

Movement Logic: Strong Opinions, Loosely Held
Dr. Sarah Court, PT, DPT and Laurel Beversdorf
Welcome to the Movement Logic Podcast, with yoga teacher and strength coach Laurel Beversdorf, and physical therapist Dr. Sarah Court. With over 30 years combined experience in the yoga, movement and physical therapy worlds, we believe in strong ideas, loosely held – which means we’re not hyping outdated movement concepts. Instead, we’re here with up-to-date and cutting-edge tools, evidence and ideas to help you as a mover and a teacher. Music: Makani by Scandinavianz & AXM
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Jun 26, 2024 • 14min
70: Do you need a deload week?
Welcome to Episode 70 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this inbetweenisode, Laurel answers the question, “Do you need a deload week?” In strength training, a deload week is a planned, periodic reduction in training intensity and/or volume. Spoiler: you probably don't need to plan deload weeks into your training, but listen more to find out!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024! It’s the only place you’ll get a discount on the course plus fun free bonus content along the way.Episode 32: Load & Volume: When is Enough Enough? When is it Too Much?Episode 39: RPE, 1 RM, 3 sets of 10, oh my?

Jun 12, 2024 • 1h 12min
69: Crack is Whack - Adam Meakins and A Modern Approach to Manual Therapy
Welcome to Episode 69 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this episode, Laurel and Sarah are joined by Adam Meakins, also known as The Sports Physio, to discuss his recent co-authored paper, “A modern way to teach and practice manual therapy.” Adam highlights the major issues in current manual therapy practice and education, as detailed in this extensively cited paper, which draws on decades of research. He also outlines what a modern, evidence-based approach to manual therapy could look like.In this episode you will learn: The distinction between clinician-centered and patient-centered care. How traditional manual therapy relies on pathoanatomical reasoning and what research reveals about its reliability and validity. The potential harms of traditional manual therapy, including the propagation of harmful, fragilizing, and disempowering narratives about the body. Why manual therapy treatments cannot precisely target individual joints and tissues, nor produce specific outcomes for those areas. How human biases, such as appeal to authority, sunk cost fallacies, cognitive dissonance, and big egos, hinder the evolution of beliefs and practices in manual therapy. Predictions for the future of manual therapy.And more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024! It’s the only place you’ll get a discount on the course plus fun free bonus content along the way.References:Laurel and Sarah’s interview on the Conspirituality Podcast - Episode 205: Dismantling Movement DogmaEpisode 62: Make McGill Make SenseEpisode 3: Massage MistruthsAdam Meakins’ publication - A modern way to teach and practice manual therapyAdam Meakins’ website

May 29, 2024 • 1h 7min
68: Promoting Movement Optimism
Welcome to Episode 68 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this episode, Sarah is joined by soon to be Doctor of Physical Therapy Adam McAtee, founder of Evidence-Based Pilates, a continuing education platform for Pilates instructors. Sarah and Adam discuss long and lean, whether Pilates can contribute to bone density improvement, and why the hundred is Sarah’s least favorite one.In this episode you will learn: Common myths often heard from clients and instructors alike about Pilates, including using lighter springs to strengthen smaller muscles Why Pilates instructors confuse aesthetics and functionality and how freeing it can be to let them go How the variety of Pilates styles now available is a positive, not a negative The relationship of Contrology to modern day Pilates Why it’s not that useful to your students and clients to name where all of your exercises come from The difference between instructor-centered care and client-centered care The importance of meeting clients where they are, even if you’re uncomfortable What heavy load could look like on a reformer instead of the typical endurance based exercises If anyone can make accurate claims about what the Hundred is for How any Pilates exercise might be useful for one particular populationAnd more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024! It’s the only place you’ll get a discount on the course plus fun free bonus content along the way.References:Evidence-Based PilatesEffectiveness of yoga and Pilates to improve bone density in adult women: a systematic review and meta-analysis

May 15, 2024 • 1h 32min
67: Popular Explanations for SI Joint Pain are Wrong, Says Science
Welcome to Episode 67 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this episode, Laurel and Sarah discuss what current science, versus outdated advice and conventional wisdom, have to say about the causes and solutions for sacroiliac joint (SIJ) pain. Learn what research says about whether or not the SIJ is an inherently robust or fragile structure, whether things like lots of stretching in yoga or joint laxity during pregnancy contribute to its instability, and what therapists can and cannot reliably know about the causes of SIJ pain.You will learn: The anatomy and biomechanics of the SIJ. How Sarah differentiates between low back pain and SIJ pain with her patients. What joint incongruency is and what therapists can and cannot know about joints through palpation. What amount of force is required to dislocate the SIJ. What SIJ form and force closure are, and how they are used to explain SIJ pain. Some common explanations, assessments, and treatments for SIJ pain that lack evidence. Why muscle testing is an unreliable way to assess muscle strength or weakness. The problem with muscle imbalance theories. How upper and lower cross syndrome theories —the idea that muscles can be “locked short” and “locked long”— has since been replaced by more contemporary research. What evidence-based tools we have to address SIJ pain.And more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024! It’s the only place you’ll get a discount on the course.Episode 21: Is the SI Joint Painful Due to Instability?Evidence-Based Diagnosis and Treatment of the Painful Sacroiliac JointThe sacroiliac joint – Victim or culpritA radiostereometric analysis of movements of the sacroiliac joints during the standingClinical tests of the sacroiliac joint.Effects of mobilization treatment on sacroiliac joint dysfunctionAssociation between the serum levels of relaxin and responses to the active straight leg raiseHigh-velocity, low-amplitude manipulation (HVLA) does not alter three-dimensional position of sacroiliac jointEffects of mobilization treatment on sacroiliac joint dysfunction syndrome

May 1, 2024 • 1h 18min
66: Dismantling Long and Lean Pt. 3
Welcome to Episode 66 of the Movement Logic podcast! This episode is Part 3 of our Dismantling Long and Lean series. In this episode, Sarah and Laurel discuss the origins of Pilates, Barre, and yoga, and the connections between each movement method’s origins and the concept of a Pilates body, a Barre body, and a yoga body.In this episode you will learn: The Pilates origin story, including its clear cut relationship to ballet and the ‘dancer body’ The problematic origin of the dancer body in the 1960s in New York and its influence on Pilates and barre The Barre origin story and the Lotte Berk Method How Lotte Berk’s approach was sanitized for future iterations Whether the teacher and the teachings can be separated Laurel and Sarah’s experiences with the yoga body in their teacher trainings Some essential differences between the yoga body and the Pilates or Barre body What we can all do going forward to dismantle this patriarchal dominance over womens’ bodiesAnd more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024! It’s the only place you’ll get a discount on the course plus fun free bonus content along the way.Reference Links:Maintenance Phase: Pilates episode1962 Sports Illustrated articleThe Predatory Genius: what do we do when great artists are also moral monstersPilates Anytime: What is a Pilates body?Lotte Berk WebsiteGX United: The down and dirty history of barre fitnessNY Times: From Shimmying to Standing on Your HeadThe Cut: The Secret Sexual History of the Barre WorkoutDance Magazine: The Cult of Thin

Apr 17, 2024 • 1h 1min
65: How to Exercise Safely When You're Injured
Welcome to Episode 65 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this episode, Sarah is delving into the topic of exercising while injured. Should you? Shouldn’t you? How do you know when, how much, and what kind to do?She takes you through a decision making strategy that will make this an easier question to tackle next time you are injured. Sarah also made a PDF Injury Decision Tree that you will receive as bonus content if you sign up for the 2024 Bone Density Course Wait List!Caveat: This episode is not medical advice and should not be taken as such.In this episode you will learn: Acute vs Chronic injuries - what’s the difference when it comes to exercise How different types of injury will impact your movement choices Your body’s mechanism of injury response at a tissue healing level The tissue healing timeline and what can speed it up or slow it down The role pain plays in injury and how it’s not a 1:1 ratio of injury to pain Situations where the best option actually is to rest What types of exercise are best depending on your level of injury Red flags to keep an eye out for that would require medical interventionAnd more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024! It’s the only place you’ll get a discount on the course. You’ll also get the PDF Injury Decision Tree in a future email to the list.Reference links:Episode 1: Movement vs Exercise vs SportEpisode 30: Mastering Physical Literacy with Dr. Chris Raynor, MDEpisode 62: Make McGill Make Sense

Apr 3, 2024 • 53min
64: Non-Diet Coaching & Silly Certification Tests with Damali Fraiser
Welcome to Episode 64 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this episode, Laurel is joined by non-diet kettlebell coach Damali Fraiser to talk about what it means to be an inclusive kettlebell coach. We also discuss why a coach's life experience and skills (and not their body) are their real business card. Finally, we get into silly certification tests that limit diversity in an industry that desperately needs more of it.In this interview you will learn: Why kettlebells are excellent tools for cultivating strength, power, and endurance. How the shape of a kettlebell makes it uniquely effective for training stability and moving in multi-planar ways. What it means to be a non-diet kettlebell coach. What building body trust means, and how grasping at some ideal, future body can sabotage some people’s ability to relate to and trust the body they currently have. What intersectionality is, and how understanding this concept can help us teach and coach in a way that is inclusive so that more people feel welcome in fitness. A critical look at a popular kettlebell certification system, StrongFirst, and a test they impose as a barrier to entry for certifying coaches—the 100 kettlebell snatches in 5 minutes test. How the fitness industrial complex negatively impacts folks who don’t conform to societal ideals and what we can do about it.And more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024!Reference links:Damali Fraiser's website

Mar 20, 2024 • 1h 24min
63: Dismantling Long and Lean Part 2
Welcome to Season 4 and Episode 63 of the Movement Logic podcast! This is part 2 of a much requested series titled Dismantling Long & Lean. In part 2, Laurel and Sarah discuss the phrase "long and lean" from a science-based, as well as sociological and racial perspective. They cover whether or not you can actually make anyone’s body “longer” and/or “leaner” through formats like Pilates and barre. Additionally, they unpack the harm that appealing to this narrowly, aesthetically-idealized body shape has on students and teachers. You will learn: Common code words used to show preference for thinness in exercise. Is there a way to make limbs or muscles longer? How do we change the shape of muscles? Can we make muscles tone without making them bulky? How hypertrophy works and whether or not Pilates or barre are particularly effective for building muscle. What does it mean to be bulky versus lean? The constrained energy model for metabolism and how it explains why exercise is a poor tool for weight loss and why it’s more complex than calories in and calories out. How human metabolism is a product of evolution, not engineering and more like a business on a budget rather than a car that runs on fuel. How the science of metabolism explains why exercise is so important for long term health and longevity. Whether building muscle makes you burn more calories at rest. That fast and slow metabolism doesn’t mean what people think it does. Whether or not you can burn fat specifically from “problem areas” on your body. How the transatlantic slave trade and the rise of Protestantism influenced the way we think about fatness and thinness. How fatphobia and a preference for thinness has been used to craft and reinforce racial, sexual, and socioeconomic hierarchies over the centuries. Why “long and lean” is to the 1990s and 2000s as “white and nordic” was to the 1800s and 1900s. Why using "long and lean" as a marketing ploy does harm to the teaching profession of Pilates and barre. And more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024!Reference links:Episode 60: Dismantling Long & Lean Pt. 1Burn: New Research Blows the Lid Off How We Really Burn Calories…Episode 43: Nutrition Facts vs. Fiction with Dr. Ben House, PhDFearing the Black Body…

Mar 6, 2024 • 2h 5min
62: Make McGill Make Sense
Welcome to episode 62 of the Movement Logic Podcast. In this episode, Sarah and Laurel discuss the recent interview of Dr. Stu McGill on Dr. Peter Attia’s podcast, The Drive. This interview has sparked a lot of internet commentary, so we’re breaking it down for you into what we’re calling Make McGill Make Sense.You will learn: Who are McGill and Attia, and why Attia is interviewing McGill McGill’s rigid (pun intended) views on powerlifters vs yogis and what each group should and should not do Why McGill “doesn’t believe” in non-specific low back pain, a well documented and researched phenomenon How the biopsychosocial model of pain doesn’t exist in his world view Why his fearmongering and moralizing approach to movement has been so successful How and why he leans into storytelling vs data around low back painAnd more!Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024!Links:Episode 29 The Cues We Use Part 1Episode 31 The Cues We Use Part 2Episode 34 The Cues We Use Part 3Episode 45 Injury and Safety in Strength and YogaEpisode 54 Alignment Dogma: Spinehttps://peterattiamd.com/stuartmcgill/https://www.backfitpro.com/https://rheumatology.org/patients/joint-replacement-surgery#Lancet Study age of hip replacementsEvidence for an Inherited Predisposition to Lumbar Disc DiseaseAdam Meakins on InstagramMcGill Big 3 on YouTube

Feb 21, 2024 • 1h 20min
61: Putting Conditioning Back Into Strength & Conditioning
Welcome to Season 4, Episode 61 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this episode, Laurel explores whether strength training alone suffices for health and longevity. She compares training stress, intensity, and adaptations of strength training versus high intensity interval training (HIIT) versus cardiorespiratory endurance training. Discover how both HIIT and cardio are forms of conditioning, and why both strength and conditioning are necessary "weekly human maintenance habits" for preventing chronic disease and promoting longevity.Sign up here to get on the Wait List for our next Bone Density Course in October 2024!You will also learn: What counts as exercise? Does HIIT promote strength or cardiorespiratory endurance or both? What is aerobic versus anaerobic conditioning? What role does cardiorespiratory fitness play in our strength gains and what role does strength play in our cardiorespiratory fitness gains? How strength training, HIIT, and cardio compare when considering the following: typical length of a session, work to rest ratios, relative intensities, common limitations to performance, and the specific adaptations each promotes. Is strength enough for health and longevity? Is walking conditioning? Can the fatigue cost of HIIT interfere with our ability to exercise enough throughout the week? What should we pay attention to specifically if we want to build strength with HIIT? What’s the best way to structure weekly strength and conditioning workouts, specifically when we want to do both on the same day?Reference links:Episode 6: How Much ‘Should” You ExerciseCDC guidelines on exerciseTalk testHigh-intensity interval training for health benefits…Episode 37: Plyometrics—Get More Bang For Your BonesEpisode 46: How Often Should You Strength Trainlll?Episode 32: Load & Volume…Episode 9: What Are The Best Exercises for Strength?Episode 23: Do We Really Need 10,000 Steps…?