Li Jin and Nathan Baschez interview Erik Berlin and Leah Culver, the co-founders of Breaker, a social podcasting app. Breaker was founded in 2017 and is the only podcast app on the market built around social discovery. They’ve also expanded to enable podcasters to host and monetize their content.We cover topics including:- What is needed to make podcasting mainstream in the US?- What was the original thesis behind Breaker, and how has it evolved over time?- Spotify's podcasting strategy- Paid/subscription podcasts- What are the learnings from Luminary Media?- What innovations in the open podcasting ecosystem are needed? Means of Creation is brought to you by the Everything bundle!Related links: www.breaker.audioeverything.substack.comShow theme music: Compassion by Stefan Kartenberg

Lenny Rachitsky is a writer, creator, angel investor, and who recently spent 7 years at Airbnb, where he led supply growth. He now writes a popular business/tech newsletter, covering product, growth, people management, and other business/tech topics. In this video, he discusses when creators should monetize.Means of Creation is a weekly conversation hosted by Li Jin and Nathan Baschez to unpack the passion economy. Li is the founder of Atelier, a new venture fund investing in the passion economy; Nathan is a writer, strategy researcher and a founder Everything, a business-writing bundle that includes his newsletter Divinations.Means of Creation is hosted live on Zoom every Friday at 11 PST. The first 30 minutes of the show is a fireside chat, and the latter half is Q&A with the audience. You can listen to the full conversation on Apple Podcasts and Spotify or at https://meansofcreation.substack.com/Show theme music: Compassion by Stefan Kartenberg

Show theme music: Compassion by Stefan Kartenberg

Show theme music: Compassion by Stefan Kartenberg