

The Hotshot Wake Up
The Hotshot Wake Up
A podcast and newsletter by firefighters about wildfire and the world. Crew Supervisor and Ex Hotshot overhead.
Call it like it is.
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Dec 8, 2023 • 1h 6min
The Ever Changing Story of Wildfire Has Confused the Public. Let's Get Back On Track.
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I welcome the Director and Producer of Hotshot Movie Gabriel Mann. Gabriel recently attended the Red Sky Summit in California and describes the vibe and vision these companies have for the wildfire industry.
Our conversation hopes to bring clarity to the public about what the needs are in the wildfire world, how folks can work together to accomplish that, and the realities and shortcomings we believe some are missing.
The overall goal should include the protection of our country’s valuable assets, which are our public parks and forests, and supporting those on the ground doing the work. Our lively conversation looks to bridge the gap between Big Tech, the wildfire operators, and the public.
Enjoy.
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Dec 2, 2023 • 1h 2min
Prescribed Fire is Hazardous and Can Be Deadly. The Argument for Hazard Pay on RX Fire. Also, another entrapment in California and Hotshot injured in Tennessee.
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I lay out the case for hazard pay on Prescribed fire. It could actually save money, increase retention, and, one could argue, make the RX environment more safe.
In the last few weeks, there have been major and severe injuries on prescribed burns around the Nation.
I cover the fatalities that have occurred in RX burns in the last few years as well.
I cover the Hotshot injured in Tennessee.
There was another entrapment in California. We discuss the report on this incident, why it happened, and how it went down.
Plus more.
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Nov 26, 2023 • 1h 27min
A Conversation With World Renowned Knife Maker Bill Harsey. Bill's knives are known around the world by special forces and high level operators.
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Today, I welcome Bill Harsey, known worldwide for his award-winning knife designs for both special forces and the common man. Bill is a fourth-generation logger whose family moved to Oregon to make their way during the Great Depression. We also discuss his work in the Bull Run watershed, where a large wildfire occurred this fall. This area supplies the drinking water for all of Portland, Oregon.
Bill worked in the steep mountains of Oregon with heavy equipment before finding an interest in knife making after taking his dad’s flat file and trying to make a knife out of it as a boy. Bill has gone on to become one of Earth’s best knife designers used by special operators around the world.
We gave away one of Bill’s knives last year and will be doing another giveaway for paid subscribers this next week. Thanks to Bill and Spartan Blades for donating one of these incredible knives to our community. Bill has been a longtime supporter of the show and wildland firefighters nationwide.
Bill’s knives can be found in:
United States Army JFK Special Warfare Museum, Ft. Bragg, NC.
The US Army Airborne and Special Operations Museum, Fayetteville, NC.
The Official United States Navy UDT SEAL Museum, Ft. Pierce, Florida.
The International Knife Museum in Seki Japan.

Nov 16, 2023 • 1h 6min
Canada's Record Wildfire Season. A Chat With Doug Cote. Doug is a former Yukon Smoke Jumper and current Wildfire Risk Management Specialist for Canada.
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I have on Doug Cote to discuss the record-breaking wildfire season in Canada. Doug has a long and extensive wildfire career, including smoke jumping in the Yukon, and now his career is focused on prescribed fire and aerial ignition work in the Northern Boreal forests and working with Indigenous communities to bolster burn programs.
We discuss the wild year that Canada had and what that looked like from the ground. We cover the tactics used up North and the reality of leaving fires over a million acres unstaffed or with limited staffing. We cover the ever-growing cross-border resource sharing that took place with Hotshot crews and teams, and like myself, Doug sees this as an increasing trend.
We also talk about the unprecedented line-of-duty deaths that took place this year in Canada and how they can learn and understand why these took place.
A fascinating conversation.
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Nov 5, 2023 • 1h 22min
A Conversation with Wildfire Commissioner and Firefighter Kelly Martin.
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I welcome Kelly Martin to discuss the new Wildland Fire Mitigation and Management Commission’s report to Congress, everything happening with the workforce, legislation, and beneficial fire.
The Presidential Wildland Fire Mitigation and Management Commission was established in 2022. Kelly was one of 500 applicants who applied to voluntarily serve on this 50-member Commission. She was selected to fill the primary seat representing Wildland Firefighters.
Kelly’s 35-year federal career as a wildland firefighter provided invaluable technical and subject matter expertise to the Commission, ultimately obtaining unanimous consensus on comprehensive workforce reforms (see recommendations 84-103 in the Commission report).
Kelly is also the co-founder and past President of Grassroots Wildland Firefighters, a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing the public, agency officials, and members of congress with real life lived experiences to promote urgent modernization reforms for the federal wildland fire program. Her organization provides education and advocates on behalf of thousands of federal wildland firefighters.
She is also a current Burn Boss for The Nature Conservancy (TNC), mentoring and coaching other TNC employees and nonprofit organizations to help them become more skilled and proficient in applying “good fire” on the landscape. Her current work includes providing leadership for the
Women-in-Fire Prescribed Fire Training Exchange (WTREX) and other Training Exchanges (TREX) events throughout the US.
Beginning in 2024 Kelly will begin her 2 year tenure as President of the International Association of Wildland Fire, a group she has been working with for close to 10 years. IAWF is dedicated to uniting the global wildland fire community in sharing knowledge and expertise through conferences, workshops, and creating position papers relative to contemporary wildland fire issues.
Kelly has extensive experience as a field practitioner serving as a Complex Burn Boss; Fire Behavior Analyst; Operations Section Chief and has served on Type 1 and Type 2 Interagency Incident Management Teams for over 20 years. Her capstone career promotion was becoming and the first female and one of the longest-serving Chief Fire and Aviation Management Officer at Yosemite National Park from 2006-2019.
It’s a fantastic conversation.

Oct 16, 2023 • 1h 11min
Relationships and Wildfire: A Chat with Family and Relationship Counselor Destiny Morris. Also, the different struggles from both women and men in the industry.
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We discuss solutions to combat depression and relationship struggles, communication tips for both families and first responders, and ways to transition back to home life successfully.
We also have a conversation about the very different struggles women and men have when working in this industry and for their loved ones. When it comes to guys and gals, the contrasting struggles will surprise many, even those who are first responders. We discuss how to manage these distinct issues and the obstacles they create at home and in relationships.
At the end of the episode, Destiny takes us through a breathing exercise and short meditation that you can use in your personal life.
I hope you all enjoy it.

Oct 14, 2023 • 40min
"A New Workforce," The New Catch Phrase. Fire AI Tech Companies Warn Forests Only Have 10 Years Left... Also, a wage funding update and thoughts on the current situation.
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After the Wildfire Commission Report, Wildfire Tech Companies started calling for a “new workforce.”
What does that mean, and is it needed? With 3 years of horrible retention and recruitment, why the shift now?
AI wildfire data companies say our forests only have 10 years until they go away. Overblown predictions?
Wildfire wage funding update.
As predicted, war will likely save this Bill.
Full operational update.
Plus more.
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Oct 6, 2023 • 1h 15min
Mental Health in the Off-Season: A Conversation with Dani Shedden of Close the Gap Wellness. Tips for wildland firefighters, first responders, and their loved ones.
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I am happy to have Mental Health Counselor and Educator Dani Shedden. We discuss the process of reintegrating back into the “real world” after a wildfire season, bad habits to recognize, and solutions for first responders who are struggling.
We also talk about the family side of things and what friends and loved ones can expect, the struggles they have, and communication methods to help their firefighters through this process. It is a great conversation that’s an excellent listen for any first responder and their friends and family.
THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP - Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. It allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all the content we provide. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, entered into our giveaways, recipes, and more.

Sep 30, 2023 • 52min
Senators Make a Last Stand For Firefighter Pay. Is Elon Musk Getting Into the Wildfire Industry? The looming shutdown and the Big Tech\Miliary marriage in wildfire.
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Prescribed burns are being rushed and crews shutting down early heading into a potential Government Shutdown.
Congress members make a last stand to try and pass the wildland firefighter pay legislation.
Original investors in Tesla, SpaceX, and SolarCity provide funding for AI autonomous helicopter systems.
Is Elon about to jump head-first into the wildfire industry?
Lockheed Martin joins forces with CalFire in a marriage of the military-industrial complex and wildfire.
Congressman Tom McClintock pushes forward legislation to put out fires immediately and limit managed fires across the country.
Full operational update.
Plus more.
THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP - Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. It allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all the content we provide. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, entered into our giveaways, recipes, and more.

Sep 24, 2023 • 59min
Governments Go All In On AI, And Abandon The Wildfire Workforce. Multiple Trees Strike Firefighters in the PNW. Also, California begs insurance companies to come back.
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Full operation update. Fires start to wind down around the nation. Canada continues to be active.
I cover the multiple tree strikes that recently happened in the Pacific Northwest on wildfires. One firefighter was struck in the head, and another was struck while escaping the falling tree, striking their hip.
Governments decide to go all in on AI systems while abandoning their workforce. Canada welcomes new AI swarm systems and brings in Microsoft to solve detection problems.
Microsoft says Canada and the U.S. can save money with their AI detection systems by replacing humans…
California begs insurance companies to come back to the State.
They sweeten the deal by allowing them to increase rates up to 200% in some rural communities and seemingly allowing them to use Wild Fire Risk Maps to set rates… Something I predicted two years ago.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
Plus more.
THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP - Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. It allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all the content we provide. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, entered into our giveaways, recipes, and more.
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