
The Deduction
The Deduction is your guide to the complicated world of tax and economics. From the impacts of tariffs and trade wars to debates over who pays and how much, each episode, our experts untangle another aspect of the tax code. Listen to the leading tax podcast! Have a question for one of our experts, let us know here: https://taxfoundation.org/mailbag. Follow us on Twitter @deductionpod: https://twitter.com/deductionpod
Latest episodes

Jun 2, 2025 • 25min
One, Big, Beautiful Bill: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Garett Watson, Director of Policy Analysis at the Tax Foundation, dives into the intricacies of the House GOP’s new tax package. He discusses the blend of permanent and temporary provisions, highlighting the impact on long-term investments. The conversation also explores the controversial state and local tax (SALT) deduction cap, analyzing its effects on high-income states. Watson stresses the need for tax stability and advocates for simplifying complex provisions to support a broader spectrum of taxpayers while fostering economic growth.

May 29, 2025 • 9min
Are Trump’s Tariffs Legal? Here’s What the Courts Say
It’s been a whirlwind 24 hours in tariff news: first, a trade court blocked Trump’s sweeping new tariffs, calling them executive overreach. Then, a federal appeals court reinstated them—at least for now. We break down what happened, what’s next, and why it matters.Support the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

May 20, 2025 • 17min
The One Big Beautiful Bill, Explained
Garett Watson, Director of Policy Analysis at the Tax Foundation, joins to dive deep into the House GOP's One Big Beautiful Bill, which seeks to make parts of the 2017 tax overhaul permanent. They discuss who stands to gain the most from this sweeping tax package and the broader economic implications. Watson sheds light on the delicate balance between stimulating growth and managing the national deficit. The conversation also touches on contentious issues like the SALT cap and the potential long-term effects on taxpayers.

May 7, 2025 • 39min
What Happens If Social Security Runs Out in 2035?
What happens when the country’s most important retirement program runs out of money? Social Security faces a funding crisis by 2035. We unpack how the system works, why it’s in trouble, and what fixes could keep it afloat.Kyle Hulehan and Erica York are joined by Alex Durante, Senior Economist at the Tax Foundation. Together, they break down the trade-offs behind today’s biggest Social Security reform ideas. Links: https://taxfoundation.org/blog/how-the-payroll-tax-base-has-changed-over-time/https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/social-security-reform-options/https://taxfoundation.org/blog/medicare-social-security-tax-spending-deficits/https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/us-debt-budget-taxes-spending-social-security-medicare/Support the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

Apr 4, 2025 • 23min
The Truth About Tariffs—Fact-Checking Trump’s Trade Claims
Do tariffs really level the playing field, or are they just bad economics? In this emergency episode, we fact-check the Trump administration’s claims that retaliatory tariffs make trade fairer. Kyle Hulehan and Erica York break down the flawed research behind these arguments, explain who actually pays for tariffs, and discuss their real impact on businesses and consumers. Links: https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-reciprocal-tariffs-calculations/https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-tariffs-prices-long-term-effects/https://taxfoundation.org/topics/tariffs-and-trade/Support the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

Apr 2, 2025 • 48min
Understanding the 5 Most Critical Tax Issues in Today’s Debate
What are the biggest tax stories shaping policy today—and what do they mean for you? In our 100th episode, we break down the five biggest tax stories, from the global tax deal to the looming expiration of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Kyle Hulehan and Erica York are joined by Daniel Bunn, President and CEO of Tax Foundation, and Garrett Watson, Director of Policy Analysis. We also dive into the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS and Science Act, the rise of flat taxes in states, and the role of tariffs in tax policy. Links: https://taxfoundation.org/podcast/all/understanding-property-taxes/https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/https://taxfoundation.org/blog/global-tax-agreement/https://taxfoundation.org/blog/flat-tax-state-income-tax-reform/https://taxfoundation.org/blog/inflation-reduction-act-ira-credits-repeal-reform/Support the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

Mar 5, 2025 • 18min
Understanding the Property Tax
With property tax bills on the rise, homeowners are searching for answers—and some even want to abolish the tax altogether. In this episode, we break down why property taxes are increasing, discuss common but flawed solutions, and explain why the property tax remains an economically efficient revenue source. Senior Policy Analyst Manish Bhatt joins hosts Kyle Hulehan and Erica York to explore levy limits, circuit breakers, and policy reforms that could provide relief without distorting the housing market. Links: https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/state/property-tax-relief-reform-options/https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/property-taxes-by-state-county/Support the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

Feb 11, 2025 • 26min
The High Stakes of Sports Betting Taxes
How should states approach the unique challenges and opportunities presented by sports betting? In this episode, Adam Hoffer, Director of Excise Tax Policy at the Tax Foundation, joins Kyle Hulehan to unpack the intricacies of sports betting tax policy during one of the biggest betting events of the year—Super Bowl 59.https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/state/sports-betting-tax-revenue/https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/sports-betting-taxes-by-state-2024/Support the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

Feb 5, 2025 • 19min
Trump’s Tariff War Returns
Are tariffs making everything more expensive? With Trump’s new tariff plans hitting $1.1 trillion in imports—far more than his first term—prices could rise for businesses and consumers alike.Kyle Hulehan and cohost Erica York break down who really pays for tariffs, why they hurt lower-income Americans most, and whether they worked the first time around. Links: Trump Tariffs: Tracking the Economic Impact of the Trump Trade WarQuestions About Tax Cuts, Tariffs, and Reconciliation After the ElectionWhy the Economic Effects of Taxes (Including Tariffs) MatterFive Things To Know About Trump’s Income Tax and Tariffs IdeaSupport the showFollow us!https://twitter.com/TaxFoundationhttps://twitter.com/deductionpodSupport the show

Jan 22, 2025 • 20min
Will Your Taxes Go Up? Best- and Worst-case Scenarios for Tax Reform in 2025
In a riveting discussion, Daniel Bunn, President and CEO of the Tax Foundation, sheds light on the looming changes in tax policy with tax cuts set to expire in 2025. Bunn emphasizes the potential for tax hikes impacting over 60% of filers, along with the urgent need for reforms to avoid fiscal crisis. He explores the prospects for bipartisan cooperation, the necessary principles of simplicity and transparency, and the significant real-life impacts of proposed reforms, including possible increases of up to $2,500 in tax bills.