
Beyond The Mask: Innovation & Opportunities For CRNAs
A podcast for the CRNA industry. Discussing the important issues that happen both in, and beyond, the operating room. With Sharon Pearce, DNP, CRNA, FAANA, FAAN and Jeremy Stanley, EA, CFP, AIF. Innovations & opportunities for CRNAs & APRNs. Visit our website for more great information https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ and to learn how you can get CE Credit as a CRNA just by listening to the podcast. Don’t miss our special series on CRNA History, CRNA Personal Finance & Retirement, Political Conversations, CRNA Career Issues, and our leadership series called Courage To Lead. Check out new episodes of Beyond The Mask every week with distinguished guests from the CRNA community... #anesthesiology #rn #surgery #healthcare #nurseanesthesiologist #crnaschool #nursing #srnalife #nurselife #nursingstudent #ornurse #nurseanesthesia #crnalife #nursepractitioner #medschool #anesthesialife #scrublife #icunurse #hospital #futurecrna #medical #crna #nurse #anesthesia #srna #nurseanesthetist #nurses #surgical #operatingtheatre #medicalstudent #operatingroomnurse #studentnurse #diversitycrna #ccrn #nursepractitioner #APRN #APRNchat #NPchat #midwife #NP
Latest episodes

May 13, 2020 • 47min
Ep 75: Identifying & Coping with the Mental Health Effects of COVID-19
Workers in the healthcare industry have always prioritized others over self, and that sacrifice has grown even larger during the COVID-19 pandemic. That also means we have even less time for self-care and that’s leading to an increase in anxiety, depression, and other mental health issues. We're joined by Linda Stone, DNP, MSN, CRNA, and Rigo Garcia, CRNA, to talk about what you can do to help someone that might be struggling and find out what resources are available to you on a state and national level.
Here all the contact info you need to access the many resources available:
888-883-8433
https://parkdalecenter.com/
https://parkdalecenter.com/support-the-front
AANA 24/7 Helpline Number: 800-654-5167
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2480
Today's show schedule:
1:55 – We’re joined today by Linda Stone.
3:16 – Rigo Garcia is also on the show with us today.
3:53 – Some background on Garcia and Parkdale.
5:02 – Today we’re talking about coping with the mental affects of COVID.
5:34 – What type of mental health issues is Linda seeing with SRNAs?
7:22 – What is Rigo seeing from CRNAs?
8:17 – Many nurses are facing serious mental health issues.
10:37 – Anxiety and depression has been common in the nursing profession for some time.
11:37 – How many people in our population have substance abuse issues?
13:33 – Why is it important for us to be talking about this right now?
14:42 – What are the signs that someone might be in trouble or needs help?
17:04 – What are some coping strategies you can use?
21:28 – What should you do if you suspect someone is dealing with mental health issues?
23:00 – Here are some of the resources that are available from the AANA.
26:49 – We all need to exercise more empathy as a society.
28:34 – What is Rigo hearing from people on the front lines?
30:03 – If you’re worried how someone might react if you attempt to help them, here’s some guidance.
32:57 – The problems Parkdale is seeing during this health crisis.
36:10 – What resources are available to SRNAs?
38:31 – There will likely be long-term effects from COVID-19.
40:00 – Final message from Linda.
40:37 – Final message from Rigo.

May 7, 2020 • 29min
Ep 74: Engaging New Graduates In Healthcare Advocacy with Angela Mund, CRNA
Healthcare continues to evolve every year with the industry becoming more complex in the process. As changes happen, it’s important for CRNAs to be educated and put in a position to have a voice in local and national policies. Angela Mund, CRNA, has made this the focus of her career and she joins us to discuss ways to get our young professionals involved in advocacy.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2454
Download the CE Credit form here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
1:50 – Angela Mund joins us for the show today.
2:02 – Background on Angela’s 22-year CRNA career.
2:48 – Engaging new graduates in healthcare advocacy is an important topic.
3:40 – What’s the optimal route for nurses to study health policy?
4:56 – Is it best to catch nurses while they’re young?
5:21 – Why is this more important now?
6:05 – How do we make sure our profession is educated about policy?
7:40 – Are there any programs that help foster this interest in politics to younger CRNAs?
9:13 – The AANA mid-year assembly
11:49 – What advice would you give other program directors?
13:19 – The difference in generations within the CRNAs.
16:07 – How did Angela ‘fall into’ a leadership role?
17:20 – How do you address the CRNAs that don’t to be involved in politics?
19:14 – We’re all lobbyists whether you know it or not.
20:50 – If you don’t want to get involved at a national level, what about the local level?
25:26 - Final message from Angela on getting involved in healthcare advocacy.

May 4, 2020 • 43min
Ep 73: Candidate Interviews for 2020 AANA Election
On this special episode of Beyond the Mask, we sat down with many of the candidates running for a position on the 2020-21 AANA Board of Directors. Hear more about their qualifications, their goals, and their vision for the future of CRNAs.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-73:-candidate-interviews-for-2020-aana-election/2460/
Learn more about the candidates from the AANA here: https://www.aana.com/candidates
Today's show schedule:
1:01 - Message from Jeremy Stanley about this episode.
President-elect
2:04 - Heather Rankin, DNP, MBA, CRNA - Alabama
9:23 - Maribeth Massie, PhD, MS, CRNA - New York
Vice President
12:57 - Angela Mund, DNP, CRNA - South Carolina
17:56 - Debra Diaz, DNP, CRNA, APRN, CDR - Florida
Treasurer
23:02 - Sonya Moore, DNP, CRNA, CCRN - Ohio
Director - Region 2
26:17 - Janet Setnor, MSN, CRNA - Virginia
Director - Region 3
28:52 - LTC Peter Strube, DNAP, CRNA, MSNA, AP - Wisconsin
Director - Region 6
32:06 - Jeffrey Molter, MBA, MSN, CRNA - Ohio
Director - Region 7
33:56 - Erik Rauch, DNP, CRNA, NSPM-C - Florida
37:06 - Dru Riddle, PhD, DNP, CRNA, FAAN - Texas

Apr 30, 2020 • 32min
Ep 72: CRNAs Balancing Fitness and a Busy Life with Jamie B and Jamie C
Jamie Bailey, CRNA and Jamie Chamberlain, CRNA are the motivated women running a popular social media fitness account that promotes the balance between working and working out. They joined us on the podcast to share their story, tips for beginners, and how they stay motivated even when they aren’t.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2419
Today's show schedule:
2:00 – We’re excited for this conversation.
2:22 – Welcome in our guests today.
2:55 – Give us some background on yourself and how long you’ve been doing this.
4:29 – How they started working out together.
5:35 – The early morning workout schedule.
6:07 – What time do you go to bed?
6:57 – What’s the key to getting started down this fitness path?
8:18 – Working out in the morning changes your entire mood for the day.
9:14 – What’s the key to staying motivated?
10:27 – Do you hold yourself accountable?
11:18 – Strong Instagram following
13:57 – What eating routine do you have?
18:14 – It’s important to make it fun.
19:07 – What fitness person motivates them?
21:28 – What’s the Sweat App?
22:53 – Do other CRNAs connect with you?
24:13 – What’s the best way to get started if you haven’t worked out in years?
26:09 – Sharon shares a story about a friend who went from smoking to breaking a running record.
27:42 – A final message from the Jamies.

Apr 23, 2020 • 44min
Ep 71: Courage to Lead: Former AANA President Jackie Rowles, MBA, CRNA, ANP-BC, FAAN
Our presidential leadership series rolls along with a visit from Jackie Rowles, MBA, CRNA, ANP-BC, FAAN, who served as AANA President in 2009-10. She brought a background in pain management to the position and led the organization through a transitional period for the board. Not only has she made a significant impact on the profession, but she continues to be a leader at the International level.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2336
Today's rundown:
2:47 – Welcome in our guest Jackie Rowles, who gives us a quick overview of her career.
3:42 – Jackie’s dad was an amazing person and took such an interest in nurse anesthesia.
7:08 – How she had been recruited into a pain management practice before becoming president.
9:12 – In October of 2008, they had their first AANA sponsored pain management education and the timing worked out for her.
10:14 – Pain management has come full circle and has been legitimized and appreciated today. But it took 15 years.
11:11 – The VA Pain Act was signed.
12:49 – What were some of the internal issues she dealt with during her presidency?
15:34 – Why it was different working with John Garde.
17:04 – John Garde made the change of Executive Director smooth but he got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
21:08 – After John’s funeral, Jackie became interim Executive Director during the final weeks of her presidency.
22:33 – Sharon shares her memory of Jackie during that time and the story about a cruise they were taking together.
25:15 – A couple more highlights that Jackie wants to document.
31:13 – The most valuable leadership lessons she learned.
36:05 – What message would you give new CRNAs?
37:25 – If she could pick any other profession, what would it be?
39:07 – Jackie’s final message to everyone.

Apr 16, 2020 • 29min
Ep 70: The Story of CRNAs & an Antitrust Victory with Tafford & Lori Oltz - Part 2
This is the conclusion to the story about Tafford Oltz, CRNA, and his antitrust victory in the late-80s, which came to our attention during a previous podcast. Find out the details to the depositions, how a few of the anesthesiologists were caught lying, and how a couple became expert witnesses. Plus, we’ll find out how it all ended and how much time and money went into the case.
Get part one here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-67-the-story-of-crnas-an-antitrust-victory-with-tafford-lori-oltz-part-1/2348/
Read more about this episode and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2391
Today's show rundown:
2:04 – Pre-trial settlements and the summary judgement
3:08 – Taff and Lori had a lot going on at this time.
4:19 – After the first depositions, Taff got a surprise call.
6:03 – Demands came to fire them.
7:22 – The remaining three anesthesiologists were each deposed but conspired to not tell the whole truth.
8:11 – In the meantime, St. Peter’s Chief of Staff received a subpoena with instructions.
9:15 – Taff tells the story of the last two anesthesiologists and how depositions went down.
10:20 – First settlement was offered but rejected by the Oltzs.
10:41 – Let’s shift to post-trial rulings.
14:42 – How long did it take to close this case and the costs associated?
16:02 – The court ordered a settlement conference and required all 24 hospital board members to attend.
16:45 – Taff details settlement money.
18:30 – Final thoughts on this experience from Taff.
21:15 – How CRNAs can use this case.
23:29 – Final thought from Lori on MDAs and CRNAs

Apr 9, 2020 • 50min
Ep 69: The Story of CRNAs & an Antitrust Victory with Tafford & Lori Oltz - Part 1
This is the story about Tafford Oltz, CRNA, and his antitrust victory in the late-80s, which came to our attention during a previous podcast. When we heard it, we had to talk with Taff and his wife Lori - also a CRNA - to hear how it all happened. It’s a fascinating story that hinges on a manilla folder and you’ll hear all the details that led up to the trial in part one.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2348
Today's rundown:
2:30 – We think this is going to be one of the most interesting podcast we’ve done.
3:50 – Background on the Oltz vs St. Peter’s Community Hospital case.
3:47 – Tafford Oltz and his wife Lori tell us about their background.
4:54 – The couple just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary.
5:15 – How their employment was structured in the 70s and how the relationship with St. Peter’s began.
9:23 – Taff shares one specific patient story he still remembers.
9:56 – The medical landscape in Montana in the mid-70s.
10:31 – When the third MD arrived, he informed the vascular surgeon the use of a CRNA was medical malpractice.
11:46 – Here’s how a typical day looked for Taff with a 100-mile commute.
13:05 – What changed with his situation?
14:45 – The story turns because of a folder. Taff explains.
17:40 – Lori shares details of what was actually written in some of the letters.
19:38 – How was that working relationship after finding out about their plans?
21:52 – How the lawsuit began.
22:45 – What anti-trust litigation is and the three things you need for a case.
27:07 - Many courts aren’t familiar with anti-trust cases. There had only been one prior in Montana.
28:41 - Once they started investigating, they found St. Peter’s market power near 84%.
30:31 - The hospital produced a letter that the anesthesiologists were increasing charges by 10%.
32:58 - How do you choose legal representation for a case like this and what were the costs?
37:15 - How important were other cases at the time?
44:17 - The role Lori played during the trial.
46:07 - To be continued…

Apr 1, 2020 • 34min
Ep 68: CARES Act - What CRNAs Need to Know About Coronavirus Aid
As we continue to devote our attention to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, let’s move our focus to the aid options for CRNAs. On this episode, we’ll break down the Coronavirus Aid Relief and Economic Security (CARES) Act and explain the ways in which you might be able to get some financial relief during these difficult times.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-68-cares-act-what-crnas-need-to-know-about-coronavirus-aid/2376/
Click here to download the PDF with more CARES Act FAQs: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/CRNA-FP-BTM-CARES-Act-FAQs-V4.pdf
Today's rundown:
1:41 – Here’s the topic for this episode.
2:53 – Will CRNAs be able to benefit from the cash payments the stimulus will provide?
4:18 – What options do people have for withdrawing money from retirement accounts?
6:33 – You need to have coronavirus-related reasons for taking advantage of this option.
7:28 – If you’re diagnosed with coronavirus, does it qualify for workers’ comp?
8:16 – Are you still required to take your RMDs this year?
9:38 – What unemployment benefits are available?
12:12 – The loan options available to small business owners.
15:43 – Paycheck protection program could be very beneficial for CRNAs
22:05 – The government is acting quickly and might be rolling more out.
23:14 – Employee retention credit
25:02 - The AANA is also providing relief
27:32 - Let’s all do little things to help each other

Mar 31, 2020 • 33min
Ep 67: Mission for Masks - A Millennial Influencer Making a Difference During COVID-19 Outbreak
When we finally make it through the worst of the COVID-19 outbreak, there will be stories from across the country about heroes on the front lines that saved lives and prevented disasters. Nurses everywhere are battling the virus, and one millenial SRNA is giving them a voice now through an anonymous platform.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2370
See the Mission for Masks form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScqX7mNJv4cZtJTAsyb9ZEf-9VOxlXk9xwVehO8sy0h5XKbbg/viewform
Today's rundown:
2:56 – Welcome in our guest Sonja Schwartzbach, BSN, RN, CCRN
3:45 – Sonja explains what her book is all about.
5:02 – Sharon found out about Sonja just recently and the impact she’s been making.
6:16 – How she started her Instagram account and found a way to use it to build the nursing community.
8:38 – She’s been doing a lot of work involving COVID-19 right in a hard hit area and describes where the biggest needs are.
9:48 – She started the Mission for Masks Google Form template to anonymously collect stories and got a lot of feedback immediately.
11:29 – These strains are happening across the country, not just in CA, NY, and WA.
12:59 – This is giving nurses a platform to speak out and share info from the frontlines.
15:10 – The history of retaliation in the nursing profession.
18:16 – What else has happened since the article came out in the The New York Times?
19:44 – Sonja shares some of the stories she’s hearing around the country right now.
21:33 – ‘There’s a sense of such helplessness.’
23:45 – Hopefully we come out of this and are much more prepared for an outbreak like this.
27:28 – Wrapping up the conversation with a final message from Sonja.

Mar 27, 2020 • 39min
Bonus Episode: Global Update on Nurse Anesthesia and COVID-19
When we talk about COVID-19, our attention goes immediately to our own cities and states, but the US is one of more than 150 countries dealing with the pandemic right now. To get an update on how CRNAs around the globe are being impacted, we talk with IFNA President Jackie Rowles, MBA, CRNA, ANP-BC, FAAN.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2363
Today's rundown:
1:42– Jackie Rowles updates us on some of the headlines globally, which countries are being impacted, and how students are being called to help.
7:06– Jackie details her visit to Brussels before returning back to the US.
8:27– How is everyone holding up around the world?
11:32– We’re all going to deal with a learning curve through this ordeal but we also have to do an in-depth analysis after to become more prepared.
12:40 – Do countries have the personal protective equipment that they need?
13:49– Why was the US so underprepared?
20:28– The bottomline is there’s just so much uncertainty with this and it’s impacting employment.
23:16– Teamwork rises above the politics and we’re all having to come together.
25:26– There’s a demand for healthcare and the elective procedures will come back strong.
28:04– We need to take more precautions when we’re traveling.
32:07 – Jackie’s final message about being blessed to serve the IFNA on behalf of our country.