The Stone Chapel Podcast
ChurchLeaders Podcast Network
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is a weekly podcast of the friends and staff of The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center in Houston, Texas. It is hosted by David Capes, Director of Academic Programming of the Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center. David is an engaging host, a respected New Testament scholar, and the author of Rediscovering Paul and Matthew through Old Testament Eyes. “The Stone Chapel Podcast” features theologians, scholars, and thought leaders from around the world for lively, informative, and educational discussions. With over 200 compelling, uplifting episodes that are valuable for all spiritually curious listeners, the Stone Chapel Podcast provides an unique, weekly refresh and renewal resource for pastors and church leaders.
In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities!
You can find all “The Stone Chapel Podcast” episodes on your favorite podcast platform.
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network.
Copyright Lanier Foundation
In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities!
You can find all “The Stone Chapel Podcast” episodes on your favorite podcast platform.
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network.
Copyright Lanier Foundation
Episodes
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Sep 16, 2025 • 22min
Encore: Did Jesus Think He Was Divine? With Brant Pitre
Brant Pitre joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about his new book, "Jesus and Divine Christology" (Eerdmans). Brant is Professor of Sacred Scripture at the Augustine Institute in St. Louis, Missouri. He is also author of "Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper," along with other books on the Jewish roots of early Christianity. Dr. Pitre holds to an early high Christology, a Christology rooted in Jesus’ acts and deeds. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/did-jesus-think-he-was-divine-brant-pitre To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 9, 2025 • 26min
Sacred Songs and Wise Sayings With Terry Wildman
Indigenous leader, Terry Wildman, is back on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." This time he and David Capes discuss the newest release of the "First Nations Version, Psalms and Proverbs." On this episode, Darlene Wildman, Terry’s wife, plays a native flute. Her music brings out the beauty and dignity to reading Holy Scripture. The First Nations Version (FNV) renders many aspects of the Hebrew Bible in ways that speak to the ideas and values of the people who used to occupy “Turtle Island,” the native American way of talking about North America. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-sacred-songs-wise-sayings-terry-wildman To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 2, 2025 • 19min
How to Choose Leaders With Nathan Hatch
You would figure that someone who was Provost at the University of Notre Dame and President of Wake Forest University would know how to recruit the best leaders for the schools. And you’d be correct. Dr. Nathan Hatch held both of those jobs for 25 years, and he learned how to recruit the best team around him. You can learn that too, but you have to be smart and secure. Read all about it in his book, "The Gift of Transformative Leaders, Cambridge Element Series" (Cambridge University Press). He joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about it. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-how-to-choose-leaders-nathan-hatch To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 26, 2025 • 25min
Did Paul’s Theology Change? With Gary Burge
Gary Burge had a difficult job. This NT professor wrote the volume on Galatians and Ephesians for the “Through Old Testament Eyes” series with Kregel Academic. It was published earlier this year. He stops by to talk with David Capes about his project and that he discovered along the way, how different the two books are. So he wonders: did Paul’s theology change from his first book to his last? Not only is Paul’s context different in that roughly 14-15 year period but Paul himself may have changed. "Galatians and Ephesians Through OT Eyes: A Background and Application Commentary" (Kregel Academic, 2025). See also, David B. Capes, "Matthew Through OT Eyes" (Kregel Academic, 2024). "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-paul-theology-change-gary-burge To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 19, 2025 • 23min
A Fish, a Wheel, and Christ With Danny Hays
Symbols are all around us. They are so common we aren’t even aware they are symbols, but we know what each one means. But what happens after 1,500 years when languages and cultures have come and gone? Well, someone has to rediscover those symbols and their significance. That is exactly what Dr. Danny Hays and his colleagues have done. They have found various Christian symbols literally right under the noses of historians and archaeologists, carved into hard Roman paving stones. He joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about his book, "The Ichthus Christogram and other Early Christian Symbols." "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-fish-wheel-christ-danny-hays To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 12, 2025 • 22min
What Is the Gospel? With Jason Maston
Internet debates sometimes make it into published, academic or popular books. On this episode, I talk with Jason Maston about a book he and Michael Bird edited: "Five Views on the Gospel" (Zondervan Academic, 2025). Every Christian who listens to this episode will find themselves represented in the discussion. And if you listen carefully, you may learn something new. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-gospel-jason-maston To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 5, 2025 • 22min
Hamoreh: The Teacher With Marcus Lawhon
Marcus Lawhon leads Hamoreh Ministries. It is dedicated to training pastors and church leaders in remote places in east Africa. While seminaries in the west are searching for students, the growing churches of Africa are searching for theological education for their pastors. Hamoreh is Hebrew for “The Teacher,” a word that aptly describes the exciting work being done. Marcus sat down with David Capes to talk about some remarkable results. For information about Hamoreh Ministries go to www.hamoreh.org "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-hamoreh-teacher-marcus-lawhon To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Jul 29, 2025 • 21min
Asaph’s Table With Leslianne and Tyler Newberry
On any given Sunday, worship leaders spend 30-40% of the time in front of a congregation. They lead the church in song, prayer, and adoration, key elements of the service. How well are these worship leaders prepared? Are they spiritually mature and growing? Are they biblically formed? Asaph’s Table is an initiative by Leslianne and Tyler Newberry to address many of these challenges. If you know a worship leader, make sure they hear this. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-asaphs-table-leslianne-tyler-newberry To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Jul 22, 2025 • 18min
Completing the Record With Lynn Cohick, Sandra Glahn, and Nijay Gupta
In this podcast, we revisit some old friends, Lynn Cohick, Sandra Glahn, and Nijay Gupta. Each has contributed in their own way to fill out the story of the Church. Church history often focuses on the men who were the leaders for the last 2,000 years, but what of the women? They occupied unique roles in their day as leaders, patrons, and martyrs in their own right. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-completing-record-lynn-cohick-sandra-glahn-nijay-gupta To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Jul 15, 2025 • 25min
Encore: 'Jesus and the Powers' With N. T. Wright
This is an encore edition of an early episode of "The Stone Chapel Podcast." David Capes talks with N. T. Wright about his book, "Jesus and the Powers" (Zondervan). Wright and his co-author, Michael Bird, are deeply concerned about the political polarization in cultures now across the globe. And they are more disturbed with how Christians are responding in the midst of it. Wright and Bird address these issues with wisdom and theological clarity. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-jesus-powers-n-t-wright To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
