

School of War
Nebulous Media
This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history. Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and former China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras. The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader. Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.Visit our Substack for episode transcriptsFollow along on Instagram
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Jun 14, 2022 • 48min
Ep 33: Steven Pressfield on the Truth about War
Steven Pressfield, author of A Man at Arms and Gates of Fire, joins the show to talk about writing historical fiction, telling the truth about war, and why the hardest part of art is “doing the work” .▪️Times • 01:38 Introduction • 03:49 Why Historical Fiction? • 08:25 Creating The “Distant Mirror” • 12:12 Special Forces • 14:17 Characters • 19:44 A Man at Arms • 22:01 Post-Warrior Life • 23:46 The Warrior Ethos • 27:20 Society Needs, But Doesn’t Want, Warriors • 32:52 Citizen-Soldier • 34:10 Reading History • 37:48 Characters Are Uncovered, Not Made • 40:19 The War Of Art • 45:52 Telling Stories

Jun 7, 2022 • 49min
Ep 32: Barry S. Strauss on Actium
Barry Strauss, Bryce and Edith M. Bowmar Professor in Humanistic Studies at Cornell University, joins the show to talk about Octavian, Antony, and Cleopatra, and the battle of Actium, the clash that “made the Roman Empire”.Times • 02:04 Introduction • 02:36 Events Leading To Actium • 07:45 What Breaks The Second Triumvirate • 13:29 Strategy Is Not Sterile • 15:04 Antony’s Will, Octavian’s Weapon • 20:24 Caesar’s Inheritance • 22:42 Audacious Agrippa • 25:26 Ancient Marines And War In The Mediterranean • 31:18 Breakout Is Victory • 38:27 Antony In Defeat • 42:16 End Game

May 31, 2022 • 58min
Ep 31: Rich Goldberg on Economic Sanctions and Financial Warfare
Rich Goldberg, senior advisor at The Foundation for Defense of Democracies and host of both the Cryptonite podcast and Jewish Insider’s Limited Liability podcast, joins the show to talk about economic sanctions and financial warfare.Times • 01:30 Introduction• 08:19 The Dollar Is Still King• 10:10 Access Is Everything• 13:00 Whom Do Sanctions Effect • 15:42 Uneasy Lies The Head That Wears A Crown• 21:50 Warfare By Other Means• 30:20 Working With Allies• 38:33 Exquisite Calibration • 43:42 Usurping The Power Of The Dollar• 49:02 Integrated Deterrence • 51:01 The Potency Of Sanctions

May 24, 2022 • 1h 9min
Ep 30: Guy MacLean Rogers on The Jewish Revolt
Guy MacLean Rogers, William R. Kenan, Jr. Professor of History and Classical Studies at Wellesley College and author of For the Freedom of Zion: The Great Revolt of Jews Against Romans, 66-74CE, joins the show to talk about the great uprising of the Jewish people against Rome—including moments that resonate to the present day, like the destruction of the Temple at Jerusalem and the siege of Masada. Times • 02:20 Introduction • 04:21 The Jewish Revolt In Roman History • 08:09 Flavius Josephus • 13:41 Herod the Great • 22:29 Little Causes, Big Revolt • 26:40 The Leadership Of Rebellion • 30:11 Jewish Strategy And Logistics • 35:03 Vespasian • 41:04 The Temple • 50:01 The End of the Sacrificial Cult • 52:01 Destruction of the Temple • 56:00 The End Of The Revolt • 1:01:02 Josephus’ Speeches • 1:06:13 Could The Jews Have Won?

May 17, 2022 • 48min
Ep 29: Wesley Morgan on Afghanistan, Part 2 of 2
Wesley Morgan, journalist and author of The Hardest Place: The American Military Adrift in Afghanistan's Pech Valley, joins the show to discuss his experiences in the Pech valley, one of Afghanistan’s most contested battlegrounds, and to talk about the U.S. counterinsurgency’s successes and failures. Times • 01:25 Illicit Economies • 04:13 Green Berets And CIA “Lost The Forest For The Trees” In Kunar • 06:57 Who Is Jim Gant? • 11:36 Self-Aware Proxy Warriors • 13:42 Counterinsurgency Styles and Outpost Building • 20:44 Central Government - Whether They Want It Or Not • 33:18 Cash For Calm - Paying For Peace • 37:22 War Winds Down In The Pech • 41:30 The Afghan House Of Cards Collapses • 44:13 A Tired Afghan Army With No Good Options

May 10, 2022 • 36min
Ep 28: Wesley Morgan on Afghanistan, Part 1 of 2
Ep 28: Wesley Morgan on AfghanistanWesley Morgan, journalist and author of The Hardest Place: The American Military Adrift in Afghanistan's Pech Valley, joins the show to discuss his experiences in the Pech Valley, one of Afghanistan’s most contested battlegrounds, and to talk about the U.S. counterinsurgency’s successes and failures. This episode is part 1 of 2.Times
02:52 Introduction
04:28 From Princeton to The Pech
07:25 The Age Dynamic
09:46 Fighting Styles In Helmand Province
12:42 The Episodic Nature Of Fighting In Afghanistan
13:42 The Terrain Of The Pech Valley
17:11 Seeking Bin Laden In Kunar
18:43 Kafiristan - Daniel Dravot’s Dream
20:27 Special Forces - A Tool For Every Task
24:21 The Role Of Seal Team Six and Delta Force
29:36 Seeking The Enemy
31:23 Who Was The Enemy In The Pech?
33:58 The Timber Mafia

May 3, 2022 • 57min
Ep 27: Fred Kagan on Ukraine II
Ep 27: Fred Kagan on Ukraine IIFred Kagan, Senior Fellow and Director of Critical Threats Project at AEI, joins the show to discuss where the war in Ukraine stands, how initial Russian designs failed, and where the conflict is headed.Times
02:14 Introduction
03:22 Accurate Predictions
06:45 The Baffling Russian Attack on Kyiv
08:36 A River Runs Through…The Russian Plan
10:22 Operational Design 101
13:22 Back To Basics - Reading Terrain Still Matters
16:33 Russian Objectives In The East
21:51 Russian Command And Control
26:29 Ukrainian Strikes On Senior Russian Officers
28:38 Russian Objectives In The South
33:06 Putin Still Seeking Total Victory?
36:42 Russian Game-plan For The South Coast
39:18 Transnistria
42:27 False Flags - Putin’s Comfort Zone
44:01 Moldovan Capabilities
47:46 Force Is A Kind Of Failure
50:47 Putin’s Options
54:48 Deterrence And Nuclear Taboos
Ukraine Maps 05/02/2022 per ISW

Apr 26, 2022 • 1h 3min
Ep 26: Andrew Lambert on the Crimean War
Ep 26: Andrew Lambert on the Crimean War Andrew Lambert, Laughton Professor of Naval History in the Department of War Studies, King's College, joins the show to discuss the Crimean War, including why it shouldn’t have been called by that name. Professor Lambert also explains the relevance of the Crimean War to today’s war in Ukraine.Times • 01:28 Introduction• 02:20 Causes of the Crimean War• 07:57 Flashpoint in the Holy Land• 12:31 Steamships and Strategy• 16:34 Functional Dysfunction in Policymaking• 21:44 Why Target Sevastopol?• 26:44 What Went Wrong• 31:47 The Press and Public Opinion• 36:31 Reading Events Incorrectly • 38:57 The Baltic Campaign• 45:30 Mahan and Corbett Interpret the War• 48:39 Ukraine War - An Echo of the Crimean War• 55:34 Can Russia Re-Integrate Into The Global Community? • 58:32 Will Putin Use Tactical Nuclear Weapons?

Apr 12, 2022 • 45min
Ep. 25: Waller Newell on Putin and Tyranny
Waller Newell, Professor of Political Science and Philosophy at Carleton University, joins the show to discuss tyranny and tyrants—and Vladimir Putin in particular. Times
02:05 Introduction
03:43 Let's talk about Vladimir Putin
05:40 What is the Russian "Soul"?
07:19 Quote from "The Russian Idea"
08:40 Who was Nikolai Berdyaev?
09:54 Is Berdyaev an influence on Aleksandr Dugin?
11:05 The West has a hard time understanding non-economic motivations. Why?
13:06 Who is Aleksandr Dugin?
15:21 “Eurasian Nationalist Bolshevism”
16:55 Rehabilitating Stalin
18:40 Are we seeing a perpetuation of Tsarist Russia?
20:40 What is fascism?
22:35 The many types of tyranny
25:12 What kind of tyrant is Putin?
26:50 Why has millenarian tyranny appeared so relatively recently in history?
29:51 The relationship between liberalism and millenarian tyranny
31:25 The next ten years in Russia
34:00 Did Putin know what he was getting himself into in Ukraine?
35:36 The prospect of Russian and Chinese collaboration in the future
36:55 Who drives Chinese policy - Xi Jinping or the Chinese Communist Party?
38:56 Staying sane while studying tyrants
42:10 What should we be reading to better recognize hostile actors for what they are?

Apr 5, 2022 • 39min
Ep. 24: Richard Overy on World War II
Richard Overy, professor of history at the University of Exeter, joins the show to discuss World War II and the wars of imperial aggression.Times
02:23 - Introduction
04:24 - Imperialism prior to World War II
06:00 - Nations as empires
08:32 -Traditional imperialism versus the Axis Powers' concept
11:02 - Who is Halford Mackinder?
13:14 - The development of Germany's vision of empire
14:36 - German war aims in World War I and World War II
17:02 - Germany and the East
22:16 - The Japanese vision of empire
25:01 - How Japan modernization
26:33 - Japan's methods of rule
27:50 - American and the USSR
34:06 - World War II book recommendations