
Otherppl with Brad Listi
Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly literary podcast featuring in-depth conversations with today's leading authors. Books, writing, literature, screenwriting, the creative process, and more. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Watch it on the Otherppl YouTube channel. Follow the show on Twitter and Instagram.
Latest episodes

Jun 29, 2025 • 1h 17min
Kirsten, 40, Pen and Ink Artist
Character Study, Vol. 16. 'Character Studies' is a new series on the podcast featuring interviews with 'civilians'—ordinary adult humans of all ages and backgrounds, talking with Brad about their lives, anonymously.
In Vol. 16, a conversation with Kirsten, 40, a pen and ink artist from Pittsburgh, PA.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
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Jun 26, 2025 • 1h 32min
Foam Party with My New Stepdad
Volume 48 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...fast zombies with erect penises...Jeff and Lauren take Venice...foam parties, Gatsby parties, the ritual humiliation of elites...Emma Thompson's prostate crusade...Scarlet Johansson can't stop mouth-kissing her gay co-star...and more...
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
Merch
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Bluesky
Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 19min
973. Jess Walter
Jess Walter is the author of the novel So Far Gone, available from Harper Books. It is the official June pick of the Otherppl Book Club.
Walter is the author of seven previous novels, including the bestsellers The Cold Millions and Beautiful Ruins, the National Book Award Finalist The Zero, and Citizen Vince,winner of the Edgar Award for best novel. His short fiction, collected in The Angel of Romeand We Live in Water, has won the O. Henry Prize, the Pushcart Prize and appeared three times in Best American Short Stories. He lives in his hometown of Spokane, Washington.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
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Bluesky
Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is an affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 22, 2025 • 1h 39min
Rebecca, 35, Human Being
Character Study, Vol. 15. 'Character Studies' is a new series on the podcast featuring interviews with 'civilians'—ordinary adult humans of all ages and backgrounds, talking with Brad about their lives, anonymously.
In Vol. 15, a conversation with Rebecca, 35, a human being from Richmond, Virginia.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
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Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 29min
The Little Horny Pop Star Who Could
Volume 47 of Brad & Mira For the Culture.
In this sleep-deprived yet fully charged episode, Brad and Mira dive into a chaotic mix of meditation-induced existential crises, protest politics, the cultural significance of Sabrina Carpenter’s new album art, and the strange allure of Scrotox. They discuss the absurdity of performative wokeness, the hypocrisies of pop culture outrage, and why no one actually cares about what scrotums look like. Along the way, they cover:
The perils of insomnia and overmeditating
LA protest sign culture and property damage politics
Angry Adam's transformation into Anguished Adam
Jack Black at a protest—and the ethics of celebrity selfie requests
IKEA cosplay and River’s obsession with big-box stores
Sabrina Carpenter's new record (Man’s Best Friend), her controversial album art, and what it really says about sexuality and pop culture
Feminism, purity politics, and whether women need to tailor their art for dumb men
The supply-and-demand logic of porn and whether Gen Z is too scandalized by sex
The Bravo show The Valley, Zach Wickham’s scrotox procedure, and the aesthetics of Botoxed balls
The ethics of kink in pop culture and why Mira thinks a Bugs Bunny in drag is more sexually provocative than Sabrina Carpenter
Kanye West's recent stint in rehab and cryptic tweets about no longer being a Nazi
It’s raw, unruly, and refreshingly unfiltered—exactly what you’ve come to expect from Brad & Mira.
Sabrina Carpenter – singer, subject of album controversy
Taylor Swift
Jennifer Lopez
Britney Spears
Madonna
Jack Black
Paul Newman
RFK Jr.
Pete Doherty
Phil Donahue
The Meat Puppets
The Minutemen
Gigi Allen
Kanye West
Bianca Censori – Kanye’s wife
The Balance Clinic – rehab facility in Spain
The Valley – Bravo reality show
Zach Wickham – reality star, known for his hairline and scrotox
Jax Taylor, Kristen Doute – Vanderpump Rules alumni
Seal – singer of Kiss from a Rose
Minecraft: The Movie
Otherppl podcast
Newman's Own
The Painted Turtle Camp, Hole in the Wall Gang Camp
Reconsider your opinion on Sabrina Carpenter. Is she offensive—or just doing clever branding?
Think about your relationship with porn. Does it affect how you interpret art or interact sexually?
Google Zack Wickham’s hairline. You will not be disappointed.
Watch The Valley if you dare.
Make a protest sign that says “Scrotox for All.” Then burn it.
“Jesus Christ liked to have his hair pulled by Mary Magdalene, I believe.” – Brad
“It’s like when Bugs Bunny is in drag.” – Mira
“He kind of looks like a scrotum with Botox in it.” – Mira, about RFK Jr.
“If you really want to provoke people, you should be pissing on the album cover.” – Brad
“Porn didn’t invent choking. People wanted it, so porn delivered.” —Mira
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
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Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 20min
972. S. A. Cosby
S. A. Cosby is the author of the novel King of Ashes, available from Flatiron Books.
Cosby is a New York Times bestselling writer from southeastern Virginia. He is the author of All the Sinners Bleed, which was on more than forty Best of the Year lists, including Barack Obama’s, as well as Edgar Award finalist Razorblade Tears and Los Angeles Times Book Prize winner Blacktop Wasteland. He has also won the Anthony Award, ITW Thriller Award, Barry Award, Macavity Award, BCALA Award, and Audie Award and has been longlisted for the ALA Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
Merch
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Bluesky
Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is an affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 15, 2025 • 1h 31min
David, 44, Painter
Character Study, Vol. 14. 'Character Studies' is a new series on the podcast featuring interviews with 'civilians'—ordinary adult humans of all ages and backgrounds, talking with Brad about their lives, anonymously.
In Vol. 14, a conversation with David, 44, a graduate student from London.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
Merch
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Bluesky
Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 12, 2025 • 1h 32min
Cazando Esteban
Volume 46 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...the Gestapo police state insanity in LA...hunting a nude and terrified Stephen...Katie Perry's album fail is causing "tension"....the perils of the "Hollywood fake passionate love affair marketing scheme"...Tom Cruise at 100...Harrison Ford's ageless libido...and more...
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
Merch
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Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 31min
971. Claire Hoffman
Claire Hoffman is the author of Sister, Sinner: The Miraculous Life and Mysterious Disappearance of Aimee Semple McPherson, available from Farrar, Straus, & Giroux.
Hoffman is also the author of the memoir Greetings from Utopia Park and is a journalist reporting for national magazines on culture, religion, celebrity, business, and more. She was formerly a staff reporter for the Los Angeles Times and Rolling Stone. She is a graduate of UC Santa Cruz, and has an MA in religion from the University of Chicago and an MA in journalism from Columbia University. She serves on the boards of the Columbia School of Journalism, ProPublica, and the Brooklyn Public Library.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
Merch
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Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is an affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 8, 2025 • 1h 25min
John, 36, Graduate Student
Character Study, Vol. 13. 'Character Studies' is a new series on the podcast featuring interviews with 'civilians'—ordinary adult humans of all ages and backgrounds, talking with Brad about their lives, anonymously.
In Vol. 13, a conversation with John, 36, a graduate student from Central New Jersey.
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Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers.
Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter.
Support the show on Patreon
Merch
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Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices