
Beyond The Mask: Innovation & Opportunities For CRNAs
A podcast for the CRNA industry. Discussing the important issues that happen both in, and beyond, the operating room. With Sharon Pearce, DNP, CRNA, FAANA, FAAN and Jeremy Stanley, EA, CFP, AIF. Innovations & opportunities for CRNAs & APRNs. Visit our website for more great information https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ and to learn how you can get CE Credit as a CRNA just by listening to the podcast. Don’t miss our special series on CRNA History, CRNA Personal Finance & Retirement, Political Conversations, CRNA Career Issues, and our leadership series called Courage To Lead. Check out new episodes of Beyond The Mask every week with distinguished guests from the CRNA community... #anesthesiology #rn #surgery #healthcare #nurseanesthesiologist #crnaschool #nursing #srnalife #nurselife #nursingstudent #ornurse #nurseanesthesia #crnalife #nursepractitioner #medschool #anesthesialife #scrublife #icunurse #hospital #futurecrna #medical #crna #nurse #anesthesia #srna #nurseanesthetist #nurses #surgical #operatingtheatre #medicalstudent #operatingroomnurse #studentnurse #diversitycrna #ccrn #nursepractitioner #APRN #APRNchat #NPchat #midwife #NP
Latest episodes

Sep 9, 2021 • 1h 5min
Ep 145: Why Regulatory Reform Strengthens the CRNA Profession
You might have noticed a surge in articles and stories about the nurse anesthesia profession in recent days and weeks, and that’s because of the push for regulatory reform. Joe Rodriguez, CRNA, has always been one to push for change and advocate for healthcare policy reform, and that’s the position he’s in once again. He joins us on this episode to discuss the changing landscape in the AANA, why leadership needs to be a priority, and explains what reform can mean for the future.
Read more: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-145-why-regulatory-reform-strengthens-the-crna-profession/3007/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
4:51 – Welcome in Joe
7:28 – Why we’re discussing this right now
10:55 – Background on Joe and his practice
14:44 – Diving into politics
18:22 – Building relationships
20:57 – How advocacy has impacted business
25:28 – Being scared of losing
30:35 – Corporate responsibility
34:30 – Time and effort it takes
38:36 – Collaboration is key
41:43 – Value in nurse anesthesiologist
44:44 – Biggest challenge facing CRNAs
48:42 – Message to folks that disagree with him
54:09 – Final thoughts
54:43 – Lightning round

Sep 2, 2021 • 1h 1min
Ep 144: Cultural Humility in the Nurse Anesthesia Profession
The issue of diversity isn’t one that’s limited to certain areas of the country or specific professions. It’s a problem that people everywhere are trying to solve, including the CRNA profession. We want to explore the topic and try to get a better understanding of the barriers and challenges for minorities entering this field so we asked Richard Flowers, CHSE, CRNA, DNP, to join the show to provide us with his insight and experience in this area.
Read more: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-144-cultural-humility-in-the-nurse-anesthesia-profession/3002/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
4:24 – Excited for our guest today
7:27 – Background on Richie
10:06 – Why is this topic important
13:18 – Where does the problem start?
18:17 – Bringing awareness and context to the problem
20:19 – Barriers to diversity
25:05 – Cultural humility vs Cultural competence
26:58 – Programs at Wake Forest
36:04 – Millennials’ view of race
39:17 – Takeaway for CRNA listeners
44:32 – Why are you teaching this?
53:05 – Lightning round

Aug 26, 2021 • 58min
Ep 143: A Complete Look Into the AANA Doctoral Task Force with Sandy Ouellette, CRNA
Back in 2006, the AANA Board of Directors appointed a Doctoral Task Force to explore the future direction in nurse anesthesia education. Sandy Ouellette was chosen to co-chair the task force and help lead those discussions that would shape the future for CRNAs. Today she joins us to provide an inside look at how it was composed, the original purpose and process, and all of the options were on the table.
Get the show notes: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-143-a-complete-look-into-the-aana-doctoral-task-force-with-sandy-ouellette-crna/2983/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
2:07 – Welcome back Sandy
4:37 – Events that led to the task force
6:59 – Move to university-based graduate programs
9:00 – What happened in 2004
11:56 – Summit meeting in 2005 to create the Task Force
13:27 – Start of the Task Force
16:33 – Who was appointed to the Task Force?
20:06 – Responsibilities given to the task force
21:49 – The options they had to decide on
23:59 – Board adopts a position
25:51 – Thoughts behind the options the discussing
32:17 – Option 2 discussed
35:58 – Option 3
38:30 – Option 4
43:36 – Cautionary tales she would share with other directors
49:39 – Lightning Round

Aug 19, 2021 • 46min
Ep 142: Promoting CRNAs & Anesthesia Through Social Media
As CRNAs continue to push for more awareness and understanding of the profession, social media has emerged as one of the great tools for accomplishing this goal. Rhianna Ferial, CRNA, and her husband have completely embraced the medium on multiple platforms to educate, mentor, and inspire. Today she joins the show to talk about the reason she devotes so much time to social media and how it ties into her entrepreneurial drive in conjunction with anesthesia.
Show notes: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-142-promoting-crnas-anesthesia-through-social-media/2978/
Connect with Rhianna: https://www.instagram.com/rhiannaferial/?hl=en
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
3:32 – Welcome in Rhianna
6:03 – Background on her nursing career
8:07 – Importance and influence of social media
9:50 – Becoming aware of the CRNA profession
10:44 – How she got started in social media and what platforms she uses
13:16 – Pursuits outside of anesthesia
14:42 – Real estate investing
17:40 – Goal to become a millionaire
22:51 – When do you want to retire from anesthesia?
25:52 – Working per diem
27:32 – What’s the ultimate objective
31:05 – Her Financial Freedom business
34:19 – Why the passion for finance?
37:23 – Final thoughts
39:35 – Lightning round

Aug 12, 2021 • 40min
Ep 141: 5 Things CRNAs Must Know About Decumulation to Retire Successfully
When it comes to saving and investing during your working career, CRNAs can find plenty of help and resources to get them to retirement. Unfortunately, there’s not nearly as much support to help you manage that nest egg and spend down your assets. This period, known as decumulation, is just as important as anything you do with your finances so let’s make sure you know what it takes to retire successfully.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-141-5-things-crnas-must-know-about-decumulation-to-retire-successfully/2972/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
4:00 – The retirement topic we’re covering today
6:24 – Preparing for longevity
9:17 – Finding the right type of support for retirement
12:23 – Fear of spending money is a real thing
15:42 – Risks in retirement
18:43 – Taxes play such an important role.
22:08 – Jeremy shares a client story
24:07 – Replacing your paycheck
27:20 – What age should you start planning?
30:07 – Final thoughts from Jeremy
31:43 – Lightning Round

Aug 5, 2021 • 59min
Ep 140: Free Open Access MEDucation: Leveraging Social Media & Podcasting for Learning
The beauty of technology is that information is accessible to anyone, anywhere, and the ability to learn is right there at our fingertips. Thanks to FOAM (Free Open Access Meducation), CRNAs are able to pull from all types of resources to continue education and improve their anesthesia skills. To help us understand what is available and how these digital platforms are giving content creators an outlet, we’ve asked Jon Lowrance, MSN, CRNA, the producer at Anesthesia Guidebook, to join us on the show.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-140-free-open-access-meducation-leveraging-social-media-podcasting-for-learning/2967/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
2:49 – Background on Jon
9:06 – The educational role of podcasting
14:50 – Asynchronous learning programs
18:05 – Peer review standards
24:03 – Addressing outdated content
28:52 – Charging for content
37:29 – Teaching about CRNA history
40:29 – Learning by audio
47:40 – Closing thoughts
50:47 – Lightning round

Jul 29, 2021 • 1h 11min
Ep 139: Nursing, Politics, and the Future of Our Country with Ernest Grant, PhD, RN, FAAN
Many issues are facing our country right now and nurses will play a key role in helping communities move forward. As the most trusted profession, nursing should embrace that position and that’s what many leaders are trying to do. ANA President Ernest Grant, PhD, RN, FAAN, joins us on this episode to share his view on what he feels are priorities right now, how nurses can impact the future, and why representation is still crucial for the profession.
Read more: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-139-nursing-politics-and-the-future-of-our-country-with-ernest-grant-phd-rn-faan/2960/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
3:03 – Excited to talk with Dr. Ernest Grant
3:54 – Bringing more sectors of nursing together
5:45 – Background on our guest
8:25 – How Sharon and Ernest met
11:45 – Why is this so important right now?
17:01 – Nursing is the most trusted profession
21:43 – Vaccinations
28:52 – AANA Newsletter
30:48 – Health and policy
40:22 – Financial situation for nurses
47:38 – Future of nursing report
54:31 – Bringing more people into the profession
1:03:33 – Lightning round

Jul 22, 2021 • 41min
Ep 138: The Highs & Lows of Sharon’s Journey to a DNP
Before we share anything, please note that this is an emotional episode. Not only was the journey to a DNP a long and arduous one for Sharon with plenty of highs and lows that we’ll discuss, but we begin the show with heartbreaking news about Sharon’s granddaughter, Emma Kate. It’s tough to discuss but it’s important for the healing process and we appreciate everyone for the support along the way.
Read more: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-138-the-highs-lows-of-sharons-journey-to-a-dnp/2951/
Details on the upcoming walk to remember Emma Kate: https://grouprev.com/HALOSWALK2021-jillian-pechacek?fbclid=IwAR0h0VNcATrqUTMrJ7xHQqP4YS2kxgoSo7kmIac_BHxsYeiLW-__iuMoSHQ#.YPRcAR48eeA.facebook
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
2:25 – Plan for the show today
3:32 – Heartbreaking loss for Sharon’s family
8:39 – Sharon’s journey to get her DNP
13:01 – The why behind her decision
15:28 – Pros and cons of distance learning
18:34 – Why should you go back to get your DNP?
22:54 – Words of wisdom
26:57 – Getting overwhelmed through this journey
32:46 – Looking back on the process
35:45 – Final message to the younger CRNAs

Jul 15, 2021 • 48min
Ep 137: Balancing Motherhood with a CRNA Career with the Smart Mamas (Re-release)
On this episode, we’re going back to a previous conversation with the three women behind the Scrub Caps & Sippy Cups podcast. This trio does great work for mothers in our profession so we wanted to spotlight them once again on the show. Plus, a lot has changed for them since we talked in early 2020.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-137-balancing-motherhood-with-a-crna-career-with-the-smart-mamas-re-release/2946/
About our guests: https://www.facebook.com/heysmartmommas/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
0:50 – Why we’re revisiting this conversation
5:23 – Welcome our guests
6:18 – Background on Laci
7:19 – Background on Ellen
8:23 – Background on Crystal
10:24 – Why this topic is so important
11:52 – Connecting through social media
16:24 – Misconceptions about parenting
18:37 – Breastfeeding
25:58 – Keeping marriage intact
34:56 – What do you do for yourself?
38:18 – Maintaining your own identity
40:45 – How to connect with them
41:25 – Final Thoughts

Jul 8, 2021 • 1h 9min
Ep 136: APEX Live Anesthesia Helping CRNAs Prepare for CPC Assessment
Testing is never a relaxing experience and that’s why the upcoming CPC Assessment has created some anxiety for CRNAs. Thankfully, the duo behind APEX Live is working hard to help educate and prepare CRNAs through events, podcasting, and teaching. Jeremy Heiner EdD, CRNA and Sass Elisha EdD, CRNA, FAAN join us today to tell us more about the work they’re doing and then take us through some sample questions that might be found on the assessment.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-136-apex-live-anesthesia-helping-crnas-prepare-for-cpc-assessment/2942/
About our guests: https://www.apexlive.com/podcast
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
3:45 – Introducing our guests today
5:52 – Background on Jeremy and Sass, and the podcast
9:48 – Educational goals for the podcast
14:26 – Instilling confidence in testing
19:38 – Using humor
25:37 – APEX Live events
31:22 – How they develop their questions
33:44 – Sample questions
37:30 – The four domains on the test
38:08 – Test question
42:33 – Crisis checklist
50:28 – Test question
57:42 – Ways to connect with Jeremy and Sass
1:00:00 – Lightning round