
LiberatED Podcast
The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families.
This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyful Learning: How To Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling (Hachette, 2025). She has a BA in economics from Bowdoin College and a master’s degree in education policy from Harvard University. A mom of four, Kerry lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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Latest episodes

Dec 15, 2023 • 55min
“As immigrants, we chase the American Dream.” Gaby Narvaez & Andrea Hantman share their entrepreneurial journey as microschool founders
Originally from Venezuela, Gaby Narvaez and Andrea Hantman met in the U.S. and launched P.L.A.Y. School Academy (Passion Learning Approach Year-Round), a K-12 microschool in South Florida. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

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Dec 12, 2023 • 42min
Do you want to start a microschool? Tom Bogle of Microschool Solutions offers tips
Exploring challenges of teaching entrepreneurship in traditional schools, transitioning from public school to homeschooling, journey to founding micro schools, partnership importance for microschool development, community advocacy and personal growth in micro-schools

Dec 8, 2023 • 34min
A Teacher Finds Joy & Fulfillment As A Founder: Becky McNichols on creating Rooted Life Academy
My guest today is Becky McNichols, founder of Rooted Life Academy, a home-based microschool/homeschool enrichment program in the Kansas City area. Becky taught in public schools for 15 years, including most recently in a Title I public school that served predominantly low-income and migrant students. She grew increasingly drained by her public school teaching job and resigned in the spring of 2022 to launch Rooted Life. Becky opened her pod that fall with eight students ranging in age from kindergarteners to fourth graders. Today, her pod is at capacity with about a dozen students and a waiting list. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Dec 5, 2023 • 38min
Meeting Middle Schoolers’ Needs: Why former public school teacher Nate Fellman launched his microschool
Nathan Fellman was a public middle school teacher and administrator in New Hampshire for nearly 20 years before leaving his job to launch a middle school microschool program in fall 2022. Nate and two of his colleagues from the public school system opened The Harkness House in Nashua, New Hampshire that emphasizes personalized learning for 6th thru 9th graders. Harkness House also offers hybrid homeschool programs for local young people ages 10 to 18 who want to access Harkness House classes. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Dec 1, 2023 • 38min
Georgia’s Learning Pod Protection Act Helped This Founder...But Do We Need Regulation?
Sharon Masinelli is the founder and head of school at St. John the Baptist Hybrid School in Kennesaw, Georgia, outside of Atlanta. Students attend the drop-off program two to three days a week, learning from an assortment of 30 educators, while homeschooling on the remaining days. Sharon launched her hybrid school in 2019 with 47 students. Today, her program has 120 students in kindergarten through 12 grade. In the summer of 2021, Sharon's program was threatened to be shut down by the county fire marshal. After the Institute for Justice sent a letter citing Georgia's new Learning Pod Protection Act, the fire marshal backed down and Sharon's program was able to operate. All of this leads us to grapple with the question of regulation, particularly for unconventional learning models like hybrid schools. Do we really need regulation, even if it seems to help founders? What are the benefits and drawbacks of such policies? *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Nov 28, 2023 • 40min
Why This Charter School Founder Shifted to Microschooling
Jack Johnson Pannell is the Head of School and Founder of Trinity Arch Preparatory School for Boys in Phoenix, Arizona, a microschool that launched this fall to serve boys ages 7 to 14. Prior to launching this new school, Jack was the founder of an all-boys public charter school in Baltimore, Maryland called Baltimore Collegiate. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Nov 23, 2023 • 3min
Thankful for Entrepreneurs
Happy Thanksgiving! A special note of gratitude to all the entrepreneurs out there. You are the true engines of human progress. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Nov 21, 2023 • 38min
A Conversation with Acton Academy Co-Founder Jeff Sandefer
Jeff Sandefer, co-founder of Acton Academy, discusses the origins of Acton Academy and Acton School of Business, the power of personalized learning and focusing on learner's choices, exploring the next great adventure and finding a calling, launching your own Acton Academy, and learning more about Acton Academy through various resources.

Nov 17, 2023 • 39min
One of the earliest Acton Academies! Dani Foltz-Smith on her path from Acton parent to founder
More than a decade ago, Dani Foltz-Smith sent her two girls to a new school that had recently opened in Austin, Texas. It was the flagship Acton Academy, launched in 2009 by Jeff and Laura Sandefer to prioritize learner-driven education and enable each child to pursue his or her own “hero’s journey.” Dani’s family adored their Acton experience so much that when they needed to move back to Los Angeles, Dani became the 3rd ever Acton Academy campus, after Austin and Guatemala, opening Acton Academy Venice Beach in 2013. Today, there are more than 300 Acton Academy microschools serving thousands of learners. Read more about Dani's school and the greater ecosystem of decentralized education options in the Los Angeles area: In Los Angeles, A Tiny School Lets Young People Direct Their Own Education (The 74) *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.

Nov 14, 2023 • 41min
The Rise of Faith-Based Microschools: A year of stunning growth for Refine KC
Refine KC is a full-time, faith-based microschool in the Kansas City, Missouri area that launched in August 2022 with 15 K-12 students. Today, it is at capacity with 40 students, 6 teachers, and a waiting list. Three of Refine KC’s founders are with us on today's podcast to talk about why their school is so popular. "Church-Based Microschools Are 'Sprouting Everywhere'" (The Lion) *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated.