
Coconut Thinking
The Coconut Thinking podcast brings educational provocateurs and practitioners in the regenerative space together to ask: what would it take to create the conditions for all life to thrive? Conversations are as diverse as the guests, but each one participates in the ecosystem, and each one questions the dominant narrative. This is a show for those who are curious about learning, systems, and contributing to the bio-collective—all life that has an interest in the healthfulness of the planet.
Latest episodes

Oct 11, 2020 • 48min
Dwayne Matthews: How Outcomes may end up Replacing Grades
In this episode of the Meaningful Learning podcast, I speak with Dwayne Matthews, one of the broadest and deepest thinkers I've met in a while. In this episode we discuss:Learning Labs as an emerging innovation that allows students to break away from the traditional curriculum in order to explore their strengths and passions while developing authentic productsThe importance outcomes to replace traditional assessment (including grades)The role of technology as a tool, not an end.Dwayne disrupts our traditional thinking about what learning is and how learning is demonstrated and applied in these changing times. Join us for another episode of the Meaningful Learning podcast by Coconut Thinking. We hope you enjoy this episode and please let us have your thoughts and feedback.

Sep 12, 2020 • 49min
Dan Kreiness: Transformational Leadership
In this podcast, I speak with Dr. Dan Kreiness, instructional leader and host of The Leader of Learning podcast. Through his coaching, podcast, blog, and research, Dan is an influencer and expert in transformational leadership as a way to create the contexts for more effective learning and innovation in schools. Throughout our talk, Dan provides strategies and insights into:How transformational leadership is about making sure everyone has the chance to be a leader in a school.How we can adapt as educators to meet student needs.Pushing ourselves to be risk-takers inside and outside the classroomJoin us for another episode of the Meaningful Learning podcast by Coconut Thinking.

Jun 12, 2020 • 48min
Trevor Soponis: Listen to the Students
In this podcast I speak with Dr. Trevor Soponis, Founder and Chief Learning Officer of the Sustainable Learning Projects. Trevor is dedicated to developing project-based learning opportunities addressing the fundamental environmental challenges of our time for students around the world. Trevor has moved my thinking as we discuss:How we should trust students to take charge of their learning and solve the problems of their community.The power of connections to the environment to drive learning, in the future, yes, but also right now.The opportunities COVID and Black Lives Matter may provide to create a better world if we make the right choices.Join us for another episode of the Meaningful Learning podcast by Coconut Thinking, which may be the last one from Saudi Arabia as new adventures await.

May 27, 2020 • 59min
What Have Students Learned During Their School Years and What Do They Value?
Listening to education podcasts, there are many conversations about the student experience that take place between adults, and while there can be so much to learn from pedagogical experts and leaders, it's all too rare that anyone asks the students themselves about their school years.
In this Podcast, I interview 3 recent High School graduates about what they learned the past 4 year, in school and outside, what resonates with them, what they would change in schools, and what how prepared they feel for life after High School.
We often talk about voice and choice for students, so this was a chance to give team space to express themselves. They have much to teach us if we want to design learning experiences that make an impact as well as make connections with the students.
In this episode, we learn (confirm?) that students value choice, relationships, and the space to pursue their interests. No surprise maybe, but these kids have some insightful ideas about how to go about it all.

May 13, 2020 • 36min
Rena Upitis: Learning Through the Arts, the Body, and the Natural World
Dr. Rena Upitis is a Professor of Education at Queen’s University. She has authored or co-authored 10 books and over 100 peer-reviewed articles. Her research and curriculum projects have explored teacher, artist, and student transformation through the arts. Rena herself is a musician, visual artist, and timber-frame carpenter. Oh yeah, and she lives off-grid!In this podcast, Rena talks about how:we learn best when we are emotionally-connected to questions that matter,there are multiple paths for joy in post-secondary life, some children are learning more under lockdown than in schools.Join us for another episode of the Meaningful Learning Podcast by Coconut Thinking.

Apr 29, 2020 • 32min
How Can We Assess Actual Learning?
We look at why:
learning cannot be measured effectively through testing.
the education industry has reduced learning to a score (grade).
measuring the effects of learning as action is what matters most.