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Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 10min
Trump’s Megabill Comes for the Clean Energy Transition
Three years ago, Congress passed President Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in climate action in U.S. history. The IRA set in motion a sweeping set of investments in nearly every aspect of energy and climate, mostly in the form of subsidies and tax credits, to boost domestic production of electric vehicles, batteries and carbon-free energy. Those investments have flowed to every state, but the majority have landed in Republican-held districts.
In spite of that, Congressional Republicans nearly unanimously passed President Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” which the president signed on July 4. The megabill guts nearly all the program funds allocated under the IRA and slashes incentives and credits for solar, wind, energy efficiency and electric vehicles — precisely at a time when we need to dramatically scale up those sectors to address climate change. Why did Republicans let this bill move ahead? And how much will it exacerbate the climate crisis in the coming decades?
Guests:
Katherine Hamilton, Chair, 38 North Solutions
Clayton Aldern, Senior Data Reporter, Grist
Lisa Jacobson, President, Business Council for Sustainable Energy
John Szoka, CEO, Conservative Energy Network
On July 31, Climate One is hosting Premal Shah and Kinari Webb for a live episode recording! With years of experience navigating the global climate movement, the two are sure to offer unparalleled insights during their conversation with Co-Host Greg Dalton. Tickets for the show, which will be held at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, are available now through our website.
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Jul 11, 2025 • 57min
Biomimicry & Green Burial: Living and Dying with Nature in Mind
Nature can feel distant from our everyday lives. Maybe it’s a place we visit on the weekends, a getaway from the hustle and bustle, something “out there,” just beyond the edges of our neighborhoods. But we are part of it, and as more and more people consider their impact on the Earth, sustainable practices are extending even to death, where green and natural burials are gaining popularity.
Within the field of biomimicry, a design practice informed by what already exists in nature, innovators are exploring ways to sustain the ecosystems we’re surrounded by, rather than depleting them. Scientists have looked to butterfly wings to improve the efficiency of solar panels, and wetland plants to purify water in buildings.
How can we build in a way that addresses climate concerns and has a softer impact on the environment in which it exists?
Guests:
Janine Benyus, Co-Founder, Biomimicry Institute
Emily Miller, Licensed Funeral Director and Embalmer; Founder, Colorado Burial Preserve
This episode also features field reporting from Producer Megan Biscieglia at Fernwood Cemetery and Funeral Home.
On July 31, Climate One is hosting Premal Shah and Kinari Webb for a live episode recording! With years of experience navigating the global climate movement, the two are sure to offer unparalleled insights during their conversation with Co-Host Greg Dalton. Tickets for the show, which will be held at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, are available now through our website.
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Jul 4, 2025 • 58min
ENCORE: Drag Queen Pattie Gonia on Bringing Joy to Climate Action
When individuals want to take action on climate, it’s often in the form of electrifying a home, voting, or maybe even traditional activism. Those are very important, but we often overlook how individual skills and talents can also make a difference.
This week we’re highlighting creative forms of climate action. Pattie Gonia is a drag queen, environmentalist and advocate for inclusivity and diversity in the outdoors who struts their message through national parks, in Pride events, and through the halls of Congress. Mike Roberts and Will Hammond Jr. wrote a sultry R&B song that will change the way you think about heat pumps… and an equally stimulating song about the power of geothermal energy. Together, they remind us that we don’t always have to take ourselves too seriously in order for our work to be meaningful and have impact.
This episode originally aired on February 7, 2025.
Guests:
Pattie Gonia, Drag queen; Environmentalist
Mike Roberts, Musician; Climate advocate
Will Hammond Jr., Educator; Musician
Pattie Gonia image credits Mitchell Overton and Maxwell Poth.
On July 31, Climate One is hosting Premal Shah and Kinari Webb for a live episode recording! With years of experience navigating the global climate movement, the two are sure to offer unparalleled insights during their conversation with Co-Host Greg Dalton. Tickets for the show, which will be held at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, are available now through our website.
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Jul 1, 2025 • 21min
BONUS: He Started Tesla Employees Against Elon. Then Got Fired.
Matt LaBrot was the Tesla sales manager who got so fed up with how Elon Musk’s public persona affected the brand that he published a website called “Tesla Employees Against Elon.” He was subsequently fired, allegedly for "using company resources to build a website that did not align with the company’s perspective."
For our pod audience, we’re dropping this extended version of Greg Dalton’s conversation with Matt LaBrot. A portion of this interview aired in our episode “Is The EV Transition Stuck in Neutral?” on June 27th.
Guest:
Matthew LaBrot, Former Tesla sales employee
On July 31, Climate One is hosting Premal Shah and Kinari Webb for a live episode recording! With years of experience navigating the global climate movement, the two are sure to offer unparalleled insights during their conversation with Co-Host Greg Dalton. Tickets for the show, which will be held at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, are available now through our website.
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Jun 27, 2025 • 1h 3min
Is the EV Transition Stuck in Neutral?
In 2024, BloombergNEF predicted electric vehicles would make up nearly half of U.S. new car sales by 2030. Now, they’ve revised their projection down to less than 30%, just one year later.
In a time when we need to be speeding up the energy transition, EV sales in the U.S. are stagnating. Sales of Teslas, once the king of electric vehicles, are collapsing. What’s behind the slowing demand? And with China’s growing electric car industry growing, how much should we worry?
Guests:
Camila Domonoske, Correspondent, NPR Business Desk
Dan Bowerson, Vice President, Energy and Environment Policy, Alliance for Automotive Innovation
Matthew LaBrot, Former Tesla sales employee
Mike Murphy, CEO, EV Politics Project
For transcripts, related links, and more information about this episode visit our website.
On July 31, Climate One is hosting Premal Shah and Kinari Webb for a live episode recording! With years of experience navigating the global climate movement, the two are sure to offer unparalleled insights during their conversation with Co-Host Greg Dalton. Tickets for the show, which will be held at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, are available now through our website.
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Jun 20, 2025 • 1h 5min
Dead Heat: The Danger Of Home Power Shutoffs
Summer is here, temperatures are rising — and so are electric bills. That also means many people are facing a severely overlooked issue: power shutoffs. In 2024, over 600,000 households in the United States had their power shut off due to an inability to pay. When that happens, people cannot turn on their lights, keep food refrigerated, or cool down the home. And regulations preventing shutoffs during extreme heat events are woefully inadequate.
But when utilities help pay the upfront costs of efficiency upgrades, the customers and utilities can both save energy — and money. How do we protect the most vulnerable populations from the dangers of home power shutoffs?
Guests:
Jean Su, Energy Justice Director, Center for Biological Diversity
Sanya Carley, Co-Director, Energy Justice Lab, University of Pennsylvania
Tamara Jones, Co-Executive Director, Clean Energy Works
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Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 9min
Super Pollutants: The Hidden Half of Global Warming
Carbon dioxide is a big deal. It’s responsible for about half of global heating. But what about the other half? There’s actually good news here: Nearly half of the temperature increases driving climate disasters come from super pollutants, most of which don’t stay in the atmosphere for nearly as long as carbon dioxide — which can last for centuries. Methane, for example, is about 80 times more potent at warming the climate than carbon dioxide over 20 years. But it only stays in the atmosphere for a fraction of the time. So if we can put the brakes on methane and other super pollutants, we can put the brakes on warming.
Guests:
Ilissa Ocko, Senior Climate Scientist, Spark Climate Solutions
David Kanter, Associate Professor of Environmental Studies, New York University
Millie Chu Baird, Vice President, Office of the Chief Scientist, Environmental Defense Fund
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Jun 6, 2025 • 1h 2min
Three Big Thinkers With No Room for Doom
In this engaging discussion, environmental journalist Alan Weisman explores solutions to the climate crisis, emphasizing hope as an active choice. Climate activist Bill McKibben champions the power of the aging population, arguing their influence in climate advocacy is vital. They delve into innovative strategies, from advanced flood management to sustainable agricultural practices, showcasing a wealth of potential solutions. Ultimately, the conversation inspires listeners to take action, focusing on community involvement and uplifting narratives in the face of climate challenges.

May 30, 2025 • 1h 5min
I’m Walkin’ Here! A Report Card on Congestion Pricing
In January, congestion pricing went into effect in New York City. The policy’s implementation took decades; along the way, multiple moments suggested that it wouldn’t happen at all. Now, drivers entering Manhattan south of 60th Street during peak hours are required to pay a toll. Meanwhile, other cities like San Francisco are considering a similar initiative. But Trump opposes New York’s plan. Governor Hochul and state policy leaders encountered a political quagmire pushing the plan through. And its future is only certain up until around next fall, when legal proceedings are expected to come to a resolution.
So, is congestion pricing making a worthwhile difference? How do New Yorkers — and those traveling into Manhattan — feel about it?
Guests:
Eric A. Goldstein, Senior Attorney, Natural Resources Defense Council
Sarah M. Kaufman, Director of NYU’s Rudin Center for Transportation Policy and Management
Ryan Johnson, Co-Founder and CEO, Culdesac
On June 4, Climate One is hosting a special screening of the documentary “Good Grief: The 10 Steps” followed by a climate anxiety workshop. Join us for this intimate conversation about the importance of mental health live at The Commonwealth Club. Tickets are available through our website.
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May 23, 2025 • 1h 1min
Murder, Pollution as Policy, and Two Women Who Won’t Give Up
In this insightful conversation, Alexis Madrigal, Co-Host of KQED’s Forum and author, delves into the impact of global trade on pollution in West Oakland. He reveals how urban planning choices since the 1930s have oppressed marginalized communities. Margaret Gordon emphasizes grassroots activism against fossil fuel pollution, showcasing community resilience. Abby Reyes shares heart-wrenching stories from environmental defenders and their struggles with loss, blending themes of grief and joy. Together, they highlight the fight for environmental justice and collective action.