
LiberatED Podcast
The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families.
This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyful Learning: How To Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling (Hachette, 2025). She has a BA in economics from Bowdoin College and a master’s degree in education policy from Harvard University. A mom of four, Kerry lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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Latest episodes

Jan 17, 2025 • 45min
A former public school teacher finds fulfillment in her Ohio microschool
Melanie Leone, a former public school teacher with a Master’s in Educational Leadership, now runs the Anchor Center for Learning, a microschool in Ohio. She shares her journey from public education to founding a school that embraces student autonomy and personalized learning. Melanie discusses the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, her experiences with educational transformations, and how community engagement has been vital for her school's growth. She highlights the importance of adaptability in education and reflects on her fulfillment as a founder.

Jan 14, 2025 • 38min
Supporting self-directed learning in and out of conventional classrooms
Tyler Thigpen, co-founder and CEO of The Forest School and a leader in self-directed learning, dives into transformative education practices. He shares his journey from teaching Spanish to advocating for environments that foster learner autonomy. The discussion highlights the evolution of Acton Academy, showcasing collaborative methods that empower student agency. Thigpen emphasizes innovative models like mastery-based transcripts and addresses the growing demand for alternative education, urging teachers to embrace personalized approaches for deeper learning.

Jan 10, 2025 • 49min
How One Missouri Mom Created A Microschool Serving 200 Students
Kate Brockmeyer, founder of Off the Page Co-Learning, shares her journey of establishing a successful microschool in Missouri that serves nearly 200 students. She discusses the rise in homeschooling and microschooling since the pandemic, the importance of personalized learning, and innovative programs like career and technical education for teens. Kate highlights the role of community engagement and adaptability in her school's growth and emphasizes the entrepreneurial spirit needed to thrive in educational entrepreneurship.

Jan 7, 2025 • 40min
In Upstate New York, A New Acton Academy Takes Off
Melissa Borkowski, co-founder of Acton Studios of Rochester, dives into the world of learner-driven education. She shares her journey of launching a new school inspired by personal experiences and the challenges of the pandemic. Melissa discusses regulatory hurdles faced in New York, emphasizing community collaboration in overcoming obstacles. The conversation highlights Acton Academy's innovative educational model, focusing on empowering students through critical thinking and accountability, while fostering a supportive network among micro schools.

Jan 3, 2025 • 38min
How a homeschool mom created an education website that reaches millions
Debra Ross, a dedicated homeschool mom, is the founder and CEO of Kids Out And About, LLC, which provides essential family resources and event info to over 11 million visitors. In this conversation, she shares her journey of marrying entrepreneurship with family life. Topics include the significant rise of homeschooling, innovative ways to connect families with local educational resources, and the evolving landscape of education shaped by the COVID pandemic. Debra also discusses her vision for expanding community engagement through diverse educational opportunities.

Dec 31, 2024 • 30min
How microschools are sharing instructors and building community across the US
Sara Casey Taleff, founder of Cottonwood Communities, and Jenna Hill, co-founder of CASCO Learning, discuss the microschool movement and their new initiative, CoLearnCo, aimed at fostering community. They share insights on the evolution of microschools, highlighting their focus on self-directed, project-based learning. The conversation also explores how technology enhances personalized education, connects families, and builds community engagement. Listeners will be intrigued by their vision of creating a cohesive online learning environment.

Dec 27, 2024 • 20min
A university researcher explains why homeschooling numbers continue to grow
Collin Hitt, a homeschooling dad and Executive Director at the PRIME Center, dives into the booming trend of homeschooling, especially in Missouri, where 1 in 16 kids are now taught at home. He discusses shifting perceptions post-pandemic, the flexibility families seek, and the challenges in gathering accurate data. Hitt also explores the evolving relationship between homeschooling and public education, including the need for schools to adapt. Finally, he hints at the future of education policies that support homeschooling, a likely permanent fixture for many families.

Dec 24, 2024 • 45min
An online microschool for homeschooled teens and tweens
Luba Vangelova, founder of The Hub, shares her journey from systems engineering and journalism to pioneering a part-time online microschool for homeschooled teens. She discusses the power of curiosity and collaboration in education, emphasizing the importance of hands-on projects. Luba reveals how her initial vision evolved during the pandemic, transitioning to an online format that fosters community and connection. She highlights the challenges and rewards of creating an engaging learning environment, showcasing the transformative potential of alternative education.

Dec 20, 2024 • 39min
A Homeschool Mom Founded Above Reproach Academy, Now Serving 100+ Learners
Kimberly Amee is a homeschool mom and former teacher who in 2021 founded Above Reproach Academy, a private umbrella school, homeschool co-op, and educational resource center located in Spring Hill, Florida that now serves over 100 learners. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly LiberatED e-newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Dec 17, 2024 • 30min
Founder Ar’Jillian Gilmer on the journey from Arkansas public school teacher to education entrepreneur
Ar'Jillian Gilmer is the founder of Gilmer's Learning Solutions, a tutoring center and microschool in Little Rock, Arkansas. A public school teacher for nearly a decade, Ar'Jillian felt the pull towards education entrepreneurship and creating innovative learning options for local children. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly LiberatED e-newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.