

LiberatED Podcast
Kerry McDonald
The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families.
This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyful Learning: How To Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling (Hachette, 2025). She has a BA in economics from Bowdoin College and a master’s degree in education policy from Harvard University. A mom of four, Kerry lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter at edentrepreneur.org.
This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyful Learning: How To Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling (Hachette, 2025). She has a BA in economics from Bowdoin College and a master’s degree in education policy from Harvard University. A mom of four, Kerry lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter at edentrepreneur.org.
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Jun 6, 2023 • 38min
From Memphis Public School Teacher to Lab School Founder: Coi Morrison's entrepreneurial journey
Coi Morrison worked for several years as a public school teacher in both the Chicago Public Schools and the Memphis Public Schools. She became frustrated by the standard education system and left education, earned an MBA, and worked in banking for a while before returning to teaching. It was searching for a school for her own four children that led her to create The Lab School of Memphis in 2021. Sign up for my free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Jun 2, 2023 • 51min
The Space In Between: How Becky Abrams grew her small homeschool co-op into a 200-learner hybrid school
Becky Abrams is a longtime homeschooling mom in the Rogue Valley of southern Oregon who started a small, parent-run homeschool co-op in 2015. That co-op led to the creation of Arrows Christian Academy, a drop-off, K-8, hybrid school with nearly 200 kids and 25 staff members in two locations. As she delegates more of Arrow’s day-to-day operations, Becky is now helping other education entrepreneurs to create similar learning models across the country through her website, nonprofitedsolutions.com. *** Sign up for my free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 30, 2023 • 38min
Empowering Homeschooling Families in Detroit: A conversation with Engaged Detroit founder, Bernita Bradley
By the time Covid hit and schools shut down, Bernita Bradley had been working on education issues in Detroit for a decade, including as an AmeriCorps volunteer. In 2020, she launched Engaged Detroit, a citywide co-op for about a dozen families who wanted to homeschool their children during the pandemic. Today, Engaged Detroit serves as a resource center for more than 100 Detroit homeschooling families. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 26, 2023 • 36min
A microschool pioneer who fought for homeschooling freedoms: Clonlara School founder, Pat Montgomery
What began as a microschool in 1967 for Clonlara School founder Pat Montgomery’s two children and six others has grown into an internationally-renowned, K-12 private school serving 2,000 off-campus students around the world through its online program, as well as a small group of on-campus students at its Ann Arbor, Michigan headquarters. It quickly became clear that parents outside of Ann Arbor were attracted to this learning model, particularly as the modern homeschooling movement gained traction beginning in the 1970s. Some Michigan families were investigated or charged with truancy for homeschooling their children, so Montgomery mounted a lawsuit against the Michigan State Board of Education. Thirty years ago this month, on May 25, 1993, the Michigan Supreme Court ruled in Clonlara's favor. That case, and two related ones that were decided on the same day, secured homeschooling rights in the state. Today, I am so honored to be joined by Pat Montgomery and her daughter, Chandra Montgomery Nicol, who was Clonlara’s first student, served as its longtime Executive Director, and is now Clonlara’s board chair. Read more about Montgomery and the May 1993 legal decisions in my latest Forbes article. Sign up for my free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 23, 2023 • 31min
Can a school district actually innovate? Maybe so.
Dr. Cory Steiner is the superintendent of the Northern Cass School District in rural Hunter, North Dakota. Northern Cass was a 2022 finalist for the prestigious Yass Prize for education innovation, particularly for its unique strategy of reaching rural students in a more personalized, learner-centered way. Northern Cass Personalized Learning Institute June conference information and registration link. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 19, 2023 • 8min
100th Episode! Some reflections on this podcast milestone
Today marks the 100th episode of the LiberatED podcast, which I launched back in February 2022 as a once-a-week podcast, and boosted to a twice-weekly show last fall because there are just so many stories to tell of the entrepreneurial parents and educators who are transforming US K-12 education from the bottom up. In recognition of this milestone, I thought I would share a few reflections. Thank you so much for listening, sharing, and supporting this podcast! I am so grateful. Sign up for my free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 16, 2023 • 44min
A Home-Based Montessori Microschool: Why longtime teacher Karen Weary created a microschool at home
Karen Weary was a licensed teacher in Colorado who taught for many years in both public and private Montessori schools before moving to the rural Rogue Valley area of southern Oregon. There, she taught in an established, private Montessori school. The education disruption of 2020 prompted her to explore other education options, and in the fall of 2021 she opened Mountain Montessori, a child-centered K-3 microschool in a small, renovated classroom above her garage. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 12, 2023 • 34min
How A Teen Homeschooler Created An Online Learning Platform: A conversation with Nasiyah Isra-Ul
Nasiyah Isra-Ul, the founder of Canary Academy, an online learning platform for homeschoolers that provides curriculum curation and instruction, learning tools, coaching, and community engagement for homeschooling families across the US. Nasiyah launched Canary Academy as a 15-year-old homeschooler trying to make her own family’s homeschooling experience easier and more efficient. She officially launched her organization as a non-profit in 2021, with a specific focus on expanding access to homeschooling resources to low-income families. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 9, 2023 • 24min
Working with youth on "their next great adventure": Vijay Shah at The Humanist Academy
A former teacher in the Chicago Public Schools, Vijay Shah founded The Humanist Academy in 2016 in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas. An Acton Academy affiliate, this learner-driven microschool now has over 85 students. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

May 5, 2023 • 32min
Professor Gina Riley on self-directed education & unschooling
Dr. Gina Riley is an educational psychologist, clinical professor, and program leader of the Adolescent Special Education Program at City University of New York (CUNY)–Hunter College. She has over 15 years experience working with teens diagnosed with learning disabilities and emotional/behavioral disorders. She is also widely published in the fields of special education, psychology, school psychology, and mental health counseling. My listeners may know Gina most for her internationally-renowned work in the fields of homeschooling, unschooling, and self-directed learning. She has authored numerous academic journal articles on unschooling and self-directed education, as well as co-authored many others with Boston College professor Peter Gray (episode #12). Gina is the author of the 2021 book, The Homeschooling Starter Guide: How to Create and Adapt the Best Education Action Plan for Your Needs. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.