
Complementary
A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
Latest episodes

Apr 20, 2025 • 52min
56: Navigation
Anthony and Katie discuss navigation patterns.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Apr 6, 2025 • 41min
55: Design is Decision Making
Anthony and Katie define the process of decision making as it relates to design.Anthony's post: https://x.com/hobdaydesign/status/1904449738084094138Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Mar 16, 2025 • 45min
54: Design vs. Development
Anthony and Katie discuss some differences and similarities between design and development. Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Mar 2, 2025 • 1h 5min
53: Deep Dive on the Conceptual Model Layer with Jamie Mill
Anthony and Katie are joined by Jamie Mill to discuss his post on the elements of product design. Jamie Mill: https://jamiemill.com/Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Feb 16, 2025 • 41min
52: Visual Design Techniques We Love
Anthony and Katie each pick their top 3 most loved design techniques in the spirit of Valentine's Day.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Feb 2, 2025 • 42min
51: Thoughts on the book Do Design: Why beauty is the key to everything by Alan Moore
Anthony and Katie discuss the book Do Design: Why Beauty is the Key to Everything by Alan Moore.
Do Design: https://thedobook.co/products/do-design-why-beauty-is-key-to-everything?Format=Paperback
Anthony's list of short design books: https://www.anthonyhobday.com/blog/20230101.html
Dan Luu: Willingness to look stupid
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Jan 19, 2025 • 54min
50: Starting from Scratch vs. Improving Existing Design
Anthony and Katie discuss what it takes to start designing something from scratch compared to working on an existing product, and the upsides/downsides of both.
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Jan 5, 2025 • 52min
49: Design Folklore with Guy Segal
Katie, Anthony and special guest Guy discuss design folklore: what it is, where it might come from, and how to best use it in your design practices.
Guy Segal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guysegal
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Dec 22, 2024 • 36min
48: Ghosts of Software Past, Present and Future
Anthony and Katie bring on the holiday vibes by discussing the past, present and future of software design. Bah humbug!
New design systems podcast Katie mentioned: On Theme
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Dec 8, 2024 • 45min
47: People We Admire
Designers and developers that have influenced us.
The folks we mentioned:
Stephanie Eckles
Andy Bell
Brad Frost
Elizabeth Goodspeed
Frank Chimero
David Pye
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
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