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Hello and welcome to the podcast of Rethinking Economics NL! Here we talk with fellow REthinkers about economics, education and so much more! Do you want a more diverse and plural economics? Come REthink with us!
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Sep 24, 2021 • 56min
How to find your path in economics | Rethinking with… Heske van Doornen
In this episode we talk to Heske van Doornen. She currently works at Young Scholars Initiative (YSI), a part of INET (Institute of New Economic Thinking), but didn’t always know what to do. We walk her path through economics, find out whether economics answered her questions about the economy and discuss topics such as the job guarantee.
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Aug 3, 2021 • 30sec
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of Rethinking Economics NL. Here we talk with fellow rethinkers about topics in economics and education. Do you want a more diverse and plural economics? Come rethink economics with us!

Jun 30, 2021 • 52min
Labour Markets in the 21st Century - Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech - #013
For the very last interview in the Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech series we are joined by David Autor (MIT), Vili Lehdonvirta (Oxford), Pascual Restrepo (Boston University), and Maria Savona (University of Sussex) to discuss labour markets in the 21st century, focusing on creating more shared prosperity. How have disruptive technologies such as AI and robotics been affecting labour markets in the last decades, especially in relation to automation? What changes and policies are needed for disruptive technologies, the increasingly digital labour market, and innovation to create more shared prosperity? How does this relate to worker voice, labour unions, the gig economy, and the focus of further research?
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Jun 24, 2021 • 1h 13min
Our future sustainability depends on your definition of a good life | Rethinking with… Florian Kern
In this episode we talk with Florian Kern. He is the head of the research field Ecological Economics and Environmental Policy at the Institute for Ecological Economy Research. We discuss ecological economics and talk about sustainable energy transitions. We also focus on what it takes to build a masters program. Which skills does a student need and how do you decide on the skills a masters program needs to teach them? Next to that we discuss growth and many other topics. Dive in and Rethink economics with us. We’re happy to have you.
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Jun 23, 2021 • 58min
Entrepreneurship in the 21st Century - Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech - #012
This week we are joined by Loubna Bouarfa (OKRA), Yangbo Du (StartingBloc New York), and Yonah Welker (Women in AI) to discuss entrepreneurship in the context of disruptive technologies as AI. How are entrepreneurs applying AI in critical sectors as healthcare to make a meaningful impact? How can disruptive technologies be implemented to create enabling technology with zero exclusion? Why is this more difficult with the focus of venture capital funds and incubators on certain metrics, unicorn companies, and creating monopolies? How does all this relate to the education of economists and what should they know about these topics?
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Jun 16, 2021 • 56min
Finance & Complexity in the 21st Century - Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech - #011
For the 11th interview in the series we are joined by Douglas Arner (University of Hong Kong), Dan Azzi (L'Orient-Le Jour), & Navroop K. Sahdev (The Digital Economist) to discuss finance & complexity theory in the 21st Century. What is FinTech and how is it transforming finance, especially in the context of Asia? How is complexity economics transforming economics education? Why is it important to include a more plural, historical, and interdisciplinary perspective in our economics and finance education? How has COVID impacted trends, especially in FinTech? What should economists, especially in finance, learn from the currency-crisis in Lebanon?
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Jun 9, 2021 • 1h 1min
Chux Daniels, Susan Newman, Nathalie Lazaric and Verónica Robert - Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech - #010
This week we are joined by Chux Daniels (University of Sussex), Susan Newman (Open University UK), Nathalie Lazaric (CNRS), and Verónica Robert (UNSAM) to discuss disruptive technologies in the context of Africa and evolutionary economics. What kind of Science, Technology, and Innovation (STI) policies are being implemented in Africa? What are the strengths of the region? What is neo-Schumpeterian evolutionary economy and evolutionary political economy, and how does this relate to innovation? How do these and other more heterodox perspectives, such as complexity theory, see innovation differently from the neoclassical perspective? How does this relate to development, institutions, policymaking, inequality, and climate change?
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Jun 2, 2021 • 1h 6min
Jigar Bhatt, Gabriela Dutrénit, Beatriz Fialho and Gillian Marcelle - Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech - #009
For the ninth interview we are joined by Jigar Bhatt (independent scholar), Gabriela Dutrénit (Metropolitan Autonomous University), Beatriz Fialho (Bio-Manguinhos), and Gillian Marcelle (Resilience Capital Ventures) to talk about disruptive technology, especially Science, Technology, and Innovation (STI) policies in the context of Latin America. What are STI policies, and how do they relate to different schools of thought on development and innovation? Why should we reimagine innovation beyond only disruptive, high-tech innovation in labs, such as innovation in the informal economy? How does this relate to local knowledge, innovation management, infrastructure development, and bottlenecks in finance?

May 28, 2021 • 57min
You Are A Part Of The Economy Too | Rethinking with… Joe Earle
Joe Earle is the Chief Executive of Economy, which is a UK charity that works together with communities and individuals to make them aware that they are part of the economy. Together they work on the local issues and come up with solutions. We talk about what it takes to be and train a trainer, how they reach local communities and the skills you need to have a good company culture. Of course, we discuss a whole range of other things, but for that, we welcome you into the conversation! Happy to have you rethink with us, enjoy.
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May 26, 2021 • 1h 5min
Jeffrey Ding, Matt Sheehan, Helen Toner & Graham Webster - Socioeconomics of Disruptive Tech - #008
This week we are joined by Jeffrey Ding (University of Oxford), Matt Sheehan (MacroPolo), Helen Toner (CSET), and Graham Webster (Stanford University) to discuss disruptive technologies in the context of China, especially AI. How did China open-up and implement market-based policies since the 1980? What kind of innovation-policies has China been pursuing in technologies as AI, and how does this relate to the strategies pursued by the United States? How does this affect the US-China power-relations and security-concerns? Why are questions related to national advantage in AI so difficult to meaningfully answer? What are the best ways for students interested in China and AI to get involved with this important topic?
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