

Our Curious Amalgam
American Bar Association
Our Curious Amalgam explores topics in antitrust, competition, consumer protection, data protection, and privacy law around the world with leading experts in those areas. It is an amalgam because it is a group of diverse topics all in one place. It is curious because it gets the experts and asks them in-depth questions.
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Mar 25, 2024 • 44min
#266 Is It Time To Burst the Bubble? Antitrust Law in the Age of the Polycrisis
The antitrust law bubble, particularly in the U.S., has in recent years focussed on the mantra of promoting efficiency above all else. In the age of the global polycrisis and increasing corporate concentration and power in numerous sectors, should this bubble be popped? Dr Cristina Caffarra, leading competition economist, joins Barry Nigro and Matthew Hall to discuss the wider issues antitrust and competition law enforcement should be considering, which was the focus of a January 2024 Brussels conference described as the "Anti-Davos" and "Woodstock of Antitrust". Listen to this episode to learn more about the "Antitrust, Regulation, and the Next World Order" conference led by Dr Caffarra, why antitrust law should be taking a wider approach than efficiency and narrow consumer welfare and the links with trade and industrial policy. With special guest: Cristina Caffarra, University College London, CEPR Competition RPN Related Links: Cristina Caffarra article in CPI Columns Europe February 2024 (source: CPI) Cristina Caffarra article part 1 in VoxEU (CEPR) January 2024 (source: VoxEU) Cristina Caffarra article part 2 in VoxEU (CEPR) January 2024 (source: VoxEU) Cristina Caffarra article in VoxEU (CEPR) March 2024 (source: VoxEU) Angus Deaton article "Rethinking My Economics" March 2024 (source: IMF) Politico article on Antitrust, Regulation, and the Next World Order conference February 2024 (source: Politico) The Capitol Forum article on Antitrust, Regulation, and the Next World Order conference February 2024 (source: The Capitol Forum) Cristina Caffarra speaking notes Antitrust, Regulation, and the Next World Order conference January 2024 (source: ofthewedge.com) Hosted by: Barry Nigro, Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP and Matthew Hall, McGuireWoods London LLP

Mar 18, 2024 • 44min
#265 Can I Avoid Targeted Ads? The EU Rules on Pay or OK
Many companies already use or are introducing "pay or OK" models for targeted ads on the Internet. What legal issues does this raise in the EU? Frithjof Michaelsen, Digital Policy Officer at UFC-Que Choisir, the French Federation of Consumer Associations, joins Matthew Reynolds and Matthew Hall to discuss Meta's introduction of pay or OK, otherwise known as pay or consent, on its Facebook and Instagram platforms in the EU, the relevant law and the implications of this for the wider adtech ecosystem. Listen to this episode to learn more about the application of EU consumer and data protection rules and the EU Digital Markets Act to this model. With special guest: Frithjof Michaelsen, Digital Policy Officer, UFC-Que Choisir (France) Related Links: "Choose to lose with Meta" document; BEUC’s assessment of Meta’s subscription model (pay or OK) from a consumer law perspective (source: European Data Protection Board) BEUC "Choose to Lose With Meta" webpage (source: European Data Protection Board) BEUC Press Release "Consumer groups file complaint against Meta’s unfair pay-or-consent model" (source: European Data Protection Board) Timeline of Meta and GDPR (source: European Data Protection Board) NOYB GDPR Withdrawal Complaint (source: noyb.eu) NOYB GDPR Pay or OK Complaint (source: noyb.eu) NOYB Press Release "Instagram & Facebook: 28 civil rights organisations urge European DPAs to reject “Pay or Okay” in pending case over € 250 “privacy fee”" (source: noyb.eu) EU Digital Markets Act (source: European Commission) BEUC and EU consumer group complaints against Meta under EU GDPR February 2024 Hosted by: Matthew Reynolds, Huth Reynolds LLP and Matthew Hall, McGuireWoods London LLP

Mar 11, 2024 • 28min
#264 What’s Wrong With Having Lots of Patents? Patent Thickets and Antitrust Law
It's often said that patent protection rewards innovation and benefits consumers. But are there competition law issues with having "too many" patents? Kate Swisher, an antitrust litigator at White & Case, joins co-hosts Alicia Downey and Lijun Zhang to discuss the tension between patent law and antitrust law in the context of so-called "patent thickets," particularly in the pharmaceutical industry. Listen to this episode to learn how courts are treating claims that obtaining a large number of patents for a single product may be an anticompetitive practice. With special guest: Kate Swisher, White & Case LLP Hosted by: Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and Lijun Zhang, Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP

Mar 4, 2024 • 33min
#263 What’s the Role of a Magistrate Judge? Conversation With Judge Lindsey Vaala
The U.S. federal district courts have magistrate judges who are appointed to assist the district court judges and generally oversee first appearances of criminal defendants, set bail, and conduct other administrative duties. But is the role of a magistrate judge different across districts? In a district like Eastern District of Virginia where the trial docket is so fast that it earned the nickname as a “Rocket Docket,” a magistrate judge can make important decisions and have a great impact on the cases there. Judge Lindsey Vaala, the first magistrate judge interviewed by our program, and a long-time active member of the ABA Antitrust Law Section, speaks with Anora Wang and Melissa Maxman on her previous career as an antitrust litigator, her path to the bench, and to the extent that she can speak, her views on current antitrust issues. With special guest: The Honorable Judge Lindsey R. Vaala, Magistrate Judge, U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia Related Links: Magistrate Judge Lindsey Vaala Appointment Announcement Nov 2022 Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP and Melissa H. Maxman, Cohen & Gresser LLP

Feb 26, 2024 • 29min
#262 What’s Up With U.S. Merger Remedies?
The US antitrust agencies' approach to merger remedies has undergone a significant change under the Biden administration. Remedies are increasingly disfavored. In this episode, Dan Ducore, former Assistant Director of the Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Competition Compliance Division, joins Barry Nigro and Jeny Maier to discuss the growing skepticism towards merger remedies by the US antitrust authorities. Listen to this episode to learn more about whether merger remedies remain a viable option in the US and, if so, how parties should approach them given the government’s current hostility toward remedies. With special guest: Dan Ducore, former Assistant Director of the Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Competition Compliance Division Related Links: Daniel P. Ducore, "Negotiating Remedies: A Perspective from Various Agencies," Global Competition Review (October 2023) Hosted by: Barry Nigro, Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP and Jeny Maier, Axinn, Veltrop & Harkrider LLP

Feb 19, 2024 • 22min
#261 Can Demanding Price Parity Harm Competition? The MFN Paradox
When are MFNs good and when are they bad? A "most favored nation" (MFN) price requirement ensures that a buyer receives the lowest price that a seller is offering to other buyers. Under U.S. antitrust law, such MFNs are typically viewed as a procompetitive outcome of price bargaining between parties. But recently, the use of MFNs by Amazon's internet retailing platform has been challenged as an anticompetitive business practice. In this episode, Alicia Downey and Barry Nigro talk to economist Tasneem Chipty about the potential competition concerns raised by MFNs generally and platform MFNs specifically. Listen and learn in what circumstances most favored nation requirements might raise antitrust red flags. With special guest: Tasneem Chipty, Managing Principal, Chipty Economics Related Links: Tasneem Chipty, "Platform MFNs: Can Asking for the Lowest Price Discourage Competition?", Pricing Conduct Committee Newsletter (ABA Antitrust Law Section Jan. 9. 2024) Hosted by: Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and Barry Nigro, Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP

Feb 12, 2024 • 36min
#260 What’s The (Data Protection) Difference? An EU/U.S. Comparison of Personal Data Protection Issues In Merger and Behavioural Investigations
Large amounts of information are collected during merger control and behavioural competition law investigations. What are the personal data protection issues raised? Dan Rupprecht, Director for Europe of iDiscovery Solutions, joins Aaron Yeater and Matthew Hall to discuss the differences between these two types of investigations, why and how the EU/UK and U.S. approaches differ in this area, the technology that is used and the future. Listen to this episode to learn more about protection of personal data when working in these areas. With special guest: Dan Rupprecht, Director for Europe, iDiscovery Solutions Related Links: European Commission data protection (GDPR) UK GDPR Hosted by: Aaron Yeater, Analysis Group, Inc. and Matthew Hall, McGuireWoods London LLP

Feb 5, 2024 • 25min
#259 Is Competition in Canada in Decline?
In recent years competition agencies in several jurisdictions have undertaken studies to assess the state of competition within their borders. Canada now joins the list. In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Barry Nigro speak with economist Matthew Osborne about the Canadian Bureau of Competition’s 2023 report, “Competition in Canada from 2000 to 2020: An Economy at a Crossroads.” Listen to this episode to learn about how Matthew and his team analyzed competition across the Canadian economy during a critical decade. With special guest: Matthew Osborne, University of Toronto Mississauga Related Links: Competition in Canada from 2000 to 2020: An Economy at a Crossroads More about Matthew Osborne Hosted by: Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and Barry Nigro, Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP

Jan 29, 2024 • 32min
#258 Will the UK CMA Find Out About My Deal? The Operation of the CMA’s Mergers Intelligence Committee in Practice
The UK merger control system provides for voluntary filings but that does not mean parties to deals can hide from the regulator, the UK Competition and Markets Authority (CMA). But how does the CMA's Mergers Intelligence Committee (MIC) identify deals to ask about and review the informal briefing papers which can be submitted by parties hoping to avoid a full filing? Eleni Gouliou, a Director of Mergers at the CMA, who has chaired MIC, joins Anora Wang and Matthew Hall to discuss the work of MIC and its place within the CMA's merger review processes. Listen to this episode to learn more about this area of the CMA's merger control work, which is increasingly important now that the UK is outside the EU merger control regime. With special guest: Eleni Gouliou, Director of Mergers, UK Competition and Markets Authority Related Links: UK Competition and Markets Authority "Guidance on the CMA's mergers intelligence function" (December 2020) UK Competition and Markets Authority merger inquiry outcome statistics Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP and Matthew Hall, McGuireWoods London LLP

Jan 22, 2024 • 30min
#257 Throwing the Book at Orange Book Listings? The FTC’s Views on the Antitrust Implications of Listing Patents in the Orange Book
The interplay between patent law and competition law has been a consistent focus for the antitrust agencies over the years, most notably in the pharmaceutical sector between brand and generic drugs. But will the FTC take a new approach to dealing with branded drug company patents listed in the FDA's "Orange Book"? Mika Ikeda, Competition Counsel at Johnson & Johnson joins Jaclyn Phillips and Jeny Maier to discuss the FTC's historical interest in Orange Book listings and what actions the agency may take in the future. Listen to this episode to learn more about FTC policy related to competition in drug markets, and why the "Orange Book" is orange! With special guest: Mika Ikeda, Senior Counsel, Competition Law, Johnson & Johnson Related Links: Federal Trade Commission Statement Concerning Brand Drug Manufacturers’ Improper Listing of Patents in the Orange Book (Sept. 14, 2023) Hosted by: Jaclyn Phillips, White & Case LLP and Jeny Maier, Axinn, Veltrop & Harkrider LLP