

Our Curious Amalgam
American Bar Association
Our Curious Amalgam explores topics in antitrust, competition, consumer protection, data protection, and privacy law around the world with leading experts in those areas. It is an amalgam because it is a group of diverse topics all in one place. It is curious because it gets the experts and asks them in-depth questions.
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Mar 7, 2022 • 38min
#158 What’s So Special About Hospitals? An Examination and Look Into Hospital Merger Review and Analysis
It's unusual for a year to go by without the FTC challenging at least one contemplated or consummated hospital merger. What makes this area so ripe for antitrust scrutiny? Monica Noether, an economic expert in this area, joins Christina Ma and Elyse Dorsey to discuss this critical area of agency enforcement. Listen to this episode to hear more about how the agencies consider the costs—and potential benefits—of hospital mergers, and how changes driven by the COVID-19 pandemic, technological developments, and more are impacting this analysis. Related Links: Hospital Merger Benefits: Views from Hospital Leaders and Econometric Analysis by Monica Noether, Ph.D. and Sean May, Ph.D. Hospital Merger Benefits: Views from Hospital Leaders and Econometric Analysis - American Hospital Association Hosted by: Elyse Dorsey and Christina Ma

Feb 28, 2022 • 38min
#157 Do We Need a Check? Big Tech and the American Innovation and Choice Online Act
Big Tech is in the news as numerous federal and state lawsuits against “the big four” (aka GAFA), Microsoft and TikTok, are pending. But is more regulation needed? Luther Lowe of Yelp speaks with Melissa Maxman and Christina Ma to discuss the benefits of The American Innovation and Choice Online Act, S. 2992. Listen to this episode of Our Curious Amalgam to learn more about this bill and why proponents claim that comprehensive antitrust legislation is needed to restore competition and ensure small business owners have an opportunity to succeed. Hosted by: Melissa Maxman, Partner, Cohen & Gresser LLP, and Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

Feb 28, 2022 • 34min
#156 Can They Help Themselves? Self-Preferencing at Large Platforms.
There has been a lot of discussion recently about whether large platforms can favor themselves over potential competitors. Some of these discussions surround high-profile pending legislation seeking to rein in the self-preferencing tactics and policies of some of the biggest technology platforms in the world. But is it a good idea to eliminate self-preferencing by large platforms? Adam Kovacevich, founder and CEO of the Chamber of Progress, joins John Roberti and Sarah Zhang to discuss whether it is necessary to address self-preferencing behavior by big tech platforms. Listen to this episode to learn more from an expert who has thought extensively about these issues. Related Links: Chamber of Progress Hosted by: John Roberti and Sarah Zhang

Feb 21, 2022 • 31min
#155 Will It Make Any Difference? Government Cases Against Google and Remedies Here and Abroad
Competition enforcement authorities all over the world are bringing cases and enforcing new rules against Google, and as different jurisdictions impose widely different penalties and restrictions, it’s debatable whether those remedies have had the desired effects. So what are the best ways to address the perceived abuses of Google's dominance? Co-hosts Melissa Maxman and Alicia Downey get the answers from Megan Gray, the former General Counsel of one of Google’s leading competitors, DuckDuckGo. Listen to this episode to learn more about the challenges that governments face in trying to address the competition and privacy issues raised by Google's dominance among search engines. Related Links: UK Competition and Markets Authority, “Online platforms and digital advertising,” Market Study Final Report (July 1, 2020) Commission Decision of 18.7.2018 relating to a proceeding under Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (the Treaty) and Article 54 of the EEA Agreement (AT.40099 – Google Android) U.S. et al. v. Google LLC, Amended Complaint (Jan. 15, 2021) State of Colorado et al. v. Google LLC, Revised Partially Redacted Complaint (Jan. 4, 2021) Hosted by: Melissa Maxman, Partner, Cohen & Gresser LLP, and Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC

Feb 14, 2022 • 40min
#154 Should I Have Been Paid? Facebook Faces Class Claim From UK Users
Facebook is the leading social network in the UK, as elsewhere. But has it unfairly treated its UK users? Dr. Liza Lovdahl Gormsen, competition law academic and practitioner, joins Matthew Hall and John Roberti to discuss her class action claim in the UK which seeks multi-billion pound damages from Facebook/Meta. Listen to this episode to learn more about the history and basis of the claim, what is alleged, how it is funded, and what it is like to be a class representative. Related Links: Legal team press release UK Facebook claim website Dr Gormsen profile Facebook Germany decision (Federal Cartel Office) Hosted by: Matthew Hall, partner, McGuireWoods London LLP, London and John Roberti, partner, Allen & Overy, Washington DC

Feb 7, 2022 • 25min
#153 Is Consumer Welfare the Right Policy for Antitrust Enforcement? Unpacking the Debate
Antitrust enforcers, academics, and politicians are embroiled in a debate over whether the consumer welfare standard is the right policy for antitrust enforcement in the U.S. What are they fighting about and why does it matter? In this episode, we talk to Fiona Schaeffer and Ilana Kattan, two prominent antitrust practitioners and leaders in the ABA Antitrust Law Section, about what the consumer welfare standard is, and why it is the subject of intense debate in the US and globally. Listen to this episode to learn how the outcome of that debate will have significant ramifications for business conduct, mergers, and the U.S. economy as a whole. Related Links: Watch the Antitrust Law Section's "hot tub" debate about the consumer welfare standard! Livestream at 12 noon Eastern Standard Time on February 10, 2022, and on demand at the Section's YouTube channel. Hosted by: Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and Sergei Zaslavsky, Partner, O'Melveny & Myers LLP

Jan 31, 2022 • 47min
#152 Should Antitrust Be Used as an Anti-Inflation Tool? Live Recording of Debate at George Mason Law School
The U.S. economy has seen a consumer price index increase of 7% in 2021, the largest 12-month gain since June 1982. But should antitrust be used as a tool to combat inflation? Josh Wright and Hal Singer, holding opposite views, debate, explain and answer questions from a live audience ranging from costs and benefits to theories and facts. Listen to this episode recorded live in George Mason law school, co-hosted by Anora Wang and Jana Seidl, and learn what key considerations go into this timely discussion. Related Links: Noah Phillips & Joshua Wright, As Inflation Rises, Antitrust ‘Reformers’ Target Lower Prices (2021) Steven Salop & Fiona Scott Morton, The 2010 HMGs Ten Years Later: Where Do We Go From Here? (2020) Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter and Jana Seidl, Baker Botts

Jan 24, 2022 • 29min
#151 Are You Ready for Some Football? Antitrust and the NFL.
There has been a ton of antitrust litigation involving the NFL over the past 70 years. What have these cases been about, and what can they teach us about the doctrine and practice of antitrust more broadly? Stephen Ross, a Penn State law professor and an expert on sports antitrust law, joins Sergei Zaslavsky and Christina Ma to discuss the history of NFL (and other sport) antitrust litigation and the key lessons for antitrust practitioners. Listen to this episode to learn about the key antitrust concepts that sports litigation helped develop and sharpen, from intra-enterprise agreement doctrine to the application of the rule of reason. Related Links: American Needle v. National Football League Supreme Court Opinion Stephen Ross bio and publications Stephen Ross, The Single-Entity Doctrine of Antitrust as Applied to Sports Leagues Hosted by: Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz and Sergei Zaslavsky, O'Melveny & Myers

Jan 17, 2022 • 27min
#150 Is This the End of Mandatory Arbitration? Turning the Tables With Mass Arbitration
Knowing that few people have the time or resources to initiate arbitration over relatively small damages, many large companies rely on mandatory arbitration provisions and class action waivers in their employment and consumer agreements. But what happens when plaintiffs’ attorneys file individual arbitration cases on behalf of thousands of claimants at the same time? In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and John Roberti speak with Dave Rochelson, author of "Is This the End of Mandatory Arbitration?" about the new wave of so-called “mass arbitrations,” in which the respondent may be required to pay aggregated filing and case administration fees totaling hundreds of thousands, or even millions of dollars. Listen to this episode to discover how mass arbitration is leveling the playing field and calling into question the cost-benefit proposition of class waivers and mandatory arbitration. Related Links: David B. Rochelson, "Is This the End of Mandatory Arbitration?", Antitrust (ABA Fall 2021) Hosted by: Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and John Roberti, Allen & Overy LLP

Jan 10, 2022 • 31min
#149 Who Killed Chicken Farming in America? Concentration and Price-Fixing in the Poultry Industry
Small chicken farmers are being pitted against each other by giant processing companies. Does the chicken industry have a concentration problem? Craig Watts, a contract poultry farmer for 22 years, joins Food & Power writer Claire Kelloway and the former head of the USDOJ Antitrust Division's criminal section, Brent Snyder, to discuss consolidation and price-fixing in the industry. Listen to this episode to learn more about the life of a chicken farmer, the state of concentration in the meat industry, and whether the Biden Administration's plans to fix it will help. Related Links: Why This Chicken Farmer Is Growing Mushrooms Addressing Concentration in the Meat Processing Industry to Lower Food Prices for American Families Biden Meatpacking Reforms Lack Punch, Say Critics Obama's Game of Chicken Hosted by: Anant Raut and Christina Ma