IndoctriNation

Jon Atack, a former member of Scientology and an expert on authoritarian groups, shares his insights as an author and historian. He explores the psychological dynamics that trap individuals in cults, emphasizing how leaders manipulate doctrines for control. The conversation dives into the origins of various 20th-century cults linked to figures like Madame Blavatsky and discusses the consequences of belief in harmful ideologies, including the Nazi occult. Atack also critiques modern education's failure to teach critical thinking, vital for evaluating authority and preventing harm.

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon-exclusive bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein discusses the challenges of rediscovering one's identity after leaving a cult or a controlling relationship. The episode emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, defining personal values, and rebuilding a sense of self through various techniques such as journaling, exploring passions, and seeking feedback from trusted individuals. It underscores the emotional and psychological impacts of identity loss, including anxiety, depression, and social isolation, while offering practical advice and encouragement for those on this journey. Rachel also highlights the significance of community support, professional help, and setting healthy boundaries as essential steps in this transformative process.Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Rachel Bernstein welcomes Timothy Heffelbower to discuss his experiences with Teen Mania Ministries and the Honor Academy. Timothy shares his journey from being heavily involved in the organization to the challenges and realizations he faced after leaving. They touch on the pressures of maintaining strict schedules, the emphasis on sacrifice and delayed gratification, and the impact such an environment has on one's mental health and life decisions. Timothy also opens up about his personal life, including his family dynamics and career struggles, highlighting the ongoing effects of his time with Teen Mania. This episode provides a deep dive into the complexities of life after a high-control group and the path towards healing and self-worth.Timothy’s LinksInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/chasing_trains_book?igsh=MTF2MHZoMjl0aWs4Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, host Rachel Bernstein welcomes back Pamela Nickel Williams, an educator and author who was born into Scientology. Pamela revisits her life story, from her parents' involvement with L. Ron Hubbard in the late 1950s to her own harrowing experiences within the church. She discusses her memoir, 'Clearly Lies Are True,' which chronicles her journey as a cult and sexual abuse survivor. Pamela also touches on the emotional challenges of writing her book, reconciling her memories, and the importance of breaking the silence around abuse. The conversation delves into the psychological parallels between cult indoctrination and sexual abuse, shedding light on the hidden struggles of those ensnared in systems of control. The episode is a powerful testament to resilience, healing, and the ongoing fight for truth and justice.Pamela's LinksBook Website: https://www.clearlyliesaretrue.com/Clearly Lies Are True (Amazon): https://www.amazon.ca/Clearly-Lies-Pamela-Nickel-Williams/dp/B0FMS9KF55/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/2phjesuDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIn the continuation of this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein delves into the devastating impact of surveillance on mental health, self-esteem, and personal relationships. The discussion highlights the psychological stress, paranoia, and trust issues that arise from constant monitoring. Tips for protecting one's privacy and setting healthy boundaries in relationships are also provided, along with insights into the Panopticon Effect and its implications in modern society. The episode concludes with strategies for reclaiming personal power and autonomy from controlling environments.Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/2phjesuDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Rachel Bernstein interviews Pamela Jones, who shares her remarkable journey from a polygamist cult to a life of freedom and self-discovery. Pamela was born in Los Molinos, Mexico, to members of the Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Times, a fundamentalist, misogynistic cult. She was the 11th of her father’s 57 biological children and 2nd of her mother’s thirteen children, and it was from that moment on that Pamela held one single belief: She existed for one reason and one reason only,  to be her eventual husband’s handmaid and to bear him as many children as possible.Fast forward to age 10, Pamela was forced out of school to help her mom care for her 12 children,  giving her nothing more than a fifth-grade education. At age 15, Pamela married David Lebaron, the grandson of cult founder Alma Dayer LeBaron Jr., and was pregnant 17 times in 18 years. After 9 childbirths and 8 miscarriages, Pamela felt she had enough children to make it to heaven, a fundamentalist belief. One day, she awoke her nine children and escaped the neglect and abuse from her husband.Since arriving in the United States, Pamela has founded a multimillion-dollar business, Exclusive Services by MyGirls, and has shared her story across the country to show how someone who came from nothing can truly have everything. She has raised successful, entrepreneurial children, authored her own book, and is now a recognized public speaker, celebrated as both an inspiring businesswoman and a voice of empowerment. Her family has grown to include 31 grandchildren, keeping Pamela busier and more fulfilled than ever.Pamela’s LinksOrder Pamela’s Book: https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/bookSocial Media Handles:LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mygirlshousecleaning/WEBSITE: https://www.pamelaspeaks.liveFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/PamelaSpeaksUpINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/pamela_speaks/?hl=enConnect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Rachel Bernstein welcomes Dr. Mara Einstein to explore the pervasive influence of marketing strategies and their parallels with cult tactics. They share personal anecdotes and experiences, discuss the recruitment and indoctrination processes of cults and MLMs, and delve into the psychology behind marketing and brand communities. The conversation also touches upon how digital technology has transformed these practices and the importance of critical thinking and awareness in avoiding manipulation. Dr. Einstein provides insights from her extensive research and experience, offering valuable information on how marketing and cult tactics intersect and influence people's lives.Order Hoodwinked: https://www.drmaraeinstein.com/hoodwinkedDr. Mara Einstein's Website: https://www.drmaraeinstein.com/Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIn this Patreon exclusive bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein delves into the concept of the 'watchful eye' and the chilling effects of surveillance on personal autonomy. Discussing how awareness of being watched can deter individuals from exercising their rights, the episode covers various forms of surveillance, including physical, digital, and psychological. The host shares alarming examples of manipulation and control within cults and other groups, emphasizing how surveillance is used to manage and direct behavior. Real-life stories highlight the emotional and ethical consequences of these practices. The episode is a comprehensive discussion on the detrimental impact of surveillance on trust, self-esteem, and autonomy.Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Kyle and Kari Hanks left the 2x2 church during the COVID-19 pandemic. Alongside last week’s guests, Mike and Abbi Prussack, they launched a Facebook support group for former members in early 2022. In March 2023, they publicly released a leaked letter detailing abuse by a former overseer. The letter triggered a wave of disclosures, as thousands of survivors came forward to share their stories. The group quickly expanded from 900 to over 5,600 members, and has since documented more than 600 individual abusers—part of a broader tally exceeding 1,000 within a religious community estimated at 75,000 members. In 2024, the FBI opened an investigation, which remains ongoing.In this episode, Kyle and Kari also reflect on their upbringing within the 2x2 church. They describe its teachings, social norms, and a culture where questioning was quietly suppressed. They share how the isolation of the pandemic became a turning point—prompting them to deconstruct their faith and confront beliefs they once held as absolute.Kyle and Kari's Links2x2 Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ex2x2Church Updates: https://www.facebook.com/2x2churchupdatesSurvivor Care Funding Organization: https://www.bridgesandbalm.orgAuthor website for Preserving the Truth, the most comprehensive published work about the 2x2 church to date: https://cheriekroppehrig.comConnect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this special feed drop episode, Rachel Bernstein shares her insightful interview from 'Meredith for Real.' The discussion delves into the dynamics of politics and cults, examining the psychological vulnerabilities that make people susceptible to political cults, the role of media manipulation and thought-stopping cliches, and the fusion of politics and religion. Rachel provides practical advice on how individuals can educate themselves and critically evaluate information to prevent being unduly influenced by political extremism. She also addresses the alarming trend of polarized political discourse, stressing the importance of personal awareness and critical thinking. The episode highlights the necessity for more objective news sources and the role of education in fostering informed perspectives. Meredith’s LinksWebsite:  https://www.meredithforreal.com/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meredithforreal/    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/meredithforreal  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/meredithforrealthecuriousintrovertConnect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy