

Our Curious Amalgam
American Bar Association
Our Curious Amalgam explores topics in antitrust, competition, consumer protection, data protection, and privacy law around the world with leading experts in those areas. It is an amalgam because it is a group of diverse topics all in one place. It is curious because it gets the experts and asks them in-depth questions.
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Sep 19, 2022 • 38min
#187 What Has Changed (or Not) in 14 Years? Conversation With Steve Harris on the Development of China’s Anti-Monopoly Law
The Anti-Monopoly Law (AML) is China’s principal antitrust statute, as recently amended in August 2022, exactly 14 years after its inception. What has changed about China’s antitrust regime over the years? Steve Harris, respected practitioner and thought leader on Asian antitrust laws, speaks with Anora Wang and Christina Ma about his experiences with and perspectives of the AML, enforcement, and relevant agencies. Listen to this episode to learn about the significant developments of China’s antitrust law. With special guests H Stephen Harris Jr., Attorney at Law Related Link: American Bar Association Comments on Five Draft Provisions Implementing the Anti-Monopoly Law of China (August 18, 2022) Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter and Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, & Katz

Sep 14, 2022 • 21min
#186 Who Is John Roberti? A Conversation With John Roberti
John Roberti, one of the founders of Our Curious Amalgam and a longtime leader in the ABA Antitrust Law Section, just wrapped up his term as co-chair of the committee that produces our weekly podcasts. Looking back, what does John think about the evolution of OCA and what does he hope will be his legacy? To find out, Christina Ma and Alicia Downey interviewed John for a special farewell episode. Listen to this episode for stories about the early days of OCA and John's unique take on what it means to be from Delco. With special guests: John Roberti, Partner, Cohen & Gresser LLP Hosted by: Christina Ma, Partner, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz and Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC

Sep 12, 2022 • 27min
#185 Who Is Tom Zych? Meet the 2022-23 Chair of the ABA Antitrust Law Section
Tom Zych of Cleveland, Ohio has taken on the big job of chairing the Antitrust Law Section for the 2022-23 ABA year. Who is the Section's new chair and what makes him tick? In this episode Alicia Downey and Matt Reynolds talk to Tom about what he'll focus on during his term and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. Listen to this episode to get to know Tom and, as a bonus, meet Mark Butscha, who will serve in the important role of Counsel to the Chair. With special guests: Thomas F. Zych, Partner, Thompson Hine LLP and Mark R. Butscha, Jr., Partner, Thompson Hine LLP Related Link: ABA Antitrust Law Section - Home Hosted by: Alicia L. Downey, Downey Law LLC and Matthew J. Reynolds, Huth Reynolds LLP

Sep 5, 2022 • 33min
#184 Part II: One, Two, Three Strikes You’re Out? A Two-Part Discussion With the Defense Lawyers in the Three Part Chicken Price-Fixing Trials
A Denver jury recently acquitted defendants in the highly publicized third criminal trial involving allegations of price fixing in the chicken industry. What led to that not guilty verdict? Defense attorneys Rick Kornfeld and David Beller join Jaclyn Phillips and Christina Ma in a two-part series discussing the trials, strategy, and lessons learned. Listen to Part II today and hear Rick & David's reflections on the three trials--from simplifying complex themes to diversity in the courtroom. With special guests: Rick Kornfeld, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC and David Beller, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC Hosted by: Christina Ma, Partner, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, & Katz and Jaclyn Phillips, Associate, White & Case LLP

Aug 29, 2022 • 30min
#183 Part I: One, Two, Three Strikes You’re Out? A Two-Part Discussion With Defense Lawyers in the Three Part Chicken Price-Fixing Trials
A Denver jury recently acquitted defendants in the highly publicized third criminal trial involving allegations of price fixing in the chicken industry. What led to that not guilty verdict? Defense attorneys Rick Kornfeld and David Beller join Jaclyn Phillips and Christina Ma in a two-part series discussing the trials, strategy, and lessons learned. Listen to Part I today and hear all about the allegations and evidence, how the case evolved over time, and reflections on this historic outcome. With special guests: Rick Kornfeld, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC and David Beller, Shareholder, Recht Kornfeld PC Hosted by: Christina Ma, Partner, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, & Katz and Jaclyn Phillips, Associate, White & Case LLP

Aug 22, 2022 • 24min
#182 Putting Equity Into Section 8? A Deeper Dive Into What Increased Enforcement Could Mean for Private Equity and Beyond
In a time of increased uncertainty surrounding antitrust issues, Section 8 of the Clayton Act and private equity firms have recently become two topics of interest. What are the implications of recent comments from enforcers on these issues? Ken Schwartz, antitrust partner at Skadden, joins Christina Ma and Jaclyn Phillips to discuss the current landscape around Section 8 as an enforcement tool and private equity transactions. Listen to this episode to hear more about what changes we may (or may not) see going forward. With special guest: Kenneth B. Schwartz, Partner, Skadden Hosted by: Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz and Jaclyn Phillips, White & Case LLP

Aug 15, 2022 • 39min
#181 Are We Understanding the Changes? Evaluating the Antitrust Assumptions
The bases for the enhanced antitrust enforcement programs at the Antitrust Division have been discussed often but understood rarely. What are the key assumptions that are being challenged as part of the new antitrust regime? David Lawrence, Policy Director at the Department of Justice Antitrust Division, joins John Roberti, Anant Raut and Aaron Yeater to discuss four key assumptions that new enforcers view with skepticism. Listen to this episode to understand better what is animating enforcement at the Antitrust Division. With special guest: David Lawrence, Policy Director, U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division Related Link: https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/antitrust-division-policy-director-david-lawrence-delivers-keynote-hal-white-antitrust Hosted by: John Roberti, Cohen & Gresser LLP, Aaron Yeater, Analysis Group, and Anant Raut

Aug 8, 2022 • 44min
#180 An Overlooked Battleground? Antitrust Issues Before the U.S. International Trade Commission (USITC)
The United States International Trade Commission (ITC) may have been a familiar forum to parties in international trade to address disputes over intellectual property rights. But can the ITC also be an alternative adjudication body for private antitrust litigation? The Honorable F. Scott Kieff, Professor of Law at the George Washington Law School and former USITC commissioner speaks with Anora Wang and Christina Ma on the ITC’s design, the agency’s Section 337 docket, and ITC proceedings involving antitrust. Listen to this episode to learn about the ITC as an agency and its relevance to competition. With special guest: F. Scott Kieff, Fred C. Stevenson Research Professor of Law, George Washington University Law School Related Links: 1. F. Scott Kieff, Private Antitrust at the U.S. International Trade Commission, 14 J. Comp. L. & Econ. 46 (2018) 2. F. Scott Kieff, "A Soup to Nuts Overview of a Job Search: A Common Sense Primer for Law Students" (2009) Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter and Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

Aug 1, 2022 • 35min
#179 What Have We Learned From Empirical Studies? Potential Antitrust Concerns Arising From Common Ownership
There is a growing interest in understanding the “ownership interests hypothesis,” i.e., whether investors holding interests in competing firms will soften firms’ incentives to compete and generate anticompetitive effects. But what do the data show? Isabel Tecu, principal at Charles River Associates and co-author of a leading study on common ownership focusing on the airlines industry, discusses her observations and insights with Anora Wang and Christina Ma. Listen to this episode to learn about the knowns and unknowns from the empirical evidence as well as implications for competition policy. With special guest: Isabel Tecu, Principal, Charles River Associates Related Links: 1. José Azar, Martin C. Schmalz & Isabel Tecu, Anticompetitive Effects of Common Ownership (Working Paper, 2014) 2. Isabel Tecu, "Anticompetitive Effects of Common Ownership" at Seven Years, Antitrust Magazine, Volume 36, Issue 1 (Fall 2021) Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter and Christina Ma, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

Jul 25, 2022 • 41min
#178 What’s the Role of FTC’s General Counsel? A Conversation with Alden Abbott on Historical and Current Issues
The FTC’s General Counsel (GC) is the agency’s chief legal officer and adviser that provides counsel on various issues of law and policy and represents the agency in court. What are some of the most regular and important issues at the FTC’s GC office? Prof. Alden Abbott, former FTC GC and current Senior Research Fellow at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center, speaks with John Roberti and Anora Wang on issues including the Administrative Procedure Act, which can be critical especially when the agency expands or restricts its authorities. Listen to this episode to better understand the FTC’s GC role. With special guest: Alden Abbott, Senior Research Fellow, Mercatus Center at George Mason University Related Links: Alden Abbott, FTC Competition Regulation: A Cost-Benefit Appraisal (June 28, 2021) Hosted by: John Roberti, Cohen & Gresser and Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter