
The Stone Chapel Podcast
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is a weekly podcast of the friends and staff of The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center in Houston, Texas. It is hosted by David Capes, Director of Academic Programming of the Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center. David is an engaging host, a respected New Testament scholar, and the author of Rediscovering Paul and Matthew through Old Testament Eyes. “The Stone Chapel Podcast” features theologians, scholars, and thought leaders from around the world for lively, informative, and educational discussions. With over 200 compelling, uplifting episodes that are valuable for all spiritually curious listeners, the Stone Chapel Podcast provides an unique, weekly refresh and renewal resource for pastors and church leaders.
In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities!
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“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network.
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Latest episodes

Apr 15, 2025 • 20min
Hazael, Action Hero With Lawson Younger
Dr. Lawson Younger is Professor Emeritus at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School outside Chicago, Illinois, and joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss a little known, but extremely important adversary of Israel and Judah around the time of Elijah and Elisha. His name is Hazael, and he reigned over the Arameans in Damascus. He was a scourge to the Hebrew Kingdoms, but apparently God had a purpose for him. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-hazael-action-hero-lawson-younger To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Apr 8, 2025 • 21min
Who Did Paul Think He Was? With Scott Hafemann
Dr. Scott Hafemann, retired reader in New Testament from the University of St. Andrews, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." He was at the Lanier Library to teach a course for the Lanier Certificate in Theology and Ministry. His topic: Paul and his letters. In this podcast, they cover a lot of topics: new covenant, Paul’s thorn in the flesh, his suffering, the law, the role of the Spirit, faith, and Paul’s self- understanding. Among other books, Dr. Hafemann has written "The NIV Application Commentary: 2 Corinthians." "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-who-did-paul-think-he-was-scott-hafemann To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Apr 1, 2025 • 21min
'How Long, O Lord?' With Rico Villanueva
Filipino scholar, Federico “Rico” Villanueva, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about the tragic loss of lament in the church today. Everyone wants to come to church and be happy in Jesus, yet the reality is, a large portion of the people present are going through soul-wrenching hardships. What can we do for them? One-third of the Psalms are laments, and we need to recover those in our worship today to minister to those who are suffering and to deepen our own spiritual lives. Federico lectured at the Lanier Theological Library in January 2025. You can find that video here. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-how-long-lord-rico-villanueva To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Mar 25, 2025 • 19min
Did Scribes Copy the Bible Correctly? (Part 2) With Emanuel Tov
Emanuel Tov stops by for another episode of "The Stone Chapel Podcast." The scribes had an enormous and critical job to do. How well did they do it? If you missed last week’s podcast, you missed part one. Go back and listen to that now. Also, make sure you join us at the Lanier Theological Library on Saturday, April 7, 2025, for Emanuel Tov’s lecture, “The Scribes of Qumran.” Our website is www.laniertheologicallibrary.org "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-scribes-qumran-emanuel-tov-2 To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Mar 18, 2025 • 21min
The Scribes of Qumran (Part 1) With Emanuel Tov
Legendary Dead Sea Scrolls expert, Emanuel Tov, joins David Capes again on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." He and his wife, Lika, are residents at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston, Texas. On this episode, he discusses the people who copied and created all the wonderful scrolls discovered in the Judean desert. He will lecture on April 5, 2025, at the library on “The Scribes of Qumran.” For more information, please consult www.laniertheologicallibrary.org. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-scribes-qumran-emanuel-tov To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Mar 11, 2025 • 18min
The Untold Story (Part 2) With Frank Viola
Frank Viola is back this week with part two of his podcast with David Capes on The Stone Chapel Podcast. Frank has released a new book, "The Untold Story of the New Testament Church: Revised and Expanded." It is a terrific book that weds together the history and the letters in a fresh and reliable way. Frank’s website is frankviola.org. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-untold-story-frank-viola-2 To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Mar 4, 2025 • 26min
The Untold Story (Part 1) With Frank Viola
More than 20 books and 1000 articles into a writing and speaking career for the church, Frank Viola joins David Capes to talk about his book, "The Untold Story of the New Testament." It’s a book that situates the many letters of the New Testament within a plausible history of the times. Frank has conducted meticulous research for decades to tell the untold story. All of Frank’s books, articles, and other great content (much of it FREE!) can be found at frankviola.org. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-untold-story-frank-viola To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Feb 25, 2025 • 22min
'Israel’s Lord' (Part 2) With David Wilhite and Adam Winn
David Wilhite and Adam Winn are back for part two of their conversation with David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." They have written an important book that explores the nature of Judaism at the time of Jesus and the early church. In particular, they are interested in what Jews thought about God’s Names, attributes, and his oneness. A good deal of this conversation is given to the mysterious figure of the Son of Man. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-israels-lord-david-wilhite-adam-winn-2 To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Feb 18, 2025 • 20min
'Israel’s Lord' (Part 1) With David Wilhite and Adam Winn
How did the earliest Christians, who were Jews, who believed in one God, come to identify Jesus with Israel’s Lord? Or did they? Are we misunderstanding them altogether? These are some of the questions David Wilhite and Adam Winn have set out to answer in a new and upcoming series at Fortress Press. Their first book is, "Israel’s Lord: Yahweh as 'Two Powers' in Second Temple Literature." This is the first of two podcasts on the topic. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-israels-lord-david-wilhite-adam-winn To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Feb 11, 2025 • 21min
Savoring Scripture With Andrew Abernethy
Dr. Andrew Abernethy, a Hebrew and Old Testament specialist at Wheaton College, joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about his recent book, "Savoring Scripture: A Six Step Guide to Studying the Bible." As a scholar, Andy often writes books and articles for people inside the academy. In this book, he takes insights he’s gained on how to help laypeople read the Bible more effectively as a means of savoring God and his Word. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-savoring-scripture-andrew-abernethy To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
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