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Sep 27, 2021 • 17min
150. The Evolution Of The Neurohormonal Hypothesis With Dr. Milton Packer: Part 5 – The Ejected Fraction Of A Destroyed Heart
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal, Daniel Ambinder) and Dr. Mark Belkin, (CardioNerds Correspondent) and Dr. Shirlene Obuobi (CardioNerds Ambassador) from University of Chicago are honored to bring to you the Dr. Milton Packer perspective on the evolution of the neurohormonal hypothesis as part of The CardioNerds Heart Success Series.
In part 5, Dr. Packer shares his thoughts on the term “guideline directed medical therapy,” guidelines in general, and the challenges of using the ejection fraction to measure systolic function.
Check out the CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series Page for more heart success episodes and content!
This is a non CME episode. Disclosures: Milton Packer reports receiving consulting fees from Abbvie, Actavis, Amgen, Amarin, AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol Myers Squibb, Casana, CSL Behring, Cytokinetics, Johnson & Johnson Health Care Systems Inc., Eli Lilly and Company, Moderna, Novartis, ParatusRx, Pfizer, Relypsa, Salamandra, Synthetic Biologics, Teva Pharmaceuticals USA Inc. and Theravance Biopharma Inc.
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This CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series was created in memory of Dr. David Taylor. We thank our partners at the Heart Failure Society of America which is a multidisciplinary organization working to improve and expand heart failure care through collaboration, education, research, innovation, and advocacy. Its members include physicians, scientists, nurses, nurse practitioners, and pharmacists. Learn more at hfsa.org.

Sep 27, 2021 • 14min
149. The Evolution Of The Neurohormonal Hypothesis With Dr. Milton Packer: Part 4 – SGLT2 Inhibitors – Under-Promised & Over-Delivered
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal, Daniel Ambinder) and Dr. Mark Belkin, (CardioNerds Correspondent) and Dr. Shirlene Obuobi (CardioNerds Ambassador) from University of Chicago are honored to bring to you the Dr. Milton Packer perspective on the evolution of the neurohormonal hypothesis as part of The CardioNerds Heart Success Series.
In part 4, Dr. Packer shares his perspective on the revolutionary SGLT2 inhibors. We discuss the mechanisms of action and the data regarding their role in the care of heart failure patients. This episode is particularly historic in that Dr. Packer shares his thoughts about the EMPEROR-PRESERVED trial well before the data was available. Also see Dr. Mark Belkin's DocWire News article EMPEROR’s New Groove? Empagliflozin Provides Long-Awaited Treatment for HFpEF where Dr. Packer is quoted as saying “we are pleased to have the first trial in patients with HFpEF that shows an unequivocally positive and clinically important result. We are looking forward to many secondary papers that will provide detailed information about what we have found, and what it means for patients.”
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This is a non CME episode. Disclosures: Milton Packer reports receiving consulting fees from Abbvie, Actavis, Amgen, Amarin, AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol Myers Squibb, Casana, CSL Behring, Cytokinetics, Johnson & Johnson Health Care Systems Inc., Eli Lilly and Company, Moderna, Novartis, ParatusRx, Pfizer, Relypsa, Salamandra, Synthetic Biologics, Teva Pharmaceuticals USA Inc. and Theravance Biopharma Inc.
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This CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series was created in memory of Dr. David Taylor. We thank our partners at the Heart Failure Society of America which is a multidisciplinary organization working to improve and expand heart failure care through collaboration, education, research, innovation, and advocacy. Its members include physicians, scientists, nurses, nurse practitioners, and pharmacists. Learn more at hfsa.org.

Sep 20, 2021 • 0sec
148. The Evolution Of The Neurohormonal Hypothesis With Dr. Milton Packer: Part 3 – Neutral Trials, A 2nd Chance, & A Paradigm Shift
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal, Daniel Ambinder) and Dr. Mark Belkin, (CardioNerds Correspondent) and Dr. Shirlene Obuobi (CardioNerds Ambassador) from University of Chicago are honored to bring to you the Dr. Milton Packer perspective on the evolution of the neurohormonal hypothesis as part of The CardioNerds Heart Success Series. In part 3 Dr. Packer reflects on the value of neutral trials and recounts the journey that led to the PARADIGM Trial
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This is a non CME episode. Disclosures: Milton Packer reports receiving consulting fees from Abbvie, Actavis, Amgen, Amarin, AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol Myers Squibb, Casana, CSL Behring, Cytokinetics, Johnson & Johnson Health Care Systems Inc., Eli Lilly and Company, Moderna, Novartis, ParatusRx, Pfizer, Relypsa, Salamandra, Synthetic Biologics, Teva Pharmaceuticals USA Inc. and Theravance Biopharma Inc.
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This CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series was created in memory of Dr. David Taylor. We thank our partners at the Heart Failure Society of America which is a multidisciplinary organization working to improve and expand heart failure care through collaboration, education, research, innovation, and advocacy. Its members include physicians, scientists, nurses, nurse practitioners, and pharmacists. Learn more at hfsa.org.

Sep 20, 2021 • 15min
147. The Evolution Of The Neurohormonal Hypothesis With Dr. Milton Packer: Part 2 – The Secret To Happiness, The “Aha” Moment, & The Birth Of The Neurohormonal Hypothesis
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal, Daniel Ambinder) and Dr. Mark Belkin, (CardioNerds Correspondent) and Dr. Shirlene Obuobi (CardioNerds Ambassador) from University of Chicago are honored to bring to you the Dr. Milton Packer perspective on the evolution of the neurohormonal hypothesis as part of The CardioNerds Heart Success Series. In part 2 Dr. Packer shares his journey as the trailing spouse and tells the story of how the neurohormonal hypothesis was developed.
Check out the CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series Page for more heart success episodes and content!
This is a non CME episode. Disclosures: Milton Packer reports receiving consulting fees from Abbvie, Actavis, Amgen, Amarin, AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol Myers Squibb, Casana, CSL Behring, Cytokinetics, Johnson & Johnson Health Care Systems Inc., Eli Lilly and Company, Moderna, Novartis, ParatusRx, Pfizer, Relypsa, Salamandra, Synthetic Biologics, Teva Pharmaceuticals USA Inc. and Theravance Biopharma Inc.
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This CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series was created in memory of Dr. David Taylor. We thank our partners at the Heart Failure Society of America which is a multidisciplinary organization working to improve and expand heart failure care through collaboration, education, research, innovation, and advocacy. Its members include physicians, scientists, nurses, nurse practitioners, and pharmacists. Learn more at hfsa.org.

Sep 19, 2021 • 26min
146. The Evolution Of The Neurohormonal Hypothesis With Dr. Milton Packer: Part 1 – Taking Risks, Upsetting People, & Disrupting The Status Quo
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal, Daniel Ambinder) and Dr. Mark Belkin, (CardioNerds Correspondent) and Dr. Shirlene Obuobi (CardioNerds Ambassador) from University of Chicago are honored to bring to you the Dr. Milton Packer perspective on the evolution of the neurohormonal hypothesis as part of The CardioNerds Heart Success Series.
In part 1 Dr. Packer discusses taking risks, upsetting people and the ridiculousness of humanity and how stand-up comedy helped contribute and shape his career in cardiovascular medicine. Dr. Packer also discusses how the study of afterload agents in heart failure and the discovery of tachyphylaxis with prazosin helped inspire a long and prosperous career in academic cardiology by changing the status quo.
Check out the CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series Page for more heart success episodes and content!
This is a non CME episode. Disclosures: Milton Packer reports receiving consulting fees from Abbvie, Actavis, Amgen, Amarin, AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol Myers Squibb, Casana, CSL Behring, Cytokinetics, Johnson & Johnson Health Care Systems Inc., Eli Lilly and Company, Moderna, Novartis, ParatusRx, Pfizer, Relypsa, Salamandra, Synthetic Biologics, Teva Pharmaceuticals USA Inc. and Theravance Biopharma Inc.
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This CardioNerds Heart Failure Success Series was created in memory of Dr. David Taylor. We thank our partners at the Heart Failure Society of America which is a multidisciplinary organization working to improve and expand heart failure care through collaboration, education, research, innovation, and advocacy. Its members include physicians, scientists, nurses, nurse practitioners, and pharmacists. Learn more at hfsa.org.

Sep 14, 2021 • 1h 4min
145. ACHD: Pregnancy and Congenital Heart Disease with Dr. Carole Warnes
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal and Daniel Ambinder), ACHD series co-chair Dr. Agnes Koczo (UPMC), and ACHD FIT lead Dr. Katia Bravo (UCLA) join ACHD expert Dr. Carole Warnes (Professor of Medicine and founder of the Adult Congenital Heart Disease Clinic at Mayo Clinic), to discuss adult congenial heart disease and pregnancy. They cover preconception counseling in women with congenital heart disease, appropriate risk stratification to estimate maternal and neonatal morbidity using existing tools and an individualized care approach and preparation for a multidisciplinary delivery plan. Audio editing by CardioNerds Academy Intern, Dr. Leticia Helms.
The CardioNerds Adult Congenital Heart Disease (ACHD) series provides a comprehensive curriculum to dive deep into the labyrinthine world of congenital heart disease with the aim of empowering every CardioNerd to help improve the lives of people living with congenital heart disease. This series is multi-institutional collaborative project made possible by contributions of stellar fellow leads and expert faculty from several programs, led by series co-chairs, Dr. Josh Saef, Dr. Agnes Koczo, and Dr. Dan Clark.
The CardioNerds Adult Congenital Heart Disease Series is developed in collaboration with the Adult Congenital Heart Association, The CHiP Network, and Heart University. See more
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Pearls
Women with congenital heart disease can safely carry a pregnancy if appropriate risk stratification and management is performed by an expert multidisciplinary cardio-obstetrics team.There are a myriad of hemodynamic and vascular changes which impact congenital cardiac physiology and evolve throughout the different stages of pregnancy. Therefore, planning is key. An evaluation of heart rate response to exercise and optimization of potential factors that could worsen during pregnancy, such as arrhythmias, are recommended.Maternal morbidity & mortality risk-stratification systems such as the modified WHO, CARPREG or ZAHARA criteria are helpful starting points. Ultimately, each patient requires individualization given the heterogeneity that exists among congenital heart defects.Vaginal delivery is generally preferred over C-section from a cardiac standpoint. An assisted second stage of labor during the period of greatest hemodynamics changes should also be considered if vaginal delivery is pursued.
Show notes
Pregnancy and Adult Congential Heart Disease: Created by Dr. Katia Bravo and Dr. Teodora Donisan and reviewed by Dr. Candice Silversides
1. Why is preconception counseling important in women with congenital heart disease and what does it entail?
Ensuring women with congenital heart disease are optimized prior to conception decreases maternal and neonatal complications. For this reason, preconception counseling is paramount for these patients.In addition, counseling leads to patients making more informed decisions about family planning.The integral parts of preconception counseling include: (1) discussing the current anatomical and physiological status, (2) discussing possible complications during pregnancy specific to the patient's congenital heart defect (with genetic counseling referral if appropriate), (3) evaluating cardiac medications, taking into account benefits vs teratogenic potential, (4) discussing and planning for necessary pre-pregnancy tests or interventions (exercise stress testing is an important tool in evaluating how the patient will tolerate the stressors of pregnancy), (5) organizing antepartum care with high-risk obstetrics teams, (6) discussing location,

Sep 5, 2021 • 41min
144. Case Report: A Mother with Shortness of Breath – Pushing Against All Odds – Allegheny General Hospital
CardioNerds (Amit Goyal and Daniel Ambinder) join Dr. Kushani Gajjar and Dr. Mitha Naik from the Allegheny Health Network for a walk along the Three Rivers Trail in Pittsburgh. They discuss a case of young woman in her third trimester of pregnancy with a known history of pulmonary arterial hypertension. The management of pulmonary hypertension in pregnancy and RV failure in the context of pregnancy is described. The E-CPR segment is provided by Dr. Nandita Scott, Co-Director Corrigan Women's Heart Health Program and Cardiovascular Disease and Pregnancy Service at Massachusetts General Hospital. Special cameo appearance by Dr. Dani Crousillat.
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Patient Summary - Pulmonary Hypertension in Pregnancy
A 33-year-old woman in the third trimester of pregnancy, with a known history of untreated PAH in the setting of TKI therapy, presents with shortness of breath. She is found to have PA pressure greater than systemic pressure with PASP >130. We describe the management of PH and RV failure in the context of a pregnancy. The patient was admitted to the ICU where a multidisciplinary team was mobilized, involving high risk ob-gyn, maternal fetal medicine, critical care, anesthesiology, and advanced heart failure. They began pulmonary vasodilators including treprostinil, tadalafil and inhaled nitric oxide. They also added inotropic and vasopressor support for right ventricular dysfunction with her severe PAH. Fetal heart monitoring was performed. PAH also led to worsening of known chronic thrombocytopenia in the setting of CML. HELLP syndrome was ruled out. The patient had preterm rupture of membranes at 32 weeks of gestation and the team pursued assisted vaginal delivery to prevent vagal response. Following successful delivery, the patient elected to undergo intra-uterine device placement. Post-delivery, vasopressors and inotropes were weaned, and she was discharged on treprostinil, ambrisentan and tadalafil. Thankfully both the mother and baby returned healthy and well at 1 month follow up.
Case Media - Pulmonary Hypertension in Pregnancy
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Episode Teaching - Pulmonary Hypertension in Pregnancy
Pearls - Pulmonary Hypertension in Pregnancy
Pulmonary Hypertension is defined as a mean pulmonary arterial pressure (mPAP) of >20mmHg. There are 5 major types of pulmonary hypertension. Risk modifiers include symptom burden, exercise capacity, presence of pericardial effusion, RV function and hemodynamics.Multidisciplinary care teams are the key to achieving optimal pregnancy outcomes in patients with PH. It is critical to create a team of experts with experience in pulmonary hypertension and plan for constant communication before, during, and after pregnancy.Pregnant women who are already on PAH therapy outpatient should continue them during pregnancy (under the direction of PH experts) except for endothelin receptor blockers which fall in pregnancy category X.PH during pregnancy is associated with up to 38% maternal mortality rate as the right ventricle (RV) is often unable to handle the volume shifts and hemodynamic changes that occur during pregnancy, labor, and delivery.Patients with RV failure leading to low cardiac output and hypotension, like in this case,

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Sep 1, 2021 • 36min
143. Lipids: (Non)-Fasting LDL & Furious Lipid Lowering with Dr. Alison Bailey
CardioNerds Dr. Rick Ferraro, Director of the #CardsJC Journal Club and cardiology fellow at Johns Hopkins, and Dr. Tommy Das, Program Director of the CardioNerds Academy and cardiology fellow at Cleveland Clinic, learn all about the clinical application of the ASCVD primary and secondary prevention guidelines in terms of lifestyle modifications and lipid lowering strategies from Dr. Allison Bailey, Editor-in-Chief of the ACCEL Audio Journal and Advanced Heart Failure and Transplant Cardiologist at Centennial Heart. Dr. Baily was a co-author on the 2018 ACC/AHA Guideline on the Management of Blood Cholesterol.
In this episode we will learn about the current guidelines for primary prevention of ASCVD, the evidence for specific dietary changes in improving cardiovascular outcomes, the current guidelines for secondary prevention of ASCVD, how successful are clinicians and patients in meeting LDL-C recommendations, and what the recent SAMSON trial teaches us about statin intolerance.
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Qoatables - Lipid Lowering with Dr. Alison Bailey
“Lifestyle should be the first step and the last step of everything we do.”
Pearls - Lipid Lowering with Dr. Alison Bailey
In patients without established clinical ASCVD, the percent reduction in LDL-C is the strongest predictor of cardiovascular benefit. In patients with high LDL-C levels, a 50% reduction in LDL-C levels should be targeted.In high-risk patients with established clinical ASCVD, we should target a 50% reduction in LDL-C levels and an LDL-C level less of than <70mg/dL. Lower LDL-C levels are associated with better ASCVD outcomes, and European guidelines recommend targeting an LDL-C level of <55mg/dL.LDL-C lowering starts with promoting a health-lifestyle with emphasis on regular exercise and heart-healthy diet. Randomized trials support the efficacy of the Mediterranean diet in reducing cardiovascular events.
Show notes - Lipid Lowering with Dr. Alison Bailey
1. What are the current guidelines for primary prevention of ASCVD?
The 2019 ACC/AHA Guidelines on the primary prevention of Cardiovascular Disease provides the following guidance for clinicians (applicable to those without established clinical ASCVD):For all patients, a heart-healthy lifestyle focused on diet and exercise is the most important way to prevent atherosclerotic disease.For any patient with an LDL-C ≥ 190 mg/dL, a high intensity statin is recommended.Patients aged 40-75 years old who have diabetes mellitus warrant at least a moderate intensity statin, and may benefit from a high-intensity statin based on additional risk factorsFor patients aged 40-75 years old and with an LDL-C between 70-189 mg/dL without diabetes, the pooled cohort equation can determine 10-year ASCVD risk and guide a patient-centric risk discussion.Percent reduction in LDL-C is the strongest predictor of cardiovascular benefit; a 50% reduction in LDL-C should be targeted for most patients.
2. What evidence exists for specific dietary changes in improving cardiovascular outcomes?
A diet emphasizing intake of vegetables, fruits, legumes, nuts, whole grains, and fish is recommended to decrease ASCVD risk factors. Additionally, minimizing intake of processed meats, refined carbohydrates, and sweetened beverages can reduce ASCVD risk.

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Aug 24, 2021 • 1h 9min
142. HF part 11: The Role of the Clinical Examination in Patients With Heart Failure – with Dr. Mark Drazner
Dr. Mark Drazner discusses the clinical examination in heart failure patients, highlighting non-invasive assessment of hemodynamic status and risk stratification. Topics include evaluating JVP, RA:PCWP ratio, and categorizing patients based on pressures to guide management decisions.

Aug 17, 2021 • 1h
141. Narratives in Cardiology: Empowerment & Growing Together as Women in EP with Dr. Kamala Tamirisa – Texas Chapter
In the PA.ACC – CardioNerds Narratives in Cardiology episode, CardioNerd Amit Goyal joins Dr. Miranda Merrill (FIT, Oregon Health & Science University), Dr. Stephanie Fuentes Rojas (FIT, Houston Methodist Hospital), and Dr. Natasha Cuk (FIT, Cedars-Sinai Medical Center) for a discussion with Dr. Kamala Tamirisa (Clinical Cardiac Electrophysiologist, Texas Cardiac Arrhythmia, National ACC Women in Cardiology Leadership Council Member and Co-Chair for ACC Women in Cardiology Advocacy Work Group, and current co-chair of the Texas Chapter ACC EP section) about gender equity and women in cardiology and electrophysiology. This episode focuses on the experiences of women in cardiology across the spectrum of training, from medical school, fellowship, through the procedural field of electrophysiology, to local and national leadership and beyond. Listen to the episode to learn about the factors which have led to Dr. Tamirisa’s success as a private practice electrophysiologist incorporating leadership roles in medical education and national organizations. Closing remarks by Texas ACC chapter governor, Dr. Kenneth Shaffer. Episode script was developed by Dr. Miranda Merrill and episode notes were developed by Dr. Natasha Cuk.
The PA-ACC & CardioNerds Narratives in Cardiology is a multimedia educational series jointly developed by the Pennsylvania Chapter ACC, the ACC Fellows in Training Section, and the CardioNerds Platform with the goal to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion in cardiology. In this series, we host inspiring faculty and fellows from various ACC chapters to discuss their areas of expertise and their individual narratives. Join us for these captivating conversations as we celebrate our differences and share our joy for practicing cardiovascular medicine. We thank our project mentors Dr. Katie Berlacher and Dr. Nosheen Reza.
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Video version - Women in EP
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Quotables - Women in EP
“The exciting part today is to see three women who are interested in EP… like RBG said, when all EP physicians are women, that’s the day we’re going to celebrate” 07:15
“There's nothing (more) exciting… than EP, just that technology, the marriage between analytical thinking, tactile, touch, with a deductive logic.” 09:18
“Multiple studies have documented sex disparities in cardiovascular care… (Historically) women and minorities did not receive implantable cardioverter defibrillators or even BiV (biventricular) pacers… a potential driver for these disparities in cardiovascular disease is lack of diversity in the workforce. Very simple.” 19:28
“I still want to wear my lipstick. I still want to wear my heels. I want to do my hair. I still want to be a proceduralist and that's okay. Make room.” 28:00
Show notes - Women in EP
While this episode and the following notes are specific to women in electrophysiology, these same basic principles apply to fostering a more inclusive and welcoming environment in other subspecialties for all persons regardless of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, IMG status, and the other factors which make us different from one another and which enrich our workforce.
1. Why choose electrophysiology?
An EP career is unique – it combines the biology, physiology, and procedural skills learned in residency and fellowship training with engineering, mathematic, and imaging principles learned and refined in advanced EP fellowship.1EPs work in a spectrum of settings and with a spectrum of modalities: inpatient, outpatient clinic,