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Oct 29, 2025 • 1h 4min

Confronting Coercive Control with Dr. Christine Cocchiola

In this episode, host Rachel Bernstein speaks with Dr. Christine Cocchiola, an expert on coercive control, a social work professor, and developer of the Protective Parenting Program. Dr. Cocchiola shares her personal and professional experiences dealing with coercive control in familial and intimate relationships. Discussion topics include manipulation dynamics, cultural conditioning, the challenges of protective parenting, and strategies for safely exiting abusive situations. Dr. Cocchiola’s LinksWebsite: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 6min

Redefining Recovery: Addiction Myths with Mark Scheeren

In this episode, host Rachel Bernstein sits down with Mark Scheeren, co-founder of the Baldwin Research Institute and co-author of 'The Freedom Model for Addictions.' Mark shares his personal journey through Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) and his subsequent realization of the program's flaws. He discusses the creation of the Freedom Model, a non-12-step recovery approach, which focuses on autonomy, factual education, and challenging myths around addiction. Mark critiques the traditional 12-step model, emphasizing the importance of understanding personal motivations for substance use and the detrimental effects of labeling individuals as powerless or diseased. Rachel and Mark explore various aspects of addiction recovery, societal misconceptions, and the advantages of a more individualized, empowering approach to overcoming substance dependence.Mark’s LinksWebsite: https://www.thefreedommodel.org/about/Book: https://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Model-Addictions-Treatment-Recovery-ebook/dp/B077MFMV4M?ref_=ast_author_dp&th=1&psc=1Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Oct 17, 2025 • 6min

BONUS PREVIEW: Relationships After Cultic Involvement

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon exclusive episode, Rachel Bernstein discusses the challenges faced by former cult members and individuals who have been in manipulative relationships. Key topics include recognizing healthy relationships, understanding the impact of living in controlled environments, the importance of setting personal boundaries, practicing self-compassion, and gradually reentering social settings. The episode aims to provide practical advice and emotional support for listeners working towards building stable, positive connections after periods of manipulation and control.Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 13min

If Scientology Ruled the World pt. 2 with Jon Atack

In this episode, we continue exploring Jon Atack’s latest work, "If Scientology Ruled the World: Nazi Occultists, Sex Magick, Space Aliens, and the Second Coming."In our previous episode with Jon, we began unpacking the intricate web of beliefs that form the foundation of Scientology. Today, we'll go even deeper, examining the historical connections between Scientology and other esoteric movements, from Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy to surprising links with occult practices.Jon brings his unique perspective as both a former high-ranking Scientologist and as the author of the definitive historical account of the organization. His firsthand experience, combined with decades of research, makes him one of the most knowledgeable voices on this subject.We'll explore ideas about aliens, ancient civilizations, and the bizarre cosmology that forms Scientology's secret upper-level teachings. Jon will help us understand how these beliefs connect to broader patterns found in destructive authoritarian groups throughout history.Jon’s LinksIf Scientology Ruled the World: https://www.amazon.com/If-Scientology-Ruled-World-Occultists-ebook/dp/B0FP5PMNJTJon’s YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@jonatackfamilyfriends6176Jon’s Website: https://jonatack.co.uk/Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Oct 8, 2025 • 1h 1min

If Scientology Ruled the World pt. 1 with Jon Atack

Jon Atack, a former member of Scientology and an expert on authoritarian groups, shares his insights as an author and historian. He explores the psychological dynamics that trap individuals in cults, emphasizing how leaders manipulate doctrines for control. The conversation dives into the origins of various 20th-century cults linked to figures like Madame Blavatsky and discusses the consequences of belief in harmful ideologies, including the Nazi occult. Atack also critiques modern education's failure to teach critical thinking, vital for evaluating authority and preventing harm.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 5min

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Exploring Identity After a Cult

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon-exclusive bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein discusses the challenges of rediscovering one's identity after leaving a cult or a controlling relationship. The episode emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, defining personal values, and rebuilding a sense of self through various techniques such as journaling, exploring passions, and seeking feedback from trusted individuals. It underscores the emotional and psychological impacts of identity loss, including anxiety, depression, and social isolation, while offering practical advice and encouragement for those on this journey. Rachel also highlights the significance of community support, professional help, and setting healthy boundaries as essential steps in this transformative process.Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Oct 1, 2025 • 1h 18min

Discipline and Duty: Teen Mania Ministries with Timothy Heffelbower

In this episode, Rachel Bernstein welcomes Timothy Heffelbower to discuss his experiences with Teen Mania Ministries and the Honor Academy. Timothy shares his journey from being heavily involved in the organization to the challenges and realizations he faced after leaving. They touch on the pressures of maintaining strict schedules, the emphasis on sacrifice and delayed gratification, and the impact such an environment has on one's mental health and life decisions. Timothy also opens up about his personal life, including his family dynamics and career struggles, highlighting the ongoing effects of his time with Teen Mania. This episode provides a deep dive into the complexities of life after a high-control group and the path towards healing and self-worth.Timothy’s LinksInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/chasing_trains_book?igsh=MTF2MHZoMjl0aWs4Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/1ssz4RmRestart and Restore: Companion Notebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 15min

Unveiling the Truth: Surviving Scientology with Pamela Nickel Williams

In this episode, host Rachel Bernstein welcomes back Pamela Nickel Williams, an educator and author who was born into Scientology. Pamela revisits her life story, from her parents' involvement with L. Ron Hubbard in the late 1950s to her own harrowing experiences within the church. She discusses her memoir, 'Clearly Lies Are True,' which chronicles her journey as a cult and sexual abuse survivor. Pamela also touches on the emotional challenges of writing her book, reconciling her memories, and the importance of breaking the silence around abuse. The conversation delves into the psychological parallels between cult indoctrination and sexual abuse, shedding light on the hidden struggles of those ensnared in systems of control. The episode is a powerful testament to resilience, healing, and the ongoing fight for truth and justice.Pamela's LinksBook Website: https://www.clearlyliesaretrue.com/Clearly Lies Are True (Amazon): https://www.amazon.ca/Clearly-Lies-Pamela-Nickel-Williams/dp/B0FMS9KF55/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/2phjesuDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Sep 19, 2025 • 7min

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: The Watchful Eye: Living Under Surveillance pt. 2

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIn the continuation of this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein delves into the devastating impact of surveillance on mental health, self-esteem, and personal relationships. The discussion highlights the psychological stress, paranoia, and trust issues that arise from constant monitoring. Tips for protecting one's privacy and setting healthy boundaries in relationships are also provided, along with insights into the Panopticon Effect and its implications in modern society. The episode concludes with strategies for reclaiming personal power and autonomy from controlling environments.Connect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONRestart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: https://a.co/d/2phjesuDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 18min

The Dirt Beneath Our Door with Pamela Jones

In this episode, Rachel Bernstein interviews Pamela Jones, who shares her remarkable journey from a polygamist cult to a life of freedom and self-discovery. Pamela was born in Los Molinos, Mexico, to members of the Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Times, a fundamentalist, misogynistic cult. She was the 11th of her father’s 57 biological children and 2nd of her mother’s thirteen children, and it was from that moment on that Pamela held one single belief: She existed for one reason and one reason only,  to be her eventual husband’s handmaid and to bear him as many children as possible.Fast forward to age 10, Pamela was forced out of school to help her mom care for her 12 children,  giving her nothing more than a fifth-grade education. At age 15, Pamela married David Lebaron, the grandson of cult founder Alma Dayer LeBaron Jr., and was pregnant 17 times in 18 years. After 9 childbirths and 8 miscarriages, Pamela felt she had enough children to make it to heaven, a fundamentalist belief. One day, she awoke her nine children and escaped the neglect and abuse from her husband.Since arriving in the United States, Pamela has founded a multimillion-dollar business, Exclusive Services by MyGirls, and has shared her story across the country to show how someone who came from nothing can truly have everything. She has raised successful, entrepreneurial children, authored her own book, and is now a recognized public speaker, celebrated as both an inspiring businesswoman and a voice of empowerment. Her family has grown to include 31 grandchildren, keeping Pamela busier and more fulfilled than ever.Pamela’s LinksOrder Pamela’s Book: https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/bookSocial Media Handles:LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mygirlshousecleaning/WEBSITE: https://www.pamelaspeaks.liveFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/PamelaSpeaksUpINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/pamela_speaks/?hl=enConnect with us on social media:⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATIONDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/aboutAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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