
TandTeaching - The Educational Podcast
The education podcast that you can listen to with a cup of Tea with Arthur Moore and Mike Harrowell.
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On TandTeaching Mike and Arthur speak with a range of people from across the world of education including teachers, middle and senior leaders, headteachers, educational consultants, authors, entrepreneurs and many more.
Latest episodes

Mar 24, 2025 • 24min
Oracy in your classroom - with Yamina Bibi PART THREE
"Reflect on who spoke and who didn't.""It's about helping them build those skills.""Build on the things that you already know."In this episode of TandTeaching, hosts Arthur Moore and Mike Harrowell, along with guest Yamina Bibi, delve into the importance of oracy in education. They discuss practical strategies for implementing oracy in the classroom, including planning for discussions, engaging students during lessons, and reflecting on the effectiveness of oracy practices post-lesson. The conversation emphasizes the need for explicit teaching of discussion habits, the role of vocabulary in enhancing communication, and the importance of giving every student a voice in discussions. The episode concludes with actionable tips for teachers to immediately apply in their classrooms.Oracy, Education, Classroom Strategies, Teaching Tips, Student Engagement, Discussion Techniques, Reflective Practice, Vocabulary Development, Teaching Methods, Professional Development

Mar 10, 2025 • 18min
The Role of Oracy in Schools - with Yamina Bibi : Part Two
"Oracy is not the outcome, oracy is the vehicle.""The stories we tell are key to building buy-in.""Values are lived, not laminated."In this episode, the hosts discuss the importance of oracy in education, focusing on how to implement a whole school approach to teaching communication skills. They explore the challenges faced by educators, the role of leadership in promoting oracy, and the significance of storytelling in building buy-in from staff and students. The conversation emphasizes the need for a collaborative effort across departments to create a culture of effective communication in schools.Empowering Students Through OracyKeywords:oracy, education, teaching, school leadership, communication skills, vocabulary, dialogic teaching, student engagement, literacy, classroom strategies

Feb 24, 2025 • 19min
The Power of Oracy with Yamina Bibi - PART ONE
"Oracy creates good literacy.""We need to value oracy in education.""Without oracy, nothing else will work."---Guest - Yamina Bibihttps://www.yaminabibi.co.uk/ A Little Guide for Teachers: Thriving in Your First Years of Teaching - https://amzn.to/3ETQ34c---SummaryIn this episode of TandTeaching, hosts Arthur Moore and Mike Harrowell discuss the concept of oracy in education with guest Yamina Bibi. They explore the historical context of oracy, its significance in the classroom, and its role across various subjects. The conversation emphasizes the importance of teaching both speaking and listening skills, the impact of assessment changes on oracy, and the need for a whole-school approach to effectively integrate oracy into the curriculum.

Feb 20, 2025 • 41min
TandTeaching Live from Inner Drive and CIRL's T&L Summit at Eton 2025
Sound Bites
"AI is a tool, not the tool."
"Attention is like currency."
"Cramming is a good way to remember more."
"Good teaching is SEND teaching."
"Our values are lived, not laminated."
"We should adapt to different contexts."
"We can't just take something off the shelf."
"We need to codify our culture."
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This episode of TandTeaching captures the essence of the Inner Drive Teaching Learning Summit, featuring insightful discussions on AI in education, metacognition, and the importance of relationships in teaching.
The hosts, Arthur and Mike, reflect on keynotes and sessions, sharing takeaways from various speakers, including strategies for engaging students, creating inclusive classrooms, and fostering a positive school culture. The conversation emphasizes the need for continuous professional development and adapting teaching methods to meet diverse needs.

Feb 10, 2025 • 27min
Learning and Performance with Amarbeer Singh Gill : Part Three
"Lowering or impairing that short-term performance will actually lead to better learning.""Struggle to start the lesson. We repeat it at the end.""There's nothing wrong with reusing those same questions."In this episode, Singh shares three guiding principles for focusing on learning rather than performance in the classroom. The first principle is understanding that there will always be a difference between what is taught and what is learned. The second principle is that learning is invisible, and measuring short-term performance helps lay the foundations for long-term learning. The third principle is that intentionally impairing short-term performance can lead to better learning. Singh also discusses techniques such as retrieval practice and distributed practice that can support student learning.TakeawaysThere is a difference between what is taught and what is learned, so teachers should not assume that just because they have taught something, students have learned it.Measuring short-term performance can help lay the foundations for long-term learning.Intentionally impairing short-term performance can lead to better learning outcomes.Techniques such as retrieval practice and distributed practice can support student learning.Keywordslearning, performance, classroom, teaching, principles, retrieval practice, distributed practice

Jan 27, 2025 • 23min
Performance and Learning with Amarbeer Singh Gill - Part Two
"It's better to dig a deep learning pit and keep students in there for a sustained period of time than digging shallow ones and getting them out of it quickly."
"Learning is hard, but it has to be accessible."
"It's really challenging to measure learning and progress. We can't accurately replicate performance every single time."
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To learn more about the Inner Drive Teacher Academy just email
tandt@innerdrive.co.uk
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In this episode, Mike, Arthur and Guest Singh discuss the concept of learning versus performance in schools. They explore the challenges of measuring learning, the importance of creating a learning culture, and the need for accessible challenges. They also discuss the role of school leadership in promoting learning and the difficulties of assessing progress. The conversation highlights the need for a shared understanding of learning and performance and the importance of planning and sequencing curriculum to support deep learning.
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To learn more about the Inner Drive Teacher Academy just email
tandt@innerdrive.co.uk
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learning, performance, schools, education, curriculum, teaching, challenges, culture, assessment, progress

Jan 13, 2025 • 25min
Learning and Performance with Amarbeer Singh Gill - Part One
"Why are we bad at learning stuff?"
"We can't see learning. Like I can't open up your head and see whether you've learned fractions or like how to shoot a basketball properly or know how a particular art technique."
"When does something become truly learned? Can you hold onto a piece of information for eternity without using it on a regular basis?"
In this episode, Singh discusses the difference between learning and performance. He shares his experiences as a teacher and explains how students can struggle to retain information even after successfully performing a task. Singh emphasizes the importance of revisiting information over time to ensure long-term learning. The conversation also touches on the challenges of assessing learning versus performance and the idea of when something can be considered truly learned. The hosts and Singh discuss the implications of these concepts for teachers and the need to prioritize learning over simply teaching to perform.

Dec 9, 2024 • 23min
Processing Times with Dr Pippa Busch - Part Three
"Allowing more time is a very good strategy to solve a lot of those problems."
"Fundamentally good teaching is one of the best things to help any student with any kind of diverse need."
"It's all about getting to know the kids and your professional judgment on that and backing yourself as well."
Arthur and Mike continue their discussion on processing times in education, focusing on neurodiverse students. They are joined by Dr. Pippa Busch, who provides insights and strategies for supporting neurodiverse students in the classroom. They discuss the concept of neurodiversity and the various conditions that fall under it, such as autism, ADHD, dyslexia, and more. They emphasize the importance of individualized support and the need for teachers to build strong relationships with their students. Strategies discussed include allowing more time, front-loading, scaffolding, and celebrating successes.

Nov 25, 2024 • 23min
Processing Time with Pippa Busch - Part Two
"We create the culture in our classrooms."
"Routines reduce cognitive overload."
"Embrace the silence for thinking time."
In this episode of TandTeaching, hosts Arthur Moore and Mike Harrowell, along with Dr. Pippa Busch, delve into the significance of processing time in education.
They discuss strategies for creating a safe learning environment, the importance of wait time, and how to frame questions effectively to enhance student engagement. The conversation also touches on the variability of processing speed among students and the necessity of normalizing mistakes in the classroom to foster a culture of learning. The episode provides practical tips for teachers to implement these concepts in their classrooms, ultimately aiming to improve student outcomes and create a supportive educational atmosphere.

Nov 4, 2024 • 22min
Processing Times with Dr Pippa Busch - Part One
"I break processing into three different areas with their input, the processing and the output."
Dr. Pippa Busch, a child and educational psychologist, discusses the concept of processing time in education. She breaks down the process into three stages: input, processing, and output.
The input stage involves sensory organs converting stimuli into neural signals.
The processing stage involves working memory and long-term memory, as well as decision-making and planning responses.
The output stage is the response to the information received. Dr. Busch emphasizes that processing time varies for each individual and is influenced by factors such as experience, genetics, stress levels, and sleep. She also highlights the importance of creating a safe space for learning and normalizing mistakes in the classroom.