
Fragmented - Android Developer Podcast
The Fragmented Podcast is the leading Android developer podcast started by Kaushik Gopal & Donn Felker. Our goal is to help you become a better Android Developer through conversation & to capture the zeitgeist of Android development. We chat about topics such as Testing, Dependency Injection, Patterns and Practices, useful libraries, and much more. We will also be interviewing some of the top developers out there. Subscribe now and join us on the journey of becoming a better Android Developer.
Latest episodes

Nov 14, 2022 • 40min
237: Compose vs XML - Which one should you learn as an Android Dev?
In this episode, Donn and Kaushik talk about their thoughts on Jetpack Compose and XML for Android layouts and which one you should learn first.As with every conversation in tech ... it depends on what you're trying to do, where you are at in your career, what the company is doing and more. Donn and Kaushik go into both of their thought processes around Compose and XML and when you should learn one or the other, or even both and whether Jetpack is the future ... or is XML here to stay?LinksTutHub.ioCoding in Flow YouTubePhilip Lackner's Compose PlaylistEpisode 231: Learning Jetpack Compose with Vinay GabaEpisode 171: Jetpack Compose with Leland Richardson from GoogleDonn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO. Post your Android Job and get it in front of thousands of Android pros.Are you an Android Dev? Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

Oct 25, 2022 • 38min
236: A Terminal for Android?
In this episode, Donn and Kaushik talk about the thought of having a terminal for Android.Have you ever wished you could whip up a quick script to get the current location of a device, add it to cron and do some automated tasks on your phone? Wouldn't it be nice to have low level access to your system like you do on your desktop?In this episode, Donn and Kaushik dive into the details of what that might look like and why they find it intriguing.Donn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

Sep 21, 2022 • 54min
235: Pair programming with Ben Orenstein & Tuple
In this episode, Kaushik goes solo and interviews Ben Orenstein. Ben is a prolific Ruby developer, an amazing conference speaker, an ardent vim-ster, and now the CEO of Tuple.Kaushik has been a big fan of Ben's work and was super stoked to talk to Ben and pick his brains on a host of topics: starting the company Tuple, pair programming in general, learning different programming languages and technology, giving better conference talks and more!This episode is chock full of wisdom from Ben. Enjoy!LinksPragmatic ProgrammerTweet: Best Android Studio Pair Programming Servicelearntopair.com - Tuple's Pair programming guideSpeaking for HackersTuple App - OSSBen's talks:Refactoring from Good to Great by Ben OrensteinIdea to Validation to Launch - Microconf 2019Write code faster: expert-level vimContactBen is @r00k listen to his podcast - The Art of ProductFollow @fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)kau.sh's blog or @kaushikgopal (on Twitter)

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Aug 8, 2022 • 1h
234: More Product. Less Architecture?
In this episode, Donn and Kaushik talk about how many Android applications seem to suffer from the disease of over-architecture while neglecting the product (UI/UX) itself. They discuss why this is deterimental to the user experience in the Android platform and how they've seen it evolve over the years. They attempt to provide some thoughful ideas on how this can be rectified in the future and more.We're looking for your feedback on this show. What are your favorite product apps that are just a joy to use on Android? Let us know on Twitter at @donnfelker and @kaushikgopal and @fragmentedcastDonn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

Jun 29, 2022 • 49min
233: UI Screenshot Testing with Paparazzi and John Rodriguez
In this episode, Donn and Kaushik talk to John Rodriguez (jrod) about the Paparazzi library which allows you to perform UI screenshot testing on Android without an emulator or physical device.They talk to John about what screenshot testing is, why it's important, advantages and it's disadvantages as well. You'll learn how to use Paparazzi and how it can test various different screen configurations without having to run an emulator. You read that correct ... without an emulator.If you're looking to incorporate screenshot testing into your app, this is the episode for you.LinksPaparazzi Project websiteGitHub RepoJohn's TwitterCashapp GitHubTestParameterInjectorFragmented Episode 52Donn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

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Jun 13, 2022 • 44min
232: Frustration, Flow State and "The Madness"
In this episode Donn and Kaushik talk about frustration, finding "flow state" and how it's known as "the madness" and how to deal with it.We originally were going to talk about an other topic, but during the off air banter Donn brought up how he was frustrated with losing/burning so much time on a task that he had for his side project. He only meant to spend a little bit of time on it and then spent WAY more time than he meant to. He got to the point where he had to stop working on the project, yell at himself for not time boxing it and then he had to refocus. This piqued Kaushik's interest and they decided to hit record to talk about this topic as its something they both deal with and have also hear many other developers deal with too. The "Madness" is when you get consumed by your work and you're so passionate that you lose track of time, eating and more. You've become consumed ... you have "The Madness". This happens to all developers, and Donn and Kaushik talk about how to not let this derail your day when you have other responsibilities as well as life and work. We hope you enjoy today's off the cuff developer discussion.Donn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

Jun 6, 2022 • 50min
231: Learning Jetpack Compose with Vinay Gaba
In this episode, Donn and Kaushik talk to Android GDE Vinay Gaba about learning Jetpack Compose.They talk about how to learn how to use Jetpack Compose by example (and Vinay's excellent talk by the same name). How to use Jetpackcompose.app to help you find the right Jetpack Compose component and how to use ShowKase to organize discover and visualize your Jetpack Compose Elements. We then dive into why someone might want to learn Jetpack Compose and how to start learning it. They touch briefly on the parts of Compose, such as the compiler, runtime, UI, foundation, and more. They wrap up by talking about Unidirectional State flow and by answering the hot question ... "Is Jetpack Compose ready for production?" If you're looking to learn more about Jetpack Compose, this is an episode for you. LinksVinay's TwitterVinays Learning Jetpack Compose by Example VideoJetpackCompose.app (find the Jetpack Compose component you're looking for by typing in the XML equivalent)ShowKase - A library to organize, discover and visualize your Jetpack Compose ElementsJetpack Compose Official DocsCompose RuntimeInside Jetpack Compose DiagramOther Jetpack Compose EpisodesEP 172EP 196Donn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

May 30, 2022 • 19min
230: Feeling Like an Idiot
In this episode Donn talks about that pit of the stomach feeling we all get when we feel like we should know something but we don't. It's that voice in our head as developers that makes you feel like an idiot even when you're not.Donn gives examples of how even senior engineers are subject to this feeling and how they are often the ones to not speak up about it simply because of their experience level and seniority. This episode talks about why we get this feeling and how to combat it going forward. Donn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

May 23, 2022 • 1h 3min
229: Native Where You Need It with Turbo (Launch Your Side Projects Faster)
In this episode, Kaushik peppers Donn with questions about his foray into Android Turbo, Hotwire, and the concept of "Native Where You Need It".Donn recently launched Android Jumpstart, the Android client for the Jumpstart Rails trifecta. Jumpstart Rails allow you to launch your SaaS business much faster than if you were to do it from the ground up.The Android client for Jumpstart Rails builds on top of Turbo and Hotwire, two technologies that help power the Hey email client and Basecamp (the project management app). By using Turbo and Hotwire you're able to get very fast response times and speed with "HTML Over the Wire" (aka Hotwire) with Websockets and much more. This allows your web app to be super fast and when packaged with Android Turbo, allows your web app to live within a native shell. HOWEVER, this doesn't mean its simply a web wrapper. With Android Turbo you can specify which URL routes you'd like to be as native and which ones you'd like to remain web-based. This means you can choose to use Native when you need it, and delegate back to the web for everything else.This is the solo founder, indie-hacker, and startup SaaS dream come true. You can come to market faster, iterate with a smaller team and get native benefits when and where you need it, all while also allowing your application to be flexible in a web manner.If you're thinking about building a SaaS app that needs a web presence, Android and iOS presence but want fully native experiences in certain areas then this will be the episode for you.LinksHotwired.devStimulus JSJumpstart AndroidJumpstart RailsJumpstart iOSEpisode 220 with Jay Ohms - Turbo Native for AndroidGo Rails TutorialsDonn's Git CourseNeed to learn Git? Donn has the course for you. In this FREE course you'll learn everything you need to know in order to start working with Git everyday. Watch it here.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.

Apr 18, 2022 • 57min
228: Expo Development with Konstantin Liakhovskii
In this episode Donn and Kaushik talk to Konstantin Liakhovskii about Expo development and how it takes cross platform development and its productivity to the next level. Konstantin dives deep into the usages and reasons why Expo (and React Native) are still very good options for companies that are looking to adopt a cross-platform application. Links from the showExpo.devKonstantin's TwitterReactive Native Episode with Gabriel Peal #129Reactive Native Episode with Gabriel Peal #130 (Part 2)StoaStoa is a community platform for creators and anyone who wants to monetize their community. Sign up at getstoa.com and get 3 months free when we launch. Early access coming soon.AndroidJobs.IOJob postings are FREE on AndroidJobs.IO during the early release phase (at the time of this recording).Sign up to get notified of new jobs on a weekly basis as well.AndroidJobs.IOSoftware FreelancingDonn's Freelance Faction CommunityFreelance Tactics BookDonn's Freelancing Content on YouTubeContact@fragmentedcast or our Youtube channel@donnfelker and donnfelker (on Instagram)Freelancing for Mobile Developers (Donn's YouTube)kaushikgopal (on YouTube) or jkl.gg/b or @kaushikgopalDisclaimer: Many of the links we share to products are affiliate links. They help support the production of Fragmented. Thank you for your support.