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Apr 23, 2025 • 46min

Unlearning Legacy Systems to Build Antifragile AI Operating Models with Ja-Naé Duane

Tap into a network of bold thinkers and industry leaders by sponsoring the Unlearn Podcast.Contact here: https://bit.ly/contact-barryoreilly____________________________________________________________Today on the podcast, we welcome Ja-Naé Duane, systems thinker, innovator, and author of Super Shifts. With over 20 years as a behavioral scientist and 4-time entrepreneur, Ja-Naé has guided organizations, governments, and communities through future-focused transformation.Recognized by outlets like NPR and Businessweek, she’s passionate about reshaping how we live and work in the age of superintelligence, leveraging AR/VR, AI, and blockchain. Ja-Naé has worked with top firms like Deloitte and PWC, and is a sought-after speaker at Singularity University.In this episode, we explore her transformative frameworks for both personal and organizational growth, highlighting the power of unlearning, integrating systems thinking, and embracing change in a tech-driven world.Dr. Ja-Naé Duane is a Research Fellow at MIT, Faculty Director of Brown’s Innovation Management program, and a mentor in its Tech Leadership program. She’s also a Council Member at The Stimson Center, an Investor at CollX, and a Co-Founder of The Revolution Factory. At Singularity University, she teaches futures thinking and lectures in Information Systems at Bentley University, where she’s on the Blockchain Advisory Council. She’s the bestselling author of McGraw-Hill and an advisor at Teleportec.Key Takeaways:Stress isn’t the enemy; using it intentionally can fuel growth and resilience.To thrive in the future, we must unlearn outdated systems and develop an antifragile mindset.Superintelligence and AI are crucial tools for creativity, reflection, and decision-making.Additional Insights:Let go of outdated thinking to make room for fresh, innovative approaches.Use AI and other tools to boost productivity and enhance creativity in your work.Join Ja-Naé Duane as she discusses transformation, unlearning habits, and creating resilient systems that thrive with technology and nature.Episode Highlights:[01:00] - Episode Recap  "Today’s guest is Ja-Naé Duane, author of Super Shifts, discussing personal and organizational transformation in the age of superintelligence."[01:56] - Guest Introduction: Ja-Naé Duane  "Ja-Naé Duane is a leading behavioral scientist and author, helping individuals and organizations navigate the world of AI and technology."[03:55] - Inspiration Behind Super Shifts and the Pandemic Pivot  "During COVID-19, I was called to help restart Europe, which sparked the Super Shifts concept."[06:10] - Exploring Decentralized Systems and Resilience  "We studied nature’s decentralized systems and explored how businesses can adopt similar models to thrive under stress."[08:33] - Unlearning Comfort and Embracing Stressors  "I realized I was too comfortable. We must introduce stressors to evolve and adapt."[12:11] - Physical Stressors for Growth and Self-Awareness  "Physical challenges like mountain climbing help build resilience and self-awareness for my work."[15:29] - Using AI for Productivity and Holistic Living  "We should use AI for efficiency, but also focus on creativity, wellness, and meaningful connections."[18:56] - Transformative Models and Organizational Impact"By unlearning old mindsets, the Transform Model helps organizations shift to sustainable, adaptable systems."[25:07] - Embracing AI for Leadership and Change"AI can revolutionize leadership and decision-making while keeping us human in how we integrate it."[30:10] - AI, Time Management, and the Future of Work"AI tools free up time by automating tasks, but we must rethink how we spend our time and adapt to new ways of working."[35:40] - Creating Space for Innovation and Long-Term Vision  "Leaders must create space for innovation, even if uncomfortable, to shape the future."[42:28] - AI Tools, Growth, and Embracing Change"Our AI-native studio uses automation to streamline tasks, reduce manpower, and embrace discomfort to adapt for future success."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Ja-Naé Duane: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janaeduane/ MIT: https://www.linkedin.com/school/mit/ Brown University School of Professional Studies: https://www.linkedin.com/school/brownsps/ The Revolution Factory: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revolution-factory/ Pre-order the First Edition Hardback of Super Shifts today at https://www.target.com/p/supershifts-by-ja-nae-duane-steve-fisher-hardcover/-/A-1001693948 FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Apr 9, 2025 • 44min

From Fashion to Real Estate, Unlearning to Realign Purpose and Scale with Francesca Cortesi

Tap into a network of bold thinkers and industry leaders by sponsoring the Unlearn Podcast.Contact here: https://bit.ly/contact-barryoreilly____________________________________________________________Today on the Unlearn Podcast, I’m thrilled to be joined by Francesca Cortesi, CPO and Founder of Prodotto Collective, a product visionary, transformational leader, and someone who truly understands what it takes to build beloved products and high-performing teams.Francesca was the Chief Product Officer at Hemnet, Sweden’s leading property platform, where she played a pivotal role in scaling the product organization and driving the company through a successful IPO in 2021. Under her leadership, Hemnet achieved consistent double-digit growth, became one of Sweden’s most appreciated apps, and stood out as a top performer on the Swedish stock exchange.But her story goes far beyond business metrics. Francesca led cultural shifts too, transitioning the company language to English and increasing female representation in tech, proving that growth and inclusion can go hand in hand.In this episode, we explore how Francesca thinks about unlearning as a tool for personal and organizational growth, building product excellence at scale, and creating environments where diverse teams thrive.Key Takeaways:Changing careers: Francesca switched from fashion in Milan to tech in Sweden after many rejections, showing strong resilience.Product Management: Asking many questions helped her shift from project management to product management.Asking for Help: Great leaders don't need to know everything; asking for help builds stronger teams.Idea company size: Francesca thrives best in scale-up companies (40–400 people), not large corporations.Unlearning and Growth: Every new role required Francesca to "unlearn" old ways to adapt to new challenges.Additional Insights:Changing Roles: Your job changes when your company grows, so be ready for change.Know your strength: Understand clearly what you’re good at and where you fit best.Start Fresh: Always approach new tasks like you're learning for the first time.Get ready for a powerful conversation with Francesca Cortesi on embracing change, scaling with intention, and building inclusive, high-performing product teams that thrive through continuous unlearning and growth.Episode Highlights: [01:00] - Episode Recap  "Welcome to the Unlearn Podcast, Exploring career shifts, new leadership styles, and how to build strong product teams."[02:03] - Guest Introduction: Francesca Cortesi  "Francesca, former Chief Product Officer at Hemnet, helped scale the product and led the company to a successful 2021 IPO."[03:22] - From Milan Fashion to Stockholm: The First Career Pivot "I worked in fashion, got a translator job in Sweden, and decided to move."[07:10] - Facing Rejection and Redefining Identity  "I tried returning to fashion, but it wasn’t working, time to move on."[10:13] - Discovering Product Management Through Curiosity and Questioning "I kept asking questions, turns out, that curiosity led me into product management."[15:20] - What Francesca Had to Unlearn"As a product manager, I had to leave behind what worked before, it’s always contextual."[19:56] - Transition from Individual Contributor to Product Leader  "My first leadership role taught me to stop copying others and find my own style."[24:54] - Why Role Expectations Must Be Rewritten During Scaling "Too many questions about roles and success? That’s your sign to pause and redefine expectations."[27:52] - Realizing Where She Thrives: The Scaleup Stage  "My sweet spot? Companies ready to scale after finding product-market fit."[37:24] - From Operator to Advisor: Unlearning and Redefining Impact"New roles come with new expectations, especially the ones you set for yourself."Follow Our Guest:LinkedIn Accounts: Francesca Cortesi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francesca-cortesi/Prodotto Collective: https://www.linkedin.com/company/prodotto-collective/ Hemnet: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hemnet/ Websites:   Prodotto Collective (Francesca’s Personal Site): https://www.francescacortesi.com/ FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Mar 26, 2025 • 39min

The Neuroscience of High-Performing Teams for Leaders to Achieve Workplace Success | Dr. Marcia Goddard

Welcome back to the Unlearn podcast! Today, we're exploring neuroscience with Dr. Marcia Goddard, a top neuroscientist and high-performance expert. As the founder of Brain Matters, a LinkedIn Top Voice, TEDx speaker, and a Neuroscientist. She's known for making science practical for business success. Her work with Formula 1, where she studied behavior and culture within teams to develop comprehensive strategies that enhance performance, along with her contributions to Leiden University, and The Contentment Foundation has helped leaders and teams boost performance and teamwork. She is also the Board Advisory Member of Equalture. Tune in for an insightful talk on unlocking human abilities and building creative workplace cultures!She is a respected neuroscientist who is dedicated to guiding young professionals and bringing fresh ideas into different industries. Dr. Marcia’s work is a valuable resource for anyone aiming to make a big impact in technology and business.Dr. Marcia Goddard, a neuroscience expert with over 10+ years of experience, applies brain science to boost workplace performance and culture. She has consulted with high-performance teams, including Formula 1 and Fortune 500 companies, optimizing team dynamics. Her thought leadership focuses on psychological safety and inclusion, guiding organizations toward innovation and growth.Key Takeaways:Expanding Globally: Dr. Marcia Goddard’s strategies for international growth.  Overcoming Challenges: Solutions for fast-changing industries.  Adapting to Change: Stay flexible, ditch outdated methods.  Personal Experience: Dr. Goddard’s lessons in action.Additional Insights:Effective Strategies: Dr. Marcia Goddard on reshaping industries.  Thriving in Growth: Tips for fast-expanding businesses.  Experience to Innovation: Dr. Goddard’s journey to better solutions.Get ready for an enlightening conversation with Dr. Marcia Goddard on infusing new ideas into business strategies and fostering a culture of innovation and growth.Episode Highlights: [00:36] - Episode Precap"Welcome back to the Unlearn podcast, where we challenge conventional thinking to unlock high performance and breakthrough innovation."[01:17] - Guest Introduction: Dr. Marcia Goddard“I'm joined by Dr. Marcia Goddard, a neuroscientist, author, and keynote speaker specializing in applying brain science to workplace performance and culture.”[02:30] - Navigating Introversion, Networking Opportunities, and Career Growth"My career was once a series of what I called coincidences, but I no longer believe they were."[06:46] - Unlearning Misconceptions in Neuroscience"There are two answers to that. My favorite quote is, 'If the brain were simple enough for us to understand, we would be too simple to understand it.”[10:26] - Practical Tips for High-Performance"It's a good question, especially in individual coaching. I think that's what it's related to."[12:40] - The Importance of Reflection in Decision-Making"We often tell ourselves we must decide now, but that’s rarely the case."[15:58] - Enhancing Team Communication"The most common thing I see at a team level, especially in growing organizations."[18:44] - Remote Work and Maintaining Connections"For remote organizations, let’s be clear: I don’t support full-time office work."[26:04] - Future of High-Performance Teams"Looking ahead, what excites you most in the industry, and what do you think needs to be unlearned?"[29:31] - Rethinking Diversity and Inclusion Programs"We need to unlearn the notion that ticking boxes creates impact and that DEI is just the right thing to do."[35:52] - Future Trends in Neuroscience and Performance Teams"Looking ahead, what excites you most about the future of performance teams and neuroscience?"Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Dr. Marcia Goddard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mngoddard/Brain Matters: https://www.linkedin.com/company/brainmattersconsulting/ Formula 1: https://www.linkedin.com/company/formula-one-management-ltd/ Equalture: https://www.linkedin.com/company/equalture/ The Contentment Foundation: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contentment-foundation/ Leiden University - Faculty of Archaeology: https://www.linkedin.com/company/faculty-of-archaeology-university-of-leiden/ Websites:   Brain Matters: https://brainmattersconsulting.com/ Formula 1: https://www.formula1.com/ Equalture: https://www.equalture.com/ The Contentment Foundation: https://www.contentment.org/ Leiden University - Faculty of Archaeology: https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/archaeology ____________________________________________________________Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Mar 12, 2025 • 39min

Why Playing Too Small Is Stopping Your Finance Career Growth with Kristie Edling-Day

Welcome to UNLEARN, the podcast where we will discuss the transformative journeys, innovative tactics, and the pivotal mindset shifts necessary for authentic progress and development. Today, I'm thrilled to welcome Kristie Edling-Day, the current Executive Vice President and Chief Information Officer of Advisor Technology at LPL Financial, and former Principal and Chief Information Officer at Vanguard, a pioneer in strategic development and information management.Kristie is not just a leader; she also loves helping young professionals grow and bringing new ideas to different industries. The book ‘Innovate to Elevate: Transforming Markets and Minds in Southeast Asia’ explores groundbreaking insights, offering valuable strategies for those aiming to drive change in technology and business.Kristie has worked in the Financial Services industry for over 18 years, helping improve technology and develop new products. At LPL Financial, she manages Client Works, a platform that helps over 20,000 advisors with important tools for handling accounts, investments, trading, advisory programs, and compliance. She also leads LPL’s strategy for AI, making sure the company and its advisors have access to the latest in what technology can do both for efficiency and growth.Key Takeaways:Growing Businesses Worldwide: Kristie shares how to expand companies across different countries.  Facing Challenges: Tips on handling problems in fast-growing industries.  Learning and Adapting: Why being open to change and unlearning old ways helps with innovation.  Using Personal Experience: How Kristie solves problems based on her own challenges.Additional Insights:Smart Strategies and Strong Operations: Kristie explains how these key skills can change industries.  Succeeding in Fast-Growing Markets: How to handle challenges in quickly expanding businesses.  Turning Experience into Innovation: How Kristie uses her own experiences to create better business solutions.Get ready for an insightful talk with Kristie Edling-Day on bringing fresh ideas into business strategies and building a culture of innovation and growth.Episode Highlights:[00:37] - Episode Introduction"Systems like LPL’s ClientWorks platform are so important and they help over 20,000 advisors manage their work more effectively and stay compliant. "[01:35] - Guest Introduction: Kristie Edling-Day.“I did not join Vanguard thinking I wanted to be an executive in technology."[05:20] - Turning Point in Career Growth Choices and Embracing Uncertainty.“On my first day at the new job, I realized that I didn't really know the boss or even the names of all the divisions in the company."[10:05] - Nurturing Passion and Building Effective Leadership Teams"What are the things you were doing when you chose to stay late, didn't mind, and in fact, were excited or couldn't wait to get up the next day?"[16:28] - Adjusting to New Roles and Unlearning"I think it is one of the most profound realizations that two organizations can think about roles and define them very differently."[24:05] - Discovering Aha Moments in Personal Growth"Some of the things that helped you, like those aha moments? Now that you have new clarity, what are you doing differently?"[28:54] - The Need for Unlearning in Industry Evolution "Things most exciting about in the industry, and what do you think needs to be unlearned? I’ve noticed both individuals and organizations often resist asking for help, preferring to go it alone."[36:04] - Conclusion and Future Aspirations"It's been absolutely phenomenal to have you on the show. Thank you for sharing your story so openly and humbly. This is what people love listening to."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Kristie Edling-Day: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristie-edling-day-10690623/  Vanguard : https://www.linkedin.com/company/vanguard/ LPL Financial : https://www.linkedin.com/company/lpl-financial/ Websites:   Vanguard : https://investor.vanguard.com/corporate-portal Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Feb 26, 2025 • 55min

How to Build a Viral App by Finding Untapped Niches for Explosive Growth | Crystal Gonzalez

Welcome to UNLEARN, the podcast where we explore the transformative experiences, strategies, and mindset shifts essential for true innovation and growth. Today, I’m honored to host Crystal Lee Gonzalez, a trailblazer in strategic growth and innovation across Southeast Asia.Born and raised in the Philippines, Crystal has spent the last fifteen years shaping and scaling some of the region’s most prominent brands. She is the Co-Founder & CEO of NoneAway and was previously the Co-Founder of PICK.A.ROO. Her leadership has left a significant mark on multiple industries, serving as the Former CEO of Canva Philippines & Southeast Asia, Former President & Managing Director at HonestBee, and Former Regional Head of Southeast Asia at Viber. With a career spanning top-tier organizations, she also held key roles as the Group Account Director at Tribal Worldwide, Head of Branding at Lazada Group, and Marketing Head at YAHOO.Beyond launching and leading businesses, Crystal finds deep fulfillment in mentoring emerging talent and reshaping industries through innovation. Her expertise is now encapsulated in her upcoming book, Innovate to Elevate: Transforming Markets and Minds in Southeast Asia, a must-read for those looking to make a lasting impact in technology and strategic development.Key Takeaways:Scaling Global Startups: Crystal details her strategies for business expansion in Southeast Asia.Embracing Challenges: Insights into overcoming obstacles in high-growth environments.Unlearning for Growth: How adapting and unlearning fuels innovation.Leveraging Personal Experiences: Crystal's approach to creating solutions from personal pain points.Additional Insights:The NoneAway Model: Crystal demonstrates how strategic thinking and operational excellence revolutionize real estate.Adapting in High Growth Markets: Mastering the challenges of rapid expansion and market dynamics.Innovative Solutions from Personal Insights: How Crystal’s personal experiences inspire practical business innovations.Prepare for an insightful conversation with Crystal Gonzalez on Bringing fresh ideas to startup strategies and cultivating a culture of innovation and strategic growth.Episode Highlights: [00:35] - Episode Introduction"In the Philippines, there are 120,000 reported scammers in real estate. This is why, even with a legitimate broker, I felt unease and anxiety until I received the keys to my house."[01:18] - Guest Introduction: Crystal Lee Gonzalez"Welcome to the Unlearn Podcast. Today, I'm honored to host Crystal Gonzalez, a leader in strategy and growth who has developed and scaled renowned brands across Southeast Asia."[03:03] - Viber's Launch Story"It started when I met Talmon, the founder. My first question was simple: Why are you in the Philippines?"[07:50] - Nurturing Empathy and Innovation "Okay. So interesting fact. I promise you this is connected to my answer. So my dad and actually my sister, now my younger sister, they're both psychiatrists."[16:15] - The Role of Relatability in Product Adoption"When we added more words to our copy and analyzed our data, we changed our messages to offer free chat and calls for your family and friends abroad"[26:08] - Discussion on Market Needs and Solution Development"I kid you not, my earliest memories involve playing role-playing games with my childhood friends where I was signing checks."[31:27] - Vision for a Seamless Real Estate Experience"I've always promoted and highlighted issues, even if I wasn’t the founder or creator."[42:11] - Building Trust in Philippine Real Estate: A Digital Solution "I didn’t feel safe. Despite dealing with legitimate brokers, the anxiety of 120,000 reported real estate scammers in the Philippines lingered until I held the keys. I kept wondering.why hasn’t this been solved yet?"[53:51] - Conclusion and Future Aspirations"Just the way you discuss this issue, your previous achievements, and the team you are building indicate you're set to do something truly amazing."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Crystal Lee Gonzalez: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalleegonzalez/ NoneAway : https://www.linkedin.com/company/noneaway/ PICK.A.ROO:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/pickaroo/ Canva : https://www.linkedin.com/company/canva/ Honestbee: https://www.linkedin.com/company/honestbee/ Viber: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rakuten-viber/ Tribal World : https://www.linkedin.com/company/tribal-worldwide/ Lazada: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lazada/ Yahoo: https://www.linkedin.com/company/yahoo/ Websites:   NoneAway: https://noneaway.com/ PICK.A.ROO: https://pickaroo.com/ Canva: https://www.canva.com/ Honestbee: https://www.honestbee.com/ Viber:https://www.forbusiness.viber.com/Lazada : https://group.lazada.com/Yahoo: https://www.yahooinc.com/ _________________________________ Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Feb 12, 2025 • 36min

How AI is Changing Product Management Forever with Diana Stepner

Welcome to UNLEARN, the podcast where we explore the stories, strategies, and mindset shifts that drive real innovation and growth. Today, I’m glad to be joined by Diana Stepner, a true trailblazer in the world of product management and people-centered leadership.A Silicon Valley native, Diana has spent over two decades building and leading global product teams for companies like Monster, Cheapflights (later acquired by Kayak), Salesforce, and Razorfish. As Co-Founder, at Product Gold and Former VP of Product Management at Pearson, she has honed her expertise in creating impactful solutions. Along the way, she discovered that while launching great products is exciting, helping people launch their careers is even more rewarding..Diana’s passion for fostering talent and preparing organizations for the future shines in her new book, Next-Gen Product Management: Future Proof Your Career. It’s a must-read for anyone navigating the rapidly evolving landscape of technology, teams, and innovation.We dive into her journey, the lessons she’s learned, and the practical advice she has for product leaders looking to thrive in an ever-changing world.Check out her website at www.dianastepner.com to learn more. Key Takeaways:Product vs. Project Management: Diana explains the key differences.  Supercharging Product Managers: How top contributors maximize impact.  Winning with Teams: The power of cross-functional collaboration.  Breaking Into Product Management: Trends shaping new career moves.Additional Insights:The Product Gold Framework, Diana shows how adaptability and empathy unlock market opportunities.  Engagement in the Digital Age by mastering attention in a world full of distractions.  Thinking Differently in Business: How challenging norms drives big advancements.Prepare for an enlightening discussion with Diana Stepner on transforming traditional product strategies and fostering a culture of creativity and innovation.Episode Highlights: [00:33] -Episode Introduction "One of the trends that we're seeing in product management is this rise of a super IC. People are able to do a whole lot more because of AI than they could have done before."[01:33] - Guest Introduction "Today, we’re joined by Diana Stepner, an expert in product management and people-centered leadership. Diana has built leading global product teams at companies like Product Gold, Monster, Salesforce, and Razorfish."[03:08] - Shift from Project to Product Management "People kept saying, 'Oh, you're a project manager.' And I'm like, 'No, I'm not a project manager. I am a product manager.' Over time, people began to realize that it actually was a skill or an expertise."[10:44] - The Role of Collaboration in Product Management (corrected from 10:49) "You need all of those instruments to come together to really make the music sing, and companies still don't realize that."[16:08] - The Rise of Super ICs "You're having these people be able to go much farther down the development path than what they did previously. And I think that's fascinating because it makes total sense."[19:18] - The Evolution of the Mini-CEO & One-Person Unicorns "For me, it feels like it's the incarnation of the mini-CEO. Now there's this billion-dollar unicorn narrative where one person is expected to do everything with AI."[27:00] - The Role of Asynchronous Communication & AI in Workflow Efficiency "It's funny, sometimes people get freaked out when I summarize a meeting in three minutes and email them key points before they've even left the call!"[30:48] - The Future of Product Management "I believe we need to evolve, but that also means we need to welcome in the next generation who bring their own unique perspectives."[35:33] - Conclusion and Next-Gen Product Management Book Promotion "My book, Next Gen Product Management, is for those who want to future-proof their careers and thrive in this evolving industry."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Diana Stepner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianas/ Product Gold : https://www.linkedin.com/company/productgold/ Monster: https://www.linkedin.com/company/monster/ KAYAK: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kayak/ Salesforce: https://www.linkedin.com/company/salesforce/ RazorFish: https://www.linkedin.com/company/razorfish/ Pearson: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pearson/ Websites:   Personal Website: https://www.dianastepner.com Product Gold: https://www.productgold.com/ Monster: https://www.monster.com/  KAYAK: https://www.kayak.com/ Saleforce: https://www.salesforce.com/ap/ RazorFish: https://www.razorfish.com/ Pearson: https://www.pearson.com/ Get your copy of Next-Gen Product Management today! Order now at https://www.nextgenproductmanagement.com/ _________________________________ Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Jan 29, 2025 • 35min

How the Attention Economy is Redefining Traditional Marketing with Emily Ross

Emily Ross, co-author of Just Evil Enough, is a brand strategist with a unique blend of marketing and circus performance experience. She discusses subversive marketing strategies, emphasizing how creativity can transform challenges into opportunities. Emily highlights the attention economy's impact on marketing, drawing lessons from disruptors like Tesla. She believes that turning flaws into strengths can lead to powerful advantages, advocating for consistency as the key to success, rather than mere brilliance.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 48min

How Product Managers Can Avoid Startup Failures and Drive Growth with John Cutler

Welcome to the UNLEARN Podcast! Today, we’re joined by a thought leader and prolific voice in product management and organizational design, John Cutler. With a unique ability to navigate the “beautiful mess” of product development, John has spent his career exploring the complex overlaps of product, UX, and strategy.Currently serving as Head of Product at Dotwork, John has previously held impactful roles such as Senior Director of Product Enablement at Toast and Product Evangelist at Amplitude, where he collaborated with thousands of product teams worldwide. His extensive experience spans B2B SaaS giants like Zendesk, Pendo, and AppFolio, as well as B2C, ad-tech, banking, and media industries.Known for his insightful writing, John has authored nearly a thousand posts across various platforms, captivating readers with his deep understanding of product dynamics. Whether you’re seeking to level up your product thinking or gain practical tips on team enablement, John’s expertise offers unparalleled insights.Key Takeaways:The Beautiful Mess of Product Development: John’s approach to embracing complexity and context in product management to uncover innovative solutions.Unlearning and Growth: How letting go of rigid practices and adapting to change can unlock greater potential for teams and leaders.Writing as a Catalyst for learning: The power of consistent writing in shaping ideas, refining strategies, and building meaningful connections in the product community.Additional Insights:Product Ecosystems in Flux: John talks about the dynamic nature of product management, highlighting how roles and best practices evolve with organizational and market shifts.Gamifying the Creative Process: Insights into how John uses tools and techniques to make writing, ideation, and problem-solving more engaging and productive.Rethinking Organizational Models: Exploring how companies can overcome challenges by reimagining structures, roles, and team dynamics for the modern era.Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation with John Cutler on embracing complexity, fostering innovation, and mastering the art of unlearning!Episode Highlights: 00:36 - Episode Introduction"I don't think we need a product manager for every 4 to 7 people. A software as a service company is much more of a service ecology." 01:15 - Introducing John Cutler"John is one of the most insightful voices in product management, with a career spanning roles at Toast, Amplitude, and beyond."03:46 - Discovering the "Beautiful Mess" of Product"I’ve always been fascinated by the overlaps—where product, UX, and strategy collide in unpredictable ways."11:27 - The Importance of Writing and Sharing Ideas"I realized that writing wasn’t just for others—it was for me to process and refine my thinking."15:59 - Finding Your Path Through Experimentation"Everybody finds their way if you're willing to experiment and try. It's like software—the rate of iteration and the velocity of creation allow you to refine and improve over time."33:06 - Lessons in Unlearning"It’s not just about adopting new practices; it’s about letting go of the ones that no longer serve the team or the context."40:59 - What Excites John About the Future of the Industry"The future of product management lies in embracing complexity and experimenting with new ways to scale and deliver value."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: John Cutler: www.linkedin.com/in/johnpcutler/ Dotwork: www.linkedin.com/company/dotworklabs/ Toast: www.linkedin.com/company/toast-inc/ Amplitude: www.linkedin.com/company/amplitude-analytics/ Zendesk: www.linkedin.com/company/zendesk/ Pendo: www.linkedin.com/company/pendo-io/ Websites:   Dotwork: www.dotwork.com/ Toast: www.pos.toasttab.com/ Amplitude: www.amplitude.com/  Zendesk: www.zendesk.com/ Pendo: www.pendo.io/ _________________________________ Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Dec 18, 2024 • 31min

Proven Strategies to Create Accountability Without Agency with Lee Vorthman

Welcome to the UNLEARN Podcast! Today, we’re joined by Lee Vorthman, Vice President of Strategic Security Initiatives at Oracle. Lee leads a global team to protect and strengthen Oracle's operations. He is also a Global CISO Advisory Board Member at HMG Strategy and an Advisory Board Member for Phoenix Security. His career began in the US Navy, and he has since held key roles across defense, technology, cloud, education, and oil & gas industries. Lee’s past roles include Chief Security Officer for Oracle's Advertising group, leading Global Security Engineering at Pearson Education, and serving as Chief Technology Officer for Federal Civilian Agencies at NetApp. In this episode, Lee shares insights on leveraging technology for growth, navigating cultural transformations, and building resilient organizations.Key Takeaways:Mastering Security Fundamentals: Lee highlights the importance of staying grounded in foundational security practices while adopting innovative technologies like AI to address evolving challenges.Building Trust and Influence: Discover Lee’s techniques for fostering collaboration, psychological safety, and cultural change to drive impactful security initiatives.The Power of Diverse Skills: Learn why developing a broad skill set across disciplines like engineering, finance, and HR is essential for empathetic leadership and effective problem-solving.Additional Insights:Cultural Change in Security: Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation with Lee Vorthman on leadership, innovation, and building resilient organizations!Balancing Speed and Resilience: Insights on how businesses can prioritize innovation while maintaining strong operational fundamentals.The Future of Cybersecurity: Exploring emerging trends like AI and their implications for addressing new and complex threats.Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation with Lee Vorthman on leadership, innovation, and building resilient organizations!Episode Highlights: 00:36 - Episode Introduction"We're always going to have new technologies. But that doesn't negate the fact that you still have to master the fundamentals."01: 03 - Barry introduces Lee Vorthman as a seasoned cybersecurity expert and VP of Strategic Security Initiatives at Oracle.02:27 - Personal Background and Military Influence"I grew up in a military household and started in technology before joining the military."05:33 - Evolution of Security Leadership"Security leadership now touches every aspect of a business, requiring a broad understanding beyond just technology."11:15 - Navigating Accountability vs. Ownership"In the civilian world, I’m accountable for risks I don’t always own, which requires building alliances."15:05 - Techniques for Overcoming Resistance"Two techniques I use to convince people: the switcheroo and Jedi mind trick for breaking resistance."22:35 - Challenges in the Security Industry"The industry tends to chase shiny new technologies while neglecting critical fundamentals."28:06 - Excitement About Emerging Technologies“I love when new technology comes out because it allows security people to put their hats on to make it  safe.”30:25 - Closing Remarks"It’s been an amazing journey, and I appreciate sharing these stories on the podcast."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Lee Vorthman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leevorthman/Oracle:https://www.linkedin.com/company/oracle/US Navy: https://www.linkedin.com/company/us-navy/HMG Strategy: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hmg-strategy-llc/Phoenix Security: https://www.linkedin.com/company/phoenixsecuritycloud/Evanta, a Gartner Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/evanta/Websites:   Lee Vorthman (Blog): https://blog.370security.com/author/lee1fbb48c29971/Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/US Navy: https://www.navy.mil/HMG Strategy: https://hmgstrategy.com/Phoenix Security: https://phoenix.security/Evanta, a Gartner Company: https://www.evanta.com/_________________________________ Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com
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Dec 4, 2024 • 47min

Why Unlearning Cultural Norms Is Essential for Thriving in Global Leadership with Ani Filipova

Welcome to the UNLEARN Podcast! Today, we’re joined by an inspiring leader in global banking and transformation, Ani Filipova. With over two decades of experience, Ani has made her mark as a former international banking executive, setting up and managing three banks, including Citibank Bulgaria. She also led the transformation of a $2 billion business across 16 countries as Regional COO for Citibank Treasury and Trade Solutions in Asia.Ani’s path to success was anything but conventional. Fueled by a passion for travel, she overcame rejections and seized every opportunity to explore the world and build a remarkable career. Now, Ani is reshaping her journey through a “portfolio career,” as the Founder & CEO of Change Advisory, drawing from her wealth of experience to inspire others with insights on leadership, transformation, and reinvention. Key Takeaways:Exploring Beyond Boundaries: Ani’s journey of growing up behind the Iron Curtain, finding creative ways to explore the world despite restrictions.Speaking Up and Taking Risks: Strategies Ani used to conquer anxiety, master the art of speaking up, and embrace bold decisions in high-stakes situations.Global Team Collaboration: Insights on fostering alignment and driving collaboration across diverse teams to achieve success in complex, multinational organizations.  Additional Insights:Embracing Change: Ani highlights the challenges and rewards of adapting to digital transformation.Cross-Cultural Collaboration: Understanding local customs as a foundation for trust and teamwork.Unlearning to Grow: Letting go of old habits to thrive in evolving business landscapes.Get ready for an inspiring and transformative conversation with Ani Filipova on embracing change, leadership, and the power of reinvention!Episode Highlights: 00:36 - Episode Introduction"If you don't speak up, if you don't show your work. If you don't share your opinions, that's not good at all.01:27 - Introduction to the Episode: Barry introduces Ani Filipova‘’Ani Filipova, an inspiring leader whose journey spans across continents, industries, and perspectives’’03:10 - Growing Up Behind the Iron Curtain"I saw the world through books... Pippi Longstocking inspired me to dream about traveling to far-off places."12:59 - Leadership Across Cultures"You can’t pretend to care about people’s aspirations—you have to truly understand what drives them to build trust and alignment."25:01 - Overcoming Personal Challenges in Leadership "I realized I needed to stop taking everything personally—it was a turning point that helped me approach challenges more confidently." 27:56 - Speaking Up in Leadership Meetings "I remember waiting for the right moment to contribute, and when I did, the adrenaline rush was overwhelming, but it was worth it."37:44 - Adapting Banking to the Digital Era "Transitioning from three-day payments to three-second transactions required rethinking systems, processes, and customer expectations."42:11 - The Challenge of Unlearning"To succeed in today’s fast-changing world, leaders must unlearn old habits and embrace continuous listening and collaboration."45:33 - Closing Reflections"It’s about reinvention—helping others see their own potential and embrace transformation in their careers."Follow Our GuestLinkedIn Accounts: Ani Filipova:  www.linkedin.com/in/anifilipova Citibank: www.linkedin.com/company/citi Change Advisory: www.linkedin.com/company/the-change-advisory AdVentura Works SA.: www.linkedin.com/company/adventura-works Websites:   Ani Filipova - Change Advisory: www.anifilipova.meCitibank: www.citigroup.com/global AdVentura Works SA.: www.adventura.works _________________________________ Download my free innovation map I use to help companies like Google and Nike figure out the gap between their current state and desired state.Download Now: https://bit.ly/InnovationPortfolioWorkbook FOLLOW THE HOST:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryoreilly Personal site: https://barryoreilly.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barryoreillyauthor/ Twitter: https://x.com/barryoreilly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryoreilly/ Email: hello@barryoreilly.com

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