
The Leadership Exchange
This is The Leadership Exchange, where we sit down with accomplished leaders and uncover the secrets of their success. Join us as we delve into their career journeys, discuss the challenges they faced, and explore the solutions they discovered along the way.
Whether you're an aspiring leader or looking to enhance your leadership skills, this podcast offers valuable insights and inspiration from those who have navigated the path to success.
Latest episodes

Nov 14, 2023 • 26min
How to Cultivate a Culture of Innovation, Intent, and Mission-Focus with Shanthala Rao, Chief Digital Development Officer at Primerica
In this podcast, Rob Ocel interviews Shanthala Rao, Chief Digital Development Officer at Primerica. They discuss her 20+ year career, Primerica's innovative culture, and how technology is used to enhance human connections, particularly between representatives and clients.
Sponsored by This Dot Labs.

Nov 7, 2023 • 19min
Agile vs. Waterfall: Finding the Right Mix in Software Engineering with Dustin Goodman, Engineering Manager at This Dot Labs
In this episode, Tracy Lee and Dustin Goodman discuss blending project management processes for a more efficient workflow. Dustin's project example underscores understanding the highest value proposition aligned with the organization's KPIs or OKRs. Finally, they stress the balance between strategic planning and adaptability.
Sponsored by This Dot Labs.

Oct 31, 2023 • 27min
Navigating Engineering Challenges in the Embedded Space: Insights from Heather Giovanni
On this episode, Rob Ocel interviews Heather Giovanni, the VP of Engineering of Data Infrastructure at Hewlett Packard Enterprise. They discuss the importance of striking a balance between optimization and customer expectations, and how the customer's familiarity with the product can affect the level of complexity.

Oct 24, 2023 • 33min
How to Interpret Software Developer Performance Metrics with Jimmy Jacobson, CTO of Codingscape
Jimmy Jacobson, CTO of Codingscape, discusses developer performance. He highlights challenges in the job market, and explore key productivity metrics and frameworks like DORA & McKinsey's report. They also touch on balancing process improvement with tech investments, emphasizing efficient communication for engineering teams.
Sponsor: This Dot Labs