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Today's guests Joyce Short and Nina Lucas represent the organization known as The Consent Awareness Network, which is fighting for sexual abuse survivors by codifying consent in our penal codes as a freely given, knowledgeable, and informed agreement. Joyce is the founder and Chief Executive of the Consent Awareness Network, she's also an author, and a TEDx Talk Presenter. Joyce has been an expert witness and the architect of several legislative bills that can radically change how consent is dealt with by our justice system. She’s been featured on Nightline, CBS News, and The New York Times, as well as being quoted in books and journals, including “The Moment” by Andrea Constand. Joyce has been honored as a 'Woman of Distinction" by the NY State Assembly. Nina serves as Chief of Staff and a Consent Outreach Ambassador for The Consent Awareness Network and is also a member of Never Alone Advocacy, which was founded to fight back against abuse of power in the military. As a classically trained singer, Nina's secret superpower is opera and she is dedicated to applying her robust voice to inform, educate and empower wherever she can in all efforts to codify consent. In this highly informative and revelatory discussion, Joyce and Nina outline the messy and ineffective history of consent and sexual assault laws in the U.S. through the lens of their own personal experiences with the failures of our current justice system. They explain how legally defining consent will ultimately help create a more just outcome for survivors of sexual abuse. Throughout the conversation, Rachel points out the ways that our current laws specifically prevent cult survivors from seeking justice and accountability for their perpetrators. Before You Go: Rachel explains the impediments to common sense consent laws, noting how ineffective they are when taking into account the body's natural inclination to freeze up in the face of traumatic situations. More Info on CAN here: www.consentawareness.net Joyce's TEDx TALK: https://bit.ly/DefineConsent Joyce's Book: http://bit.ly/YourConsentE Follow Joyce on IG: https://www.instagram.com/yourconsent/?hl=en Follow Nina on IG: https://www.instagram.com/standfirmvoice/?hl=en SIGN THE PETITION HERE: http://bit.ly/BillPetition CONTACT CAN: bit.ly/ConsentAmbassador #FGKIA #CodifyConsent You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this first episode of our new Patreon exclusive tribute series, we are covering the highly knowledgeable, and often hilarious James Randi. James Randi was a Canadian-American stage magician, author, and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. He was the co-founder of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation. Randi began his career as a magician under the stage name The Amazing Randi and later chose to devote most of his time to investigating paranormal, occult, and supernatural claims, which he collectively called "woo-woo" He wrote about paranormal phenomena, skepticism, and the history of magic. He was a frequent guest on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, famously exposing fraudulent faith healer Peter Popoff. Before Randi's retirement, his foundation sponsored the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, which offered a prize of one million US dollars to eligible applicants who could demonstrate evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event under test conditions agreed to by both parties. James was a kind and brilliant man, who sadly passed away in 2020 but his impact still looms large and we are excited to share some of our thoughts on him as well as some of his ideas in his own words in this episode. Find more info on Randi and his foundation at: https://web.randi.org/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Kacey is the host and creator of The Cult Vault, an award-nominated long-form interview-based podcast focusing on the true testimonies of cult survivors. Kacey began her podcast during the COVID-19 lockdown, which coincided with her maternity leave. At first, it was intended to be focused on researching cult cases from history and presenting them to those who might be interested in listening. But as survivors began reaching out she realized her platform had turned into something more - a place for stories to be told and for Kacey and her listeners to learn about cult dynamics from those who have most closely experienced them. In this exciting crossover episode, the two podcast hosts compare and contrast their experiences of publicly interviewing cult survivors from dozens of different groups. Kacey offers personal insights on her work, explaining the importance of embracing the learning curve inherent when diving into the world of cults head first, while Rachel details her preferred methodology in therapeutic settings for her clients as well as when conducting interventions with the families of those ensnared in dangerous high-control groups or relationships. Before You Go: Rachel emphasizes the importance of allyship in the cult survivor community from people not impacted personally, explaining how it strengthens the movement and creates meaningful bonds among supporters and survivors alike. You can find more about Kacey's podcast The Cult Vault here: https://www.cultvaultpodcast.com/ You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Tracy Coenen has been investigating fraud for more than 25 years, but she didn’t always want to be a forensic accountant. She went to Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI to get a criminology degree. A class on financial crime investigations reminded her how much she loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid. She continued her criminology degree but added accounting and economics courses so she could sit for the CPA exam. Today, Tracy is finding money in cases of corporate fraud, high-net-worth divorce, and other financial shenanigans. She's the founder of pinktruth.com which provides information-sharing about the truth of multi-level marketing companies that prey upon women. The focus is mostly on Mary Kay Cosmetics but also covers other pyramid schemes and MLMs. Tracy is also the creator of The Divorce Money Guide, which has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Business Journal, and many more major media outlets. In this unique and important conversation, Tracy explains how her personal experience as a Mary Kay consultant led her to uncover the fraudulent practices of multi-level marketing groups and brought her to a career in forensic accounting. Rachel discusses with Tracy the similarities inherent in survivors of high-control groups and personal relationships with regard to lack of transparency and manipulative financial practices, Together Rachel and Tracy offer ways for people to protect themselves from financial abuse in both relationships and business ventures. Before You Go: Rachel addresses the misleading financial terminology and framing that manipulative groups and even partners may use to obscure malicious intent regarding financial control. Find out more about Tracy's work here: https://www.fraudcoach.com/divorcemoneyguide Find out more about Mary Kay here: https://www.pinktruth.com You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Ruwan Meepagala is a podcaster and coach. In his early twenties, he became involved in the matriarchal cult, known as One Taste, which was recently covered in the Netflix documentary Orgasm Inc. Ruwan describes his time with the group as one of the most formative experiences of his life, giving him a crash course in some of the darker parts of human nature. The memoir of his years in the cult, along with his other writing and podcasts can be found at: https://ruwando.substack.com/ In this revealing and insightful discussion, Ruwan opens up to Rachel about his time in One Taste outlining the more dangerous aspects of the high-control group, while maintaining the positive aspects of empowerment and self-confidence he experienced. He goes on to share how the group's leader Nicole Daedone, who is still under investigation by the FBI conducted her "orgasmic meditation" business. Throughout the conversation, Rachel points out the cognitive dissonance may cult survivors feel as they struggle to hang on to the helpful practices or ideas they learned in an otherwise destructive group. Before You Go: Rachel expands on the seemingly counter-intuitive notion of survivors holding on to certain positive aspects learned from their time in high control groups. She offers up tools for figuring out what ideas to abandon and what lessons to remember. Watch the trailer for Orgasm Inc. here: https://youtu.be/11DiQzSLfmo Find more about Ruwan's story here: https://ruwando.substack.com/ You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Once again, this week we'd like to encourage everyone to allow themselves some grace and self-care during the upcoming holiday season. No matter your religious background or your family situation, these cold winter weeks can be very stressful for everyone for a variety of reasons and it's important to take a step back and give yourself a break whenever possible and in whatever way you can. So to follow our own advice, we are taking a moment to rejuvenate ourselves and make plans for all the amazing shows we have coming up for you in the new year. So, today in place of a new episode we are re-airing one of our favorite episodes from our exclusive Patreon archive. This episode is Rachel's chat from 2018 with Tory Christman. Tory is a prominent American critic of Scientology and a former member of the organization. Christman turned to Scientology after being introduced to the book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health. She identified with concepts described in the book including the idea of attaining the Scientology state of clear and became a member of the organization in 1969. Since leaving Tori has become one of Scientology's greatest critics amassing millions of views on her Youtube channel and speaking out in a variety of media on the dangers of the organization. Our exclusive Patreon archive also features our early interviews with Janja Lalich, Tony Ortega, Chris Shelton, and many more. If you'd like to gain access to our first 50 episodes which are available only in this archive, as well as all of our bonus episodes and more, please consider becoming a member at: patreon.com/indoctrination. You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC67JLTD22dSnVadqXKcYPcA You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Frances Peters is a Certified Academic Coach/Counselor at her own practice FreeChoice in the Netherlands. She was born into a destructive group with a Christian background and left in 2004 with her husband and their two children. Frances has helped many former members to reclaim their lives. Frances has written magazine articles about the influence of cult behavior on identity development and the dark side of religion. Between 2011-2018 she co-hosted a support group for former members of destructive groups and relationships – OwnFreeChoice Praatcafe. Since 2015 she has been part of the Open Minds Foundation. She regularly speaks at Universities and national and international conferences, such as the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA), Studiecentrum Bedrijf en Overheid (SBO) in the NL, and Radicalisation Awareness Network (RAN) In the second half of their informative discussion, Frances explains to Rachel the feelings of confusion and isolation she and her family felt after leaving behind their whole community. The two colleagues go on to discuss the Stronger After Foundation as well as the work she does in her own practice Free Choice Recovery. You can learn more about Frances and her work here: www.stronger-after.org/ More about her practice can be found here: www.freechoice-recovery.com/ Thanks to all of our supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week we'd like to encourage everyone to allow themselves some grace and self-care during the upcoming holiday season. No matter your religious background or your family situation, these cold winter weeks can be very stressful for everyone for a variety of reasons and it's important to take a step back and give yourself a break whenever possible and in whatever way you can. So to follow our own advice, we are taking a moment to rejuvenate ourselves and make plans for all the amazing shows we have coming up for you in the new year. So, today in place of a new episode we are re-airing one of our favorite episodes from our exclusive Patreon archive. This episode is Rachel's chat from 2019 with Matthew Remski. Matthew is the co-host of the popular Conspirituality podcast and is a cult survivor and researcher. His 2019 book, Practice and All is Coming: Abuse, Cult Dynamics and Healing in Yoga and Beyond, is the first systematic analysis of pervasive cultism in the modern yoga world. He researches and writes on abuse in spiritual movements here, as well as for publications like GEN by Medium and The Walrus. His current research is pivoting to look at cultic dynamics in conspirituality and eco-justice movements. His upcoming book entitled Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat is available for pre-order now at: https://www.conspirituality.net/book Our exclusive Patreon archive also features our early interviews with Janja Lalich, Tony Ortega, Chris Shelton, and many more. If you'd like to gain access to our first 50 episodes which are available only in this archive, as well as all of our bonus episodes and more, please consider becoming a member at: patreon.com/indoctrination. You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC67JLTD22dSnVadqXKcYPcA You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Sarah Landry is a Canadian jewelry artist who has made it her mission in life to expose the criminal activity of “Nithyananda,” a con artist whom she once called “guru. Sarah spent nine years in a destructive cult led by the fraudulent "swami" She fell into the trap of this dangerous organization in Vancouver in 2009, believing it to be a yoga and meditation academy. Once in, the group tightened control over her life to the point that she was pressured to take the vow of monasticism in 2015, at the age of 30, and only then, discovered the darkness behind the scenes. In 2018, she learned that children living in the ashram were regularly beaten, starved, sleep deprived, and verbally berated as punishment for failure to perform onstage and con people out of money through the demonstration of fake "third eye powers." It took her a year to deprogram and get the courage to speak out, but on September 11, 2019, she went public with a post on Facebook and a video on YouTube detailing the child abuse. Since then, Sarah has been the target of a massive character assassination attempt by the group she once wholeheartedly served. They have called her an agent of the Catholic church and accused her of such crimes as the attempted assassination of the cult leader, rape, war profiteering, and genocide. She is (obviously) innocent of all these trumped-up accusations, and much to the chagrin of those trying to silence her, she continues to speak out against the crimes and abuse of Nithyananda and his brainwashed followers. Sarah returns to the show to update Rachel on the ongoing saga of a dangerous cult leader still on the run from INTERPOL and the Indian authorities, she explains what it's been like coping with the attacks on her by the cult's followers as she almost singlehandedly raises awareness of Nithyananda in the mainstream media in an effort to finally bring justice to the numerous victims of his, many of whom have been suffering in silence because of the vindictive attacks whistleblowers receive. Before you Go: Rachel explains how cult leaders will deflect accusations by personally attacking the accusers, often by labeling them as "attention seekers" in an effort to distract the public from their criminal and immoral activity. Listen to Sarah's previous conversations with Rachel here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/sets/sarah-landry-indoctrination Find more information on Sarah's website here: https://www.sarahlandry.ca/ You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC67JLTD22dSnVadqXKcYPcA You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Frances Peters is a Certified Academic Coach/Counselor at her own practice FreeChoice in the Netherlands. She was born into a destructive group with a Christian background and left in 2004 with her husband and their two children. Frances has helped many former members to reclaim their lives. Frances has written magazine articles about the influence of cult behavior on identity development and the dark side of religion. Between 2011-2018 she co-hosted a support group for former members of destructive groups and relationships – OwnFreeChoice Praatcafe. Since 2015 she has been part of the Open Minds Foundation. She regularly speaks at Universities and national and international conferences, such as the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA), Studiecentrum Bedrijf en Overheid (SBO) in the NL, and Radicalisation Awareness Network (RAN) In this informative discussion, Frances explains to Rachel how her upbringing as a Jehovah's Witness was the catalyst for her to pursue the counseling work she does today. Throughout the conversation, the two experienced colleagues discuss their insights from years of helping people leave and recover from high control groups. You can learn more about Frances and her work here: https://www.stronger-after.org/ Thanks to all of our supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy