
CISO Perspectives (public)
CISO Perspectives explores the evolving landscape of cybersecurity leadership, talent, and risk—because success in cybersecurity is about people, not just technology. Hosted by Kim Jones, veteran CISO and educator, this podcast challenges conventional thinking on leadership, talent pipelines, and the disconnects holding the profession back. Join Kim for candid discussions with industry leaders, and insights that help you build a stronger, more resilient cyber ecosystem.
Latest episodes

Oct 16, 2024 • 47min
Election Propaganda: Part 3: Efforts to reduce the impact of future elections. [CSO Perspectives]
Thinking past the US 2024 Presidential Election, In part three of the series, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses reducing the impact of propaganda in the future elections with Perry Carpenter, Chief Human Risk Management Strategist at KnowBe4 and host of the 8th Layer Insights Podcast, Nina Jankowicz, Co-Founder and CEO of the The American Sunlight Project, and Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber.Check out Part 1 & 2!Part 1: Election Propaganda Part 1: How Does Election Propaganda Work? In this episode, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses personal defensive measures that every citizen can take—regardless of political philosophy—to resist the influence of propaganda. This foundational episode is essential for understanding how to navigate the complex landscape of election messaging.Part 2: Election Propaganda: Part 2: Modern propaganda efforts. In preparation for the US 2024 Presidential Election, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses recent international propaganda efforts in the form of nation state interference and influence operations as well as domestic campaigns designed to split the target country into opposing camps. Guests include Nina Jankowicz, Co-Founder and CEO of the The American Sunlight Project and Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber.References:Rick Howard, 2024. Election Propaganda Part 1: How does election propaganda work? [3 Part Podcast Series]. The CyberWire.Rick Howard, 2024. Election Propaganda: Part 2: Modern propaganda efforts. [3 Part Podcast Series]. The CyberWire.Christopher Chabris, Daniel Simons, 2010. The Invisible Gorilla: And Other Ways Our Intuitions Deceive Us [Book]. Goodreads.Chris Palmer, 2010. TFL Viral - Awareness Test (Moonwalking Bear) [Explainer]. YouTube.David Ehl, 2024. Why Meta is now banning Russian propaganda [News]. Deutsche Welle. Eli Pariser, 2011. The Filter Bubble: What the Internet is Hiding From You [Book]. Goodreads.Kara Swisher, Julia Davis, Alex Stamos, Brandy Zadrozny, 2024. Useful Idiots? How Right-Wing Influencers Got $ to Spread Russian Propaganda [Podcast]. On with Kara Swisher.Nate Silver, 2024. What’s behind Trump’s surge in prediction markets? [Analysis]. Silver Bulletin.Niha Masih, 2024. Meta bans Russian state media outlet RT for acts of ‘foreign interference’ [News]. The Washington Post.Nilay Patel, 2024. The AI election deepfakes have arrived [Podcast]. Decoder.Nina Jankowicz, 2020. How to Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News and the Future of Conflict [Book]. Goodreads. Perry Carpenter, 2024. FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions [Book]. Goodreads. Perry Carpenter, 2021. Meatloaf Recipes Cookbook: Easy Recipes For Preparing Tasty Meals For Weight Loss And Healthy Lifestyle All Year Round [Book]. Goodreads.Perry Carpenter, n.d. 8th Layer Insights [Podcast]. N2K CyberWire.Renee DiResta, 2024. Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality [Book]. Goodreads. Robin Stern, Marc Brackett, 2024. 5 Ways to Recognize and Avoid Political Gaslighting [Explainer]. The Washington Post.Sarah Ellison, Amy Gardner, Clara Ence Morse, 2024. Elon Musk’s misleading election claims reach millions and alarm election officials [News]. The Washington Post.Scott Small, 2024. Election Cyber Interference Threats & Defenses: A Data-Driven Study [White Paper]. Tidal Cyber.Staff, n.d. Overview: Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity [Website]. C2PA.Staff, 2021. Foreign Threats to the 2020 US Federal Elections [Intelligence Community Assessment]. DNI.Staff, n.d. Project Origin [Website]. OriginProject. URL https://www.originproject.info/Stuart A. Thompson, Tiffany Hsu, 2024. Left-Wing Misinformation Is Having a Moment [Analysis] The New York Times. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 9, 2024 • 51min
Election Propaganda: Part 2: Modern propaganda efforts. [CSO Perspectives]
In preparation for the US 2024 Presidential Election, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses recent international propaganda efforts in the form of nation state interference and influence operations as well as domestic campaigns designed to split the target country into opposing camps. Guests include Nina Jankowicz, Co-Founder and CEO of the The American Sunlight Project and Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber.References:Scott Small, 2024. Election Cyber Interference Threats & Defenses: A Data-Driven Study [White Paper]. Tidal Cyber.Renee DiResta, 2024. Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality [Book]. Goodreads.Nina Jankowicz, 2020. How to Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News and the Future of Conflict [Book]. Goodreads. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 7, 2024 • 18min
Making security decisions around AI use. [CSO Perspectives]
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, has a free-wheeling conversation with Merritt Baer, Reco AI’s CISO, about how infosec professionals should think about AI, Machine Learning, and Large Language Models (LLMs). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 2, 2024 • 34min
Election Propaganda Part 1: How does election propaganda work? [CSO Perspectives]
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses personal defensive measures that an average citizen, regardless of political philosophy, can take in order to not succumb to propaganda.References:David Ehl, 2024. Why Meta is now banning Russian propaganda [News]. Deutsche Welle.Jeff Berman, Renée DiResta, 2023. Disinformation & How To Combat It [Interview]. Youtube. Niha Masih, 2024. Meta bans Russian state media outlet RT for acts of ‘foreign interference’ [News]. The Washington Post.Quentin Hardy, Renée DiResta, 2024. The Invisible Rulers Turning Lies Into Reality [Interview]. YouTube. Rob Tracinski, Renée DiResta, 2024. The Internet Rumor Mill [Interview]. YouTube.Robin Stern, Marc Brackett, 2024. 5 Ways to Recognize and Avoid Political Gaslighting [Explainer]. The Washington Post.Sarah Ellison, Amy Gardner, Clara Ence Morse, 2024. Elon Musk’s misleading election claims reach millions and alarm election officials [News]. The Washington Post.Scott Small, 2024. Election Cyber Interference Threats & Defenses: A Data-Driven Study [White Paper]. Tidal Cyber. Staff, 2021. Foreign Threats to the 2020 US Federal Elections [Intelligence Community Assessment]. DNI.Staff, 2024. Election Cyber Interference Threats & Defenses: A Data-Driven Study [White Paper]. Tidal.Stuart A. Thompson, Tiffany Hsu, 2024. Left-Wing Misinformation Is Having a Moment [Analysis. The New York Times. Stuart A. Thompson, 2024. Elon Musk’s Week on X: Deepfakes, Falsehoods and Lots of Memes [News]. The New York Times.Will Oremus, 2024. Zuckerberg expresses regrets over covid misinformation crackdown [News]. The Washington Post.Yascha Mounk, Renée DiResta, 2022. How (Not) to Fix Social Media [Interview]. YouTube.Renee DiResta, 2024. Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality [Book]. Goodreads. Nina Jankowicz, 2020. How to Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News and the Future of Conflict [Book]. Goodreads. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 30, 2024 • 19min
Security remediation automation.
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting responsibilities to Rick Doten, the VP of Information Security at Centene and one of the original contributors to the N2K CyberWire Hash Table. He makes the case to invigorate the automation first principle cybersecurity strategy. In this case, he is specifically addressing remediation automation.References:Staff, n.d. National Pie Championships [Website]. American Pie Council.Rick Doten. Rick’s Cybersecurity Videos [Youtube Channel]. YouTube.Joe, 2020. The Unbearable Frequency of PewPew Maps [Explainer]. Stranded on Pylos.Aanchal Gupta, 2022. Celebrating 20 Years of Trustworthy Computing [Explainer]. Microsoft Security Blog. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 23, 2024 • 26min
Resilience.
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting responsibilities to Roselle Safran, the CEO and Founder of KeyCaliber and one of the original contributors to the N2K CyberWire Hash Table. She interviews Tia Hopkins, the eSentire Chief Cyber Resilience Officer, to make the business case for why resilience might be the most important cyber strategy.References:Black Women in Cyber Collective, 2024. Securing Our Future: Embracing The Resilience and Brilliance of Black Women in Cyber [Book]. Goodreads.Ken Underhill, Christophe Foulon, Tia Hopkins, Mari Galloway, 2022. Hack the Cybersecurity Interview: A complete interview preparation guide for jumpstarting your cybersecurity career [Book]. Goodreads.Ron Ross, Victoria Pillitteri, Richard Graubart, Deborah Bodeau, Rosalie McQuaid, 2021. SP 800-160 Vol. 2 Rev. 1, Developing Cyber-Resilient Systems: A Systems Security Engineering Approach [Guidance]. CSRC.Roselle Safran, 2024. Who Does the CISO Work for? [Social Media Post]. LinkedIn.Staff, n.d. Empow(H)er Cyber Home [Website]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 16, 2024 • 25min
Breaking the information sharing barrier. [CSOP]
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting responsibilities to Errol Weiss, the Chief Security Officer (CSO) of the HEALTH-ISAC and one of the original contributors to the N2K CyberWire Hash Table. He will make the business case for information sharing.References:White and Williams LLP, Staff Osborne Clarke LLP , 2018. Threat Information Sharing and GDPR [Legal Review]. FS-ISAC.Senator Richard Burr (R-NC), 2015. S.754 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): To improve cybersecurity in the United States through enhanced sharing of information about cybersecurity threats, and for other purposes [Law]. Library of Congress.Staff, n.d. National Council of ISACs [Website]. NCI.Staff, 2020. Guidance to Assist Non-Federal Entities to Share Cyber Threat Indicators and Defensive Measures with Federal Entities under the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2015 [Guidance]. CISA.Staff, 2023. Information Sharing Best Practices [White paper]. Health-ISAC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 11, 2024 • 30min
A CSO's 9/11 Story: CSO Perspectives Bonus. [CSOP]
For the 20th anniversary of 9/11 in 2021, Rick Howard, the CyberWire’s CSO, Chief Analyst, and Senior Fellow, recounts his experience from inside the Pentagon running the communications systems for the Army Operations Center.Read Rick's related essay and check out his original notes of 9/11/01 written in the weeks following the attacks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 12, 2024 • 12min
What does materiality mean exactly? [CSO Perspectives]
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses the meaning of cybersecurity materiality.References:Amy Howe, 2024. Supreme Court strikes down Chevron, curtailing power of federal agencies [Blog] Cydney Posner, 2023. SEC Adopts Final Rules on Cybersecurity Disclosure [Explainer]. The Harvard Law School Forum on Corporate Governance.Cynthia Brumfield, 2022. 5 years after NotPetya: Lessons learned Analysis]. CSO Online.Eleanor Dallaway, 2023. Closed for Business: The Organisations That Suffered Fatal Cyber Attacks that Shut Their Doors For Good [News]. Assured.Gary Cohen, 2021. Throwback Attack: Chinese hackers steal plans for the F-35 fighter in a supply chain heist [Explainer]. Industrial Cybersecurity Pulse.James Pearson, 2022. Russia downed satellite internet in Ukraine [News]. Reuters.Katz, D., 2021. Corporate Governance Update: “Materiality” in America and Abroad [Essay]. The Harvard Law School Forum on Corporate Governance.Kim Zetter, 2014. Countdown to Zero Day: Stuxnet and the Launch of the World’s First Digital Weapon [Cybersecurity Canon Hall of Fame Book]. Goodreads.Lizárraga, C.J., 2023. Improving the Quality of Cybersecurity Risk Management Disclosures [Essay]. U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.MATTHEW DALY, 2024. Supreme Court Chevron decision: What it means for federal regulations [WWW Document]. AP News.Rick Howard. Countdown to Zero Day: Stuxnet and the Launch of the World’s First Digital Weapon [Book Review]. Cybersecurity Canon Project.Rick Howard, 2021. Using cyber sand tables to study the DNC hack of 2016. [Podcast]. The CyberWire.Rick Howard, 2022. Cyber sand table series: OPM. [Podcast and Essay]. The CyberWire.Staff, 2020. Qasem Soleimani: US strike on Iran general was unlawful, UN expert says [Explainer]. BBC News.Staff, 2023. Final Rule: Cybersecurity Risk Management, Strategy, Governance, and Incident Disclosure [Government Guidance]. U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.Staff, 2024. Number of Public Companies v. Private: U.S. [Website]. Advisorpedia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 5, 2024 • 19min
Cybersecurity is radically asymmetrically distributed. [CSOP]
Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses the idea that Cybersecurity is radically asymmetrically distributed. It means that cybersecurity risk is not the same for all verticals and knowing that may impact the first principle strategies you choose to protect your enterprise.For a complete reading list and even more information, check out Rick’s more detailed essay on the topic.References:André Munro, 2024. Liberal democracy [Explainer]. Encyclopedia Britannica.David Weedmark, 2017. Why do some states require emissions testing? [Explainer]. Autoblog.Kara Rogers, 2020. What Is a Superspreader Event? [Explainer]. Encyclopedia Britannica.Lara Salahi, 2021. 1 Year Later: The ‘Superspreader’ Conference That Sparked Boston’s COVID Outbreak [News]. NBC10 Boston.Malcolm Gladwell, 2002. The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference [Book]. Goodreads.Malcolm Gladwell, 2005. Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking [Book]. Goodreads.Malcolm Gladwell, 2008. Outliers: The Story of Success [Book]. Goodreads.Malcolm Gladwell, 2019. Talking to Strangers: What We Should Know About the People We Don’t Know [Book]. Goodreads.Malcolm Gladwell, 2021. The Bomber Mafia: A Dream, a Temptation, and the Longest Night of the Second World War [Book]. Goodreads. Malcom Gladwell, 2024. Medal of Honor: Stories of Courage [Podcast]. Pushkin Industries.Malcolm Gladwell. Revisionist History [Podcast]. Pushkin Industries.Michael Lewis, 2003. Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game [Book]. Goodreads.Michael Lewis. Against the Rules [Podcast]. Pushkin Industries.Nassim Nicholas Taleb, 2007. The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable [Book]. Goodreads.Rick Howard, 2023. Cybersecurity First Principles: A Reboot of Strategy and Tactics [Book]. Goodreads.Rick Howard, 2023. Cybersecurity First Principles Book Appendix [Diagram]. N2K CyberWire.Rick Howard, 2023. Cybersecurity moneyball: First principles applied to the workforce gap. [Podcast]. The CyberWire.Rick Howard, Simone Petrella , 2024. The Moneyball Approach to Buying Down Risk, Not Superstars [Presentation]. RSA 2024 Conference.Robert Soucy, 2024. Fascism [Explainer]. Encyclopedia Britannica.Staff, 2022. Information Risk Insights Study: A Clearer Vision for Assessing the Risk of Cyber Incidents [Report]. Cyentia Institute.Staff. Congressional Medal of Honor Recipients [Website]. Congressional Medal of Honor Society.Staff. North American Industry Classification System (NAICS) [Website]. U.S. Census Bureau. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices