The Stone Chapel Podcast
David Capes
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is a weekly podcast of the friends and staff of The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center in Houston, Texas. It is hosted by David Capes, Director of Academic Programming of the Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center. David is an engaging host, a respected New Testament scholar, and the author of Rediscovering Paul and Matthew through Old Testament Eyes. “The Stone Chapel Podcast” features theologians, scholars, and thought leaders from around the world for lively, informative, and educational discussions. With over 200 compelling, uplifting episodes that are valuable for all spiritually curious listeners, the Stone Chapel Podcast provides an unique, weekly refresh and renewal resource for pastors and church leaders.
In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities!
You can find all “The Stone Chapel Podcast” episodes on your favorite podcast platform.
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network.
Copyright Lanier Foundation
In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities!
You can find all “The Stone Chapel Podcast” episodes on your favorite podcast platform.
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network.
Copyright Lanier Foundation
Episodes
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Oct 7, 2025 • 19min
Resurrection in the Scrolls? With Andrew Perrin
Is the idea of the resurrection found in the Old Testament? Some say, no. Some say, yes. Is it found in the New Testament? Absolutely, it’s central to the message! But do those mysterious, wonderful desert scrolls have anything to say on the subject? Dr. Andrew Perrin, a Dead Sea Scrolls scholar, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to summarize a lecture he brings to students enrolled in the Lanier Certificate in Theology and Ministry. Perrin has an amazing background in the scrolls and offers some insights into two of the scrolls. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-resurrection-scrolls-andrew-perrin To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 30, 2025 • 22min
Seeing the Bible Come Alive With Oliver Hersey
Dr. Oliver Hersey joins David Capes for this episode of "The Stone Chapel Podcast." He became president of Jerusalem University College, and now they are going through a war that began in October 2023. The college is located on Mount Zion right outside the Jerusalem city gates. Their mission is to help students see the Bible come alive as they study in the land of Israel. But that has been a challenge through COVID and now the war. Still, miracles abound, and they are ready for the next, peaceful chapter. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-seeing-bible-come-alive-oliver-hersey To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 23, 2025 • 16min
'Under Her Wings' With Jennifer Houston McNeel
One theme in the New Testament that has not been studied: mothers and motherhood. That is until now. Dr. Jennifer Houston McNeel, a New Testament professor at the St. Mary’s Ecumenical Institute in Baltimore, MD, has now written that book—"Under Her Wings: Mother and Motherhood in the New Testament." She joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss how themes of mother and motherhood shape the story of the Gospels, but also leaders like Jesus, Paul, and John. These men talk freely about themselves as church leaders not only in fatherly tones but also in motherly as well. And they extend those qualities to God himself. It’s an important book for pastors, church leaders, and scholars alike. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-under-her-wings-jennifer-houston-mcneel To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 16, 2025 • 22min
Encore: Did Jesus Think He Was Divine? With Brant Pitre
Brant Pitre joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about his new book, "Jesus and Divine Christology" (Eerdmans). Brant is Professor of Sacred Scripture at the Augustine Institute in St. Louis, Missouri. He is also author of "Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper," along with other books on the Jewish roots of early Christianity. Dr. Pitre holds to an early high Christology, a Christology rooted in Jesus’ acts and deeds. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/did-jesus-think-he-was-divine-brant-pitre To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 9, 2025 • 26min
Sacred Songs and Wise Sayings With Terry Wildman
Indigenous leader, Terry Wildman, is back on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." This time he and David Capes discuss the newest release of the "First Nations Version, Psalms and Proverbs." On this episode, Darlene Wildman, Terry’s wife, plays a native flute. Her music brings out the beauty and dignity to reading Holy Scripture. The First Nations Version (FNV) renders many aspects of the Hebrew Bible in ways that speak to the ideas and values of the people who used to occupy “Turtle Island,” the native American way of talking about North America. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-sacred-songs-wise-sayings-terry-wildman To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Sep 2, 2025 • 19min
How to Choose Leaders With Nathan Hatch
You would figure that someone who was Provost at the University of Notre Dame and President of Wake Forest University would know how to recruit the best leaders for the schools. And you’d be correct. Dr. Nathan Hatch held both of those jobs for 25 years, and he learned how to recruit the best team around him. You can learn that too, but you have to be smart and secure. Read all about it in his book, "The Gift of Transformative Leaders, Cambridge Element Series" (Cambridge University Press). He joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about it. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-how-to-choose-leaders-nathan-hatch To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 26, 2025 • 25min
Did Paul’s Theology Change? With Gary Burge
Gary Burge had a difficult job. This NT professor wrote the volume on Galatians and Ephesians for the “Through Old Testament Eyes” series with Kregel Academic. It was published earlier this year. He stops by to talk with David Capes about his project and that he discovered along the way, how different the two books are. So he wonders: did Paul’s theology change from his first book to his last? Not only is Paul’s context different in that roughly 14-15 year period but Paul himself may have changed. "Galatians and Ephesians Through OT Eyes: A Background and Application Commentary" (Kregel Academic, 2025). See also, David B. Capes, "Matthew Through OT Eyes" (Kregel Academic, 2024). "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-paul-theology-change-gary-burge To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 19, 2025 • 23min
A Fish, a Wheel, and Christ With Danny Hays
Symbols are all around us. They are so common we aren’t even aware they are symbols, but we know what each one means. But what happens after 1,500 years when languages and cultures have come and gone? Well, someone has to rediscover those symbols and their significance. That is exactly what Dr. Danny Hays and his colleagues have done. They have found various Christian symbols literally right under the noses of historians and archaeologists, carved into hard Roman paving stones. He joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about his book, "The Ichthus Christogram and other Early Christian Symbols." "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-fish-wheel-christ-danny-hays To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 12, 2025 • 22min
What Is the Gospel? With Jason Maston
Internet debates sometimes make it into published, academic or popular books. On this episode, I talk with Jason Maston about a book he and Michael Bird edited: "Five Views on the Gospel" (Zondervan Academic, 2025). Every Christian who listens to this episode will find themselves represented in the discussion. And if you listen carefully, you may learn something new. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-gospel-jason-maston To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
Aug 5, 2025 • 22min
Hamoreh: The Teacher With Marcus Lawhon
Marcus Lawhon leads Hamoreh Ministries. It is dedicated to training pastors and church leaders in remote places in east Africa. While seminaries in the west are searching for students, the growing churches of Africa are searching for theological education for their pastors. Hamoreh is Hebrew for “The Teacher,” a word that aptly describes the exciting work being done. Marcus sat down with David Capes to talk about some remarkable results. For information about Hamoreh Ministries go to www.hamoreh.org "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-hamoreh-teacher-marcus-lawhon To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.
