

Behind The Advisor
XYPN
Behind the Advisor, an XYPN Podcast, takes you behind the scenes of what it really takes to launch, run, and grow a successful fee-only financial planning firm. Through candid conversations with industry leaders and real-life advisors, we uncover the challenges, victories, and lessons learned along the way. Whether you’re starting out or scaling up, this podcast delivers the front-line insights and actionable strategies you need to build a thriving, purpose-driven firm—on your terms.
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Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 3min
Ep #349: Serving Two Niches Successfully and the Added Value of Offering Tax Services: A Conversation with Jessica Goedtel
We’re excited to welcome XYPN member Jessica Goedtel, founder of Pavilion Financial Planning, on the show today. Jessica started her career thinking she wanted to be an archeologist. After a few jobs and a few different industries, her love of personal finance brought her to her first job in financial planning. She worked for a couple of different firms, including an online startup RIA, and learned as much as she could about doing financial planning and the types of clients she wanted to work with before ultimately launching her own firm in September of 2021. Jessica has two niches listed on her website’s home page: tech workers and online sex workers. We talked about the decision to have two niches, which she admits can be difficult at times, but also wouldn't go back and change it if she could. We dove into the service model and fee structure of both niche markets and how she's ultimately bringing value to her clients, including how she has incorporated tax preparation and tax planning into her business just over a year in, and she's doing amazingly well. This is an interview you don't want to miss. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/349

Nov 16, 2022 • 59min
Ep #348: Changing Careers & Building an Ideal Firm in 2 Years: A Conversation with Andy Panko
Today we welcome XYPN member Andy Panko, CFP®, RICP®, EA, founder of Tenon Financial, to XYPN Radio. Andy always knew he wanted to be a financial advisor—but the harsh reality of financial planning opportunities (or the lack of them) for a fresh college graduate was discouraging. So, Andy spent the first 19 years of his career working in insurance, banking, and brokerage firms. It was in 2016 that Andy discovered XYPN Radio and realized that his dream of helping others with their finances could be a reality. If you’re interested in working with clients to and through retirement and building a great firm in the process, this is the episode for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/348

Nov 2, 2022 • 1h 26min
Ep #347: XYPN’s 2022 Benchmarking Study Highlights: A Review with Alan Moore and Michael Kitces
Co-Founders Alan Moore and Michael Kitces review the highlights of the sixth-annual Member Benchmarking Study in this episode of XYPN Radio. Each year, the study gathers information from XYPN member participants to get an accurate picture of how advisors are doing in their firms. If you’re interested in learning what really works for fee-for-service advisors, then this is the episode for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/347

Oct 19, 2022 • 1h
Ep #346: Serving Clients Through Divorce: A Conversation with Nancy Hetrick
In today's episode, we’re excited to have Nancy Hetrick, founder of Smarter Divorce Solutions, who specializes in collaborative divorce. After her own divorce in 2007, Nancy realized the lack of resources for divorcing individuals and became a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst to offer a kinder, court-free process. Nancy shares her journey from founding her divorce planning practice to selling the wealth management side of her business to focus exclusively on divorce planning, which is now thriving. If you're interested in working with divorcing clients or exploring the power of a niche, this episode is for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/346

Oct 5, 2022 • 59min
Ep #345: The Power of Personal Experience in Finding Your Niche: A Conversation with Maggie Beach
Today we talk to Maggie Beach, CFP®, CPA/PFS, and XYPN Member who is the founder of NexJenn Financial Services—a fee-only firm servicing the real estate niche—and NexJenn CPA—an accounting firm that specializes in individual and trust taxation. Today’s podcast is full of information as Maggie shares her expertise in real estate, and how her early career path gave her the ability to provide advice on a personal level. In this show, we talk about everything in the real estate niche, from prospecting to outsourcing. For Maggie, real estate isn’t just a niche, it’s a family business. Maggie uses her personal experience in real estate investing to provide a holistic approach to advice to her clients. She also talks candidly about what it’s like to offload aspects of her business. Bottom line? Trusting your instincts is one of the most important skills advisors should hone while building their firm. If you’re interested in real estate as a niche, and finding better ways to serve your existing clients, this show is for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: http://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/345

Sep 21, 2022 • 1h 1min
Ep #344: Knowledge Gap: The Power of Advice-Only Planning: A Conversation with Cody Garrett
We’re excited to welcome XYPN member Cody Garrett, CFP®, founder of Measure Twice Financial—an advice-only firm based in Houston, TX. After 10 years in the music industry, Cody jumped into a career in financial planning. As Cody learned about financial planning, he shared blogs to teach others at the same time. His generosity changed the trajectory of his career. Cody lasted two and a half years at an RIA before the floodgates opened. Dozens of clients started reaching out wanting planning advice—without investment management. After two months, he generated more revenue than an entire year. So, he made the decision to go solo. In this episode, Alan and Cody discuss the importance of empowering clients to get involved with their finances. Measure Twice Financial leads by example—simplifying financial topics to help DIY investors to align their money with their values. Cody built his firm from the ground up, finding his ideal client before choosing a service model and fee structure. His goal is to change the perception of a financial planner's role by increasing the transparency of planning. If you’re interested in advice-only planning or are looking to align your professional goals and values, this episode is for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: http://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/344

Sep 7, 2022 • 1h 4min
Ep #343: Finding Success Building a Socially Responsible Firm: A Conversation with Ethan Miller
Today, we talk to XYPN member Ethan Miller, CFP®, founder of Planning for Progress—a fee-only firm based in Washington D.C. Ethan started his career in labor and union organizing which gave him the passion for working with individuals one-on-one to empower them to make the world a better place. Financial planning seemed to be the perfect way to help clients lead socially responsible lives while building financial stability. He launched Planning for Progress in 2016 part-time to build slowly (and remain an active part of movements for social and economic justice). After 4 years, his network and niche aligned. Ethan relaunched in 2022 as a full-time advisor and now serves 70 clients in a calendar year. This episode is fun—and brutally honest. Ethan shares his experience of transitioning between service models to fit his ideal client by embracing both comprehensive and project-based service models and getting his existing clients on board. If you’re thinking about starting a firm part-time or looking for ways to incorporate your values into your business, this episode is full of advice for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: http://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/343

Aug 24, 2022 • 1h 3min
Ep #342: Coaching Clients Through Uncertainty with Empathy: A Conversation with Rachael Burns
We’re excited to welcome XYPN member, Rachael Burns, CFP®, CDFA®, founder of True Worth Financial Planning, on the show today. Rachael’s start in financial services and life experience have allowed her to build a practice based on empathy and education. The day after learning she was pregnant with twins, her family faced the news that no one should have to hear: her husband had a brain tumor. Shortly after the birth of their twins, the COVID pandemic hit. The next year was challenging—to say the least. In this interview, Rachael talks candidly about finding #XYPNRadio during the pandemic and the role that it played in taking the leap to start her own firm. She soon realized that opening her own fee-only firm was a real possibility and found the courage to launch. Rachel’s leap of faith paid off—after two years, she now has found her niche helping women manage money stress to deal with what really matters. Rachael's story is incredible, as is her commitment to advising with empathy. You don't want to miss this episode. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: http://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/342

Aug 10, 2022 • 54min
Ep #341: Embracing Career Change & Finding Success Serving the Tattoo Artist Niche: A Conversation with Colton Etherton CFP®
We’re excited to welcome Colton Etherton CFP®, XYPN Member, and owner of Out of the Office Planning to the show today. On this episode, Colton talks us through his professional background, which includes starting his career in the banking side of financial services, transitioning to Merrill Edge, Schwab, then an independent RIA, all before launching his fee-only firm with a tattoo artist niche. Colton shares the impact of his unexpected unemployment in the launch of his firm in January of 2021 and how his banking background gave him the confidence to build his own firm from scratch. After 9 months of business, Colton scrapped his niche nine months in to be the go-to resource for tattoo artists on his schedule. His firm is now growing incredibly fast, bringing in 10 clients in 6 months, on a schedule that prioritizes his personal and business goals. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: http://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/341

Jul 27, 2022 • 53min
Ep #340: Successfully Scaling an Advice-Only Firm Serving the Dentist Niche: A Conversation with Sharon Weaver, CFP®
We’re excited to welcome XYPN member Sharon Weaver, CFP®, the founder of Mission Financial Planning, on the show today. Sharon has been a CFP® for over 25 years but had never actually done a financial plan until she launched her firm 11 years ago. Some early dentist clients from a center of influence referral eventually led her to go all in on working with dentists. She's been growing her network of dentistry practice consultants, bankers, and insurance folks who work with dentists and is also networking with investment managers who refer clients to her because she is advice-only, meaning she doesn't manage investments. She's been growing her firm and has started hiring for support. Sharon talked about the decision to hire and what she's looking for in a second planner. If you're interested in learning more about what it’s like to work with dentists and hire on a second lead planner, this episode is for you. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://www.xyplanningnetwork.com/340