living system and to have the capacity for creativity and innovation to be able to live successfully here. Prior to  Planetari, Cindy led the Cambridge Science Centre as CEO and the Blue Marine Foundation as Managing Director. We discuss: 🥥 The importance of storytelling for us to imagine and then create possibilities for new a new worlds; 🥥 How healing ourselves (including the planet) begins by listening to one another with open hearts and minds;🥥 How ecological breakdown finds its roots in colonialism and our spirit of extraction.Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com. You'll find our articles and resources.

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