

Crime Curious
Crime Curious Podcast
A true crime podcast where two friends’ journey through true crime cases in a lighthearted and in-depth way through the lens of a Judge and trained investigator. We give educated details without being boring to listen to. Enjoy!
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Aug 8, 2021 • 37min
56: The April Millsap Case
April Millsap was a 14 year old girl in Michigan walking her dog Penny when she was brutally murdered. Take a listen to hear how her fitness tracking app on her phone significantly helped to solve her case.
Music By: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell
https://missingsouls.com/girl-who-solved-her-own-murder-with-fitness-app-april-millsap/
On the Case with Paula Zahn. It’s season 14 episode 7, titled ‘Path of Tears.’
April Millsap | Murdered | Crimes and Consequences Podcast | Listen (tntcrimes.com)
April Millsap Murdered: Man charged with murdering Armada, Michigan teen - CBS News
The key to the April Millsap case is her dog, Penny – The Context Of Things

Aug 5, 2021 • 36min
55: The Angel’s Of Delphi
Amber is wrapping up her small town secrets week with the horrific unsolved murders of two beautiful girls in the small town of Delphi Indiana. Take a listen to hear the details and information of how you might be able to help!
Sources:
https://youtu.be/-8OBeidiJ1E
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Abigail_Williams_and_Liberty_German
https://youtu.be/7LIzbat_ktM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/comments/64gxk0/delphi_murders_write_up_overview_and_theories/
https://youtu.be/kmPJr6hvmGc
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/delphi-murders-connected-nearby-kidnapping-case-sheriff/story%3fid=77364836

Aug 1, 2021 • 1h 16min
54: The Good Hart Murders
Amber brings to light some small town secrets in our own home state! You won't believe the horrific story of the murder of the entire Robison family that is still "unsolved" (but we have a good idea who did it).
Sources: https://www.9and10news.com/2021/02/04/unsolved-the-robison-family-murders/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.northernexpress.com/amp/news/feature/case-closed/
https://www.mlive.com/news/2018/10/50_years_after_michigan_family.html
https://share.crimedoor.com/profile/yL5ppvxVZ5IGbX0WOO3g
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robison_family_murders
When Evil Came to Good Hart by Mardi Link, narrated by JoBe Cerny on my Audible app. Try Audible and get it here:
https://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B01EBADY66&source_code=ASSORAP0511160006
Music By: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art: Charnell

Jul 29, 2021 • 2h 5min
53: Under The Patio Part Two
The conclusion of one of England's worst criminals, Fred and Rose West. See Episode 52 for complete description and to hear part one.
Music By:
Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell
Love As Always, Mum By: Mae West and Neil McKay
Fred and Rose By: Howard Sounes
The Lost Girl By: Caroline Roberts.
Who was Fred West's first wife Catherine 'Rena' Costello and what happened to her? - Gloucestershire Live
Fred West - Wikipedia

Jul 25, 2021 • 1h 43min
52: Under The Patio
This is a doozy everyone so grab a stiff drink or a strong cup of joe, because Charnell does a deep dive into the sexually depraved and murderous ways of Fred and Rose West who are said to be worse than the acts of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. There are 12 victims that are found and knowns, although investigators know there are more out there that still have yet to be found. Take a listen to hear the case not only from the timeline of events, but also from the one of the couples surviving children and what it was like for her as the case broke and aftermath.
Music By: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell
Sources:
Love As Always, Mum By: Mae West and Neil McKay
Fred and Rose By: Howard Sounes
The Lost Girl By: Caroline Roberts
Who was Fred West's first wife Catherine 'Rena' Costello and what happened to her? - Gloucestershire Live
Fred West - Wikipedia

Jul 22, 2021 • 1h 20min
51: Well Deserved
Tom and Jackie Hawks were just two people who were incredibly in love and setting out to sell their Yacht, "Well Deserved" so they could move closer to their first grandchild. The sale did not go as planned when three people overtake the boat. Make no mistake that the judge and jury made sure their sentence was "Well Deserved" as well. Take a listen to hear what has to be one of the most ridiculous plots for murder and thieving out there.
Sources:
https://youtu.be/ZgiKfbntndw
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-mystery-dark-voyage-12-06-2010/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Thomas_and_Jackie_Hawks
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/skylar-deleon-sentenced-death-murders-tom-jackie-hawks-68365136
https://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/deleon-skylar.htm
Music By: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell

Jul 18, 2021 • 51min
50: He’s No Captain America
Julian Harvey seemed to have it all going for him. Beauty, brawn, and a decorated war hero and more lives than a cat considering all the "accidents" he managed to live through and benefit financially from. That is until he and his 6th wife take a voyage on the Bluebelle , a beautiful Yacht that was chartered by the Dupperault family for a Bahamas cruise and things go terribly wrong. Take a listen to hear how one small girl dubbed by the press as "the sea waif" manages to take this strapping con artist down once and for all.
Music By Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell
"Psycho USA: Famous American Killers You Never Heard Of" by Harold Schechter. Copyright © 2012 by Harold Schechter.
Bluebelle's last voyage: A true crime | Salon.com
Bluebelle (ship) - Wikipedia

Jul 15, 2021 • 58min
49: Womb Raiders: The Debra Evans Case
Debra Evans was a single mother of 3 and about to give birth to her 4th child when she became a victim of "womb raiders". She was set to deliver her sweet baby boy in only three days when her own relatives held her down, cut her child out of her womb and murdered her. Take a listen to hear how they didn't stop at Debra and the miracle of her surviving two children.
Jacqueline Williams - She Shot Her - Then Cut The Fetus From Her Body (wickedwe.com)
AT WARD SENTENCING HEARING, VICTIMS' FAMILY DESCRIBES PAIN - Chicago Tribune
The Murder Of Debra Evans & Her Children - Morbid N' Macabre™️ (morbidnmacabre.com)
CAFFEY v. BUTLER | FindLaw
Crime Profile: The Debra Evans Case (thoughtco.com) Jacqueline Williams | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
Music by: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art by: Charnell

Jul 11, 2021 • 1h 3min
48: Pregnant But Not Expecting
What happens when two 18 years old adults accidentally make a baby and are in total denial about the entire thing? Well they commit murder of course. Take a listen to hear how parental money, the lack of a justice system and good lawyers all come together for a perfect storm of injustice.
Sources:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/remember-amy-grossberg-and-brian-peterson/1859982/%3famp
https://www.amazon.com/Always-Our-Hearts-Grossberg-Pregnancy/dp/0312973098
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/death-dumpster-175278%3famp=1
https://murderpedia.org/female.G/g/grossberg-amy.htm
https://nypost.com/2005/02/07/killers-new-life-baby-slayer-brian-has-it-good-in-fla/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Grossberg_and_Brian_Peterson
Music By: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell

Jul 8, 2021 • 1h 10min
47: The Murder of Lisa Straub and Johnny Clarke
This year marks the 10 year anniversary of the brutal murders of 20 year old Lisa Straub and her 21 year old boyfriend, Johnny Clarke. Still after 10 years and one conviction there are still people scared to come forward and tell what they know. The convicted killer Sam Williams maintains his innocence and that he was set up. Take a listen to hear the details to decide for yourself.
Music By: Jonas Bjornstad
Cover Art By: Charnell
State v. Williams (ohio.gov)
Sam Williams convicted murders Johnny Clark Lisa Straub 2011 | wtol.com
Williams charged for Clarke-Straub murders, Straub family calls for death sentence | wtol.com
Answers sought in murder of young Ohio couple - CBS News
Johnny Clarke Sastraub was killed in a double murder in Ohio in 2011 - Ohio News Time