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Anthony Hobday, Katie Langerman
A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
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Oct 26, 2025 • 54min
68: Interface Design Assets (typefaces, imagery, icons)
Discover the intriguing world of design assets, where the blurry lines between creating and sourcing come into play. Uncover practical strategies for selecting typefaces and colors, and learn about the impact of various component libraries. Explore debates on stock photography versus custom shoots, and dive into the role of AI in illustration. Plus, find out how sound can enhance interface design. It's a captivating journey through the essentials of modern design!

Oct 12, 2025 • 1h 5min
67: Vector vs. Code Based Design Tooling with Andreas Møller
Anthony and Katie are joined by Andreas Møller, co-founder of Nordcraft. Nordcraft aims to bring design and development closer together, and as you can imagine Andreas has a unique perspective on design tools. What happens to "hand-off" when designers can get their ideas 90% there?Find Andreas on BlueskyHosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Sep 28, 2025 • 1h 16min
66: Interface Design Then & Now with Microsoft's First Interface Designer Virginia Howlett
Anthony and Katie are joined by Virginia Howlett, author of Visual Interface Design for Windows and one of the first interface designers at Microsoft. Virginia is also an artist, and her paintings can be found on her website https://www.virginiahowlett.com/. We discuss what it was like being a designer 30 years ago (spoiler: some things haven't changed!), the connection between graphic design and interface design, and what it was like pioneering design decisions that we take for granted today.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Aug 31, 2025 • 1h 13min
65: Listener Q&A
Anthony and Katie answer a few listener questions.Questions asked: https://x.com/hobdaydesign/status/1961014039368110395Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Aug 17, 2025 • 48min
64: Big vs Small Software
Anthony and Katie attempt to define big vs. small software, and then compare the two.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Aug 3, 2025 • 1h 11min
63: Being Intentional About Quality with Lance Willett
In this engaging conversation, Lance Willett, the Chief Quality Officer at Automattic, shares his journey from web designer to quality leader. He dives into the complexities of measuring quality in distributed teams and the importance of fostering a positive feedback culture. Willett emphasizes the balance between craft and care in product development, while discussing innovative practices that enhance collaboration between QA and engineering teams. He also highlights strategies for cultivating a culture of quality that empowers team members and values trust.

Jul 20, 2025 • 53min
62: MacOS Through the Ages
Anthony and Katie discuss the elements of previous MacOS versions that stand out most.Inspired by: https://aresluna.org/frame-of-preferenceHosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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Jul 6, 2025 • 48min
61: Liquid Glass
Dive into the intriguing world of Liquid Glass, where technology meets design innovation. The hosts discuss Apple’s recent software updates and the challenges they create for users. They explore the delicate balance between aesthetics and usability, as well as the impact of rapid tech advancements on user experiences. There's a critical look at Apple's AI strategy amidst a competitive landscape and how urgency in adopting new tech affects decision-making. The conversation brings clarity to the ever-evolving standards of visual design and the design rivalries that shape user expectations.

Jun 22, 2025 • 1h 2min
60: Designing Tools to Support Creativity with Matt Beaudouin-Lafon
Anthony and Katie are joined by HCI PhD candidate Matt Beaudouin-Lafon at UCSD, and discuss how HCI research intersects with industry product design. Links mentioned:Matt's work on Color FieldInk & SwitchTextoshopCreativity Support Tools paper from Ben ShneidermanHosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Jun 2, 2025 • 37min
59: Material 3 Expressive
Anthony and Katie chat about Material 3 Expressive.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman


