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Feb 22, 2022 • 21min
4 Funding Models for Church Planters
Episode 643: Ed Stetzer, Tiffany Smith and Clint Clifton discuss the advantages and disadvantages of four different approaches to funding a church plant.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
Some of the advantages and disadvantages of four possible approaches to fund church planting:
The “Shark Tank” approach
The “School Fundraiser” approach
The “Get a Job” approach
The “Campus Crusade” approach
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Some assume that planting is like a business: You get a business loan and get started. But that’s not really the way it works. @clintjclifton
The “Shark Tank” approach depends really heavily on the quality of the church planter’s pitch. @clintjclifton
The missiological effect of that paradigm is that it cultivates top-down leadership. You automatically are going to be fighting that paradigm and have to be very intentional about unleashing the whole church. @tiffanydsmith
The least common approach is what I call the “School Fundraiser” approach. The church plant tries to raise money by selling things in order to fund the mission. @clintjclifton
One church we planted had a “baby shower” for our new church. You can buy our nursery equipment or our sound equipment. @edstetzer
I’m of the view that you develop the resources anywhere, in any way you can ethically and appropriately. @edstetzer
The posture of the individual is important. If the community feels like it’s a pushy car salesman kind of thing, then it’s going to be negative for the the missional movement. But if it’s a blessing to the community, then I think it would be super helpful. @tiffanydsmith
The church I’m involved in went into partnership with a developer and we’re building an apartment complex. Some of the revenue off the apartment complex will will fund our ministry and mission. @clintjclifton
The next one is the “Get a Job” approach and this is bivocational church planting. No fundraising needed. The planter works really hard until the church is able to offer enough support for the planter to become a staff member. @clintjclifton
One of the coolest aspects of this approach is that a lay leader or a member in the church is seeing before them a life lived out in the marketplace and that it’s a normal practice. @tiffanydsmith
I’ve seen people who are so intertwined in the community that their work gives them insight into the needs and the pulse of the community. They’re also building up relational equity. @tiffanydsmith
The next one I call the “Campus Crusade” approach, which seeks commitments from individuals to give regularly monthly amounts to support an individual missionary. @clintjclifton
This is a wonderful opportunity for people to be blessed by God to participate in the mission. @edstetzer
I love the idea of “We’re a family and so we’re supporting one another.” If you are recruiting 50 to 100 individuals to support the mission, they are a part of that mission too. It is highly relational. @tiffanydsmith
Helpful Resources:
Clint Clifton’s article – Demystifying Church Planter Funding
Bill Dillon’s book – People Raising: A Practical Guide to Raising Support
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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Feb 17, 2022 • 22min
Church Planter Friendly Jobs
Episode 642: Next-generation missionaries and church planters are leveraging their careers for mission. Host Ed Stetzer talks with NAMB’s Tiffany Smith and Clint Clifton about vocational options that work well for bivo/covo church planters.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
Considerations you must keep in mind as you think about planting a church while having another job
Whether the bivo/covo trend actually is increasing
What vocations are really good fits for bivo/covo work
How well entrepreneurial work fits with bivo/covo planting
A New Testament perspective on bivo/covo work
Opportunities for next-generation missionaries and church planters to leverage their careers for mission
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
People who are bivocational or covocational are just amazing heroes. And bivocational pastors are much more common than most think. In some denominations, half the pastors are bivocational. @edstetzer
There seems in many many cases to be an assumption that the best church planting is fully funded. That’s not necessarily something statistical. @edstetzer
It is very very common to think of covocational or bivocational as Plan B. But it would be amazing to see a shift, because I think we’ll see more momentum into places the church normally isn’t present. @tiffanydsmith
It has been a talking point for years for bivocational pastors to be the heroes, but now we’re actually seeing stories of bivocational or covocational pastors deeply entrenched in their careers who also are fruitful pastors and church planters. @clintjclifton
Jobs that have start and end times and allow you to bring your best in planting seem to make the bigger difference. @edstetzer
Bivocational ministry was so normal in the early church that the believers were encouraged to give an extra blessing to those who were pulling double duty. @tiffanydsmith
Perhaps the most significant benefit of planting as a bivo/covo leader is that it gives the planter greater opportunities to connect relationally with people in the community. @edstetzer
The planter sees a genuine and real need in the community and then moves into that segment to meet the need naturally and connects to the community. @tiffanydsmith
Some planters are getting into a business connecting to people that the church would not typically have access to. @tiffanydsmith
Certain entrepreneurial ventures are really given to being great missiologically. There are missiological advantages to certain careers. @clintjclifton
A social entrepreneur explores business opportunities that have a positive impact on their community, in society or the world. @edstetzer
You end up not as two closed hands, but as two hands actually working together. @edstetzer
You have to be careful because you want to be a person of integrity and not planting a church using social entrepreneurship as a tool. @edstetzer
Right now, in our culture there’s a vacuum in relational connections. Whatever creative way we end up connecting in the community, we should give the highest relational salt and light and fruit of the Spirit we can. @tiffanydsmith
More often, it’s helpful for a church planter to be solving local problems in a local place and find a way to rally the community around that problem and place. Interacting with the same group of people provides new missional opportunities. @clintjclifton
Invite the Holy Spirit. Say, “Hey, show me a creative way to step into my vocation, step into my passion and maximize the gospel and the kingdom movement.” @tiffanydsmith
I would love to see the church unleashed. If we make the shift where everybody sees themselves on mission, sent and released into the world to be salt and light, then we’re going to see more movement and discipleship at a deeper, richer level than we’ve seen before. @tiffanydsmith
Helpful Resources:
Free article: Brad Brisco: 3 Benefits of Bivocational Church Planting
Free ebook: Brad Brisco: Covocational Church Planting
Steve Sjogren: Community of Kindness
Ed Stetzer: Planting Missional Churches
Daniel Im: You Are What You Do: And Six Other Lies about Work, Life, and Love
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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Feb 8, 2022 • 25min
The Power of Moments
Episode 639: When people experience powerful moments at church, they leave remembering having encountered the Lord and feeling changed. Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins discuss the challenge of “setting the table” for those moments without crossing the line into manipulation.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
The four different types of moments a church planter wants to create for his congregation
Why it’s important to set the table but remember it’s the Holy Spirit who moves in powerful moments
Why events like “Pack a Pew Sunday” and elements like altar calls and membership were important in creating powerful moments
The challenge of remembering that people, not the program, are pre-eminent
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Not that you want to manufacture a moment but there are things that we can do that will make the environment most conducive to that. The Holy Spirit is the person that is going to be moving them, but you need to do everything in your power kind of to make that moment “happen.” @ToddAdkins
It’s important for us to have moments and mile markers in our walk with Christ. It’s also important to have moments and mile markers in the life of our church early on. @ToddAdkins
There was a sort of Charles Finney revivalism that crossed the line into what most church-planting pastors would consider manipulation. We’ve overcorrected and said, “We want everything to be organic.” And we’ve lost some of those critical opportunities in our local ministries. @ClintJClifton
I want to set the table. I want to light the candles but I want to recognize on my part that the real magical thing that’s going to happen in ministry is the work of the Spirit. It’s the work the Word does in somebody’s life. @ClintJClifton
I want to create an environment where people will come to the table so they might experience the Lord in a really special way. We want people to leave remembering having encountered the Lord and feeling changed. @ClintJClifton
Instead of doing the hard creative work of how we can create an environment or an experience where people are likely to grow, we’re just simply running the play we’ve seen happen so many times before. @ClintJClifton
Apathy lulls us into to not having those moments. We need to stop and take a fresh look at what we’re doing. @ClintJClifton
Part of what it is, is the inertia of your own success. And sometimes that success is just staying open. Sometimes it’s growth. @ToddAdkins
You’re not going to have margin to think about setting the table and lighting the candles. You’re just going to continue delivering meals to the table. And the next thing you’re throwing TV dinners there and you didn’t even know it. @ToddAdkins
The 90 days before the launch of the church are hard, just a grind. And then the next 90 days you have to build on that inertia of success. So even though you want to go home and slump in the chair and rest, you better have something planned to take advantage of that moment. @ToddAdkins
When I can plan what I’m going to do that first 90 days after a launch when we’re all kind of dragging, that’s going to rejuvenate your volunteers and you as well. @ToddAdkins
One of the biggest mistakes I see church planners making is thinking completely about the beginning of their church services, their launch day and thinking little or nothing about the life of their church in the systems and rhythms of their church after that first day. @ClintJClifton
It’s like thinking about the wedding a lot, but not about the marriage at all. @ClintJClifton
It’s fallen out of vogue to have big days – pack a pew Sunday, friend day – and it is a little corny, but in throwing that whole lot out, we have really lost something. @ClintJClifton
We need to take full of advantage of that moment that we have. And then look forward down the line to say, “Okay, and this is where we’re going.” @ToddAdkins
Two things today that we kind of push off, and that is the altar call and membership. Both of those got hijacked 40 years ago. Don’t throw those things out. Don’t treat them like they’re a tool, but do think of them as a moment. @ToddAdkins
Baptism is a very, very, very powerful moment in the life of that person that we should steward well. @ToddAdkins
The problem is when the program becomes pre-eminent. You have to remember the program is for the people, the people are not for your program. @ToddAdkins
Programs come and go but the real question is, how are we making sure that we are being absolutely wonderful stewards of the time that people are giving us and the experience that they’re given? @ToddAdkins
Helpful Resources:
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
Maximizing the Big Day bundle at EdStetzer.com
Books by Chip and Dan Heath
Power of Moments
Made to Stick
Decisive
Switch
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Feb 3, 2022 • 22min
Systems for Multiplication
Episode 638: Systems for multiplying church leaders must have a healthy balance of the organic and pragmatic. Host Clint Clifton discusses how to create an effective system of leadership development with Todd Adkins, director of LifeWay Leadership.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
Three reasons leaders must be learners in front of those they lead
Components of the multiplication system at Clint’s Pillar Church
Why Todd’s program at McLean Bible Church focused on both core competency and role competency
Why Todd evaluates a residency program on inputs, throughputs and outputs
How Mark Dever, pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church, compares church planter residencies to medical residencies
The four phases Todd sees in leadership multiplication
The MAWL model of leadership development
Why Todd thinks you can’t tell in advance who’s going to be “successful” and who isn’t
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Your church would like to plant other new churches, but there are some day-to-day activities that are going to prohibit that, if you don’t have some systems set up for them. @ClintJClifton
‘Systems’ is not a dirty word. Sometimes, when we hear it, we think that’s a business-type thing. But God created the solar system and the circulatory system. @ToddAdkins
The pendulum between the organic and the pragmatic seems to go back and forth a lot. You have to understand from a biblical perspective a healthy balance of both things – putting on both your shepherd hat and your stewardship hat. @ToddAdkins
Leaders learn in front of people. If you are a leader these days and you are not a learner, then you have a really, really short shelf life. @ToddAdkins
It’s really important for us to not just be dispensers of grace, but receivers of grace, so we can be conduits all the time. @ClintJClifton
The gold standard for us is to have a member of our church go through that process, not somebody from the outside. But if we can’t find members to do it, that’s not going to stop us from planting a church next year. @ClintJClifton
When you have three elements together – knowledge, experience and coaching – that’s when transformation happens. @ToddAdkins
When I look at a residency program, I look at inputs, throughputs and outputs. @ToddAdkins
I want to be more hands-on with the people we’re developing. I want to do ministry alongside them. I want them to see me doing ministry and learn from the ways I do it bad and the ways I do it good. @ClintJClifton
I’m starting high directive and very little supportive. But that flips over time from directive to supportive. There’s very little directive at the end. @ToddAdkins
If you’re always focused more on what you do, rather than who you develop, you’re not going to be a “successful pastor,” in my opinion. @ToddAdkins
I started a church 17 years ago that’s multiplied 20 plus times. And now my greatest joy in life is watching the gospel go forth from those men in their ministries. @ClintJClifton
The greatest impact in my ministry will not be anything I do, but those I invest in and what they do for the glory of God. That’s where you find the deepest satisfaction in ministry. @ClintJClifton
Leadership is understanding that your fruit grows on somebody else’s trees. @ToddAdkins
Helpful Resources:
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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Feb 1, 2022 • 24min
Discovering Pastoral Potential
Episode 637: One of the biggest problems a pastor faces is developing leadership. Host Clint Clifton talks with Noah Oldham, pastor of August Gate Church in St. Louis, about how you can find the future leaders for your church planting work right in your own congregation.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
Noah Oldham’s “cheat” for approaching people in whom he sees pastoral potential
How our free Church Planting Primer can help you get everyday Christians involved in starting new churches
Why August Gate Church practices foot washing as they bring in new members
How Clint’s church uses a preaching lab to surface planter candidates
How prospecting for planter candidates is like “shooting hoops”
What Noah Oldham means by “four H leaders”
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Very few churches who have cracked the nut of how to make members into missionaries. I want our churches, to be known for cultivating pastoral leaders from inside of our work. @ClintJClifton
One of the things I look for is people who care about the whole church flourishing. @NoahOldham
If you took all the fruitful church planters I’ve worked with, you couldn’t find a common denominator. It’s not as easy as noticing a quality or a characteristic, one quality or characteristic. @ClintJClifton
We have to decide as a church at August Gate, what kind of church do we want to plant? But also, what kind of church do we want to be? @NoahOldham
It all comes down to ecclesiology. We have to think about our ecclesiology and if we don’t have that settled, we’re never going to do this very well. @NoahOldham
When you look at the lists in 1 Timothy and Titus, you see these lists for older men and older women and younger women. It’s like, “Where’s the list for the younger men? What’s the list of eldership?” @NoahOldham
Every young man should aspire to be an elder. If we do that, we’ll never have a hard time finding pastors. @NoahOldham
The only difference in an elder and a regular Christian is that they’re actually doing the things we’ve all been commanded to do. @ClintJClifton
It’s like shooting basketball hoops. I’m going to take a lot of shots and probably not make all that many, but the more I shoot, the more I make. @ClintJClifton
I’ve found a lot of guys who live out the rich young ruler. They ask what they have to do to be a leader and walk away sad because they realize, “Ah, it’s just going to require more than I’m willing to give.” @NoahOldham
When I was planting, I felt like I was making all these huge sacrifices, but the truth is, God gave me a very dear family. Those who step away from planting because they think they’re going to miss out on something are forsaking the opportunity at something much, much greater. @ClintJClifton
You have to be wildly optimistic about pastoral potential in others, take people when they’re not ready and imagine what God could do with them the same way He did with you. @ClintJClifton
Helpful Resources:
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
Alexander Strauch’s book Biblical Eldership
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Jan 27, 2022 • 28min
Q and A: Church Planter Residencies
Episode 636: Residencies are crucial to multiplication in church planting, but how do you start and organize them? Host Clint Clifton discusses the practical components of residency with Noah Oldham, pastor of August Gate Church in St. Louis.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
How Noah Oldham designed the August Gate church plant in St. Louis to be a multiplying church
How the August Gate residency is designed
The importance of pursuing people when you see they have potential to plant churches
Day-to-day practical components of a residency
Why residency requires a deep sense of humility
Why churches should maintain warm relationships with planters they send out
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Part of our vision is to be a church that plants more churches until the St. Louis Metro region is saturated with gospel. @NoahOldham
I don’t think there’s anything that’s contributed to the fruitfulness in multiplication in church planting, like having the residency. @ClintJClifton
We just talk about church planting all the time. Because of that, there’s always energy around it. @NoahOldham
Residency’s like a junk drawer category; it’s never clean and buttoned up. And it just means getting people ready for ministry. @ClintJClifton
A big part of our residency is giving somebody the opportunity to do things planters do, on top of what pastors do. @NoahOldham
We use the imagery of peeking behind the curtain. I say, “I’d like to invite you behind the curtain, to see how things go here and be a part of what we do behind the curtain so that you could get a sense for, if this is the sort of work that you feel drawn to.” @ClintJClifton
Equipping precedes calling. We got to be doing a lot of equipping, and usually calling grows out of the fertile soil of equipping, not the opposite. @ClintJClifton
Covenant members are the first level of leadership in our church. And then we’re always looking for covenant members who are serving above and beyond the standard. Who’s hungry for more? Always trying to call out the called. @NoahOldham
The number one qualification of an elder is that they aspire to the office. A lot of people don’t know they have permission to aspire to it until we give them permission. @NoahOldham
It’s really powerful when your pastor comes to you and says he sees gifts in you and invites you into a category most people aren’t invited into. That really begins to ignite a passion for church planting. @ClintJClifton
When you have been a pastor and a church planter, you can recognize those gifts in others and you should verbalize that. @ClintJClifton
For us, what we do in a residency comes down to who the guy is. What does he need? @NoahOldham
You’ve got to create your own way in training. You’re going to become familiar with a whole bunch of tools that apply to various situations. We basically have a syllabus that covers everything but, depending on the situation, we don’t always do all of it. @ClintJClifton
The ability to lead a church plant and to lead a team comes by being in a church plant and being on a team. @NoahOldham
It’s almost impossible too, to reproduce something you’ve never seen. @ClintJClifton
If you have a guy with the ability to plant a church and you know it is three to five years before he needs to plant, get him on your team and call it a residency. @NoahOldham
If planting churches is in your church’s DNA, you just can’t help but do it. @NoahOldham
Having a residency is sort of like having a girlfriend. You can’t describe it. You’ve just got to get one and then you’ll understand. @ClintJClifton
One of the major things I’m trying to do in residency is help somebody see themselves as they truly are. @ClintJClifton
Cage stagers don’t make it very far in residencies. @NoahOldham
Residency is simply discipling future church leaders. @ClintJClifton
If you have great leaders in your church, you’re going to lose them, one way or the other. You can either prepare them and send them or you can lose them and someone else prepares them and sends them. @NoahOldham
I want us to be the church that identifies those leaders, speaks life into them and helps them with their calling, but then also prepares them. @NoahOldham
We’re not starting franchises here. We’re starting a family. @ClintJClifton
Helpful Resources:
Free download: Church Planting Thresholds
Free download: Pillar Church residency syllabus
namb.net/residencies
Quick Start Guide
Starting a residency video
Find a residency
Send Network’s Multiplication Pipeline
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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Jan 25, 2022 • 25min
Getting Serious About Getting Healthy
Episode 635: The physical health of a church planter directly affects his spiritual health – and both are critically intertwined with the work God has called him to do. Host Clint Clifton and Noah Oldham, NAMB’s senior director of church planting deployment, discuss their own fitness journeys and how the lack of fitness may point to deeper, unresolved spiritual issues in a person’s life.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
How Noah Oldham came to realize “something had to change” physically in his life
The first steps to take in getting a handle on your fitness
How a change in your physical life affects your spiritual life
That food, comfort and laziness can be used to hide areas of brokenness in your life.
How not addressing a fellow pastor’s lack of fitness can be doing him – and yourself – a disservice.
How lack of fitness undermines your respectability with your people
Why community and accountability are essential for maintaining physical fitness.
What to do when the people around you don’t value their physical health
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Usually when I see a friend that loses weight, or when I’ve lost weight myself, I’m very skeptical about how long it’s going to last. @ClintJClifton
Health for a church planter, both spiritually and physically, is critically intertwined in the work we do. @ClintJClifton
I found a personal trainer who works with pastors and he set me on a trajectory. I’ve not looked back. @NoahOldham
Something just clicked in my soul. Something has to change, and it has to be now. It’s never going to get easier. @NoahOldham
It’s not about changing your diet and exercise. You have to change your discipline. @NoahOldham
It really became a labor of love – one of the ways I unplug from the rest of the stuff I’m doing, to walk in discipleship with other men, to help them find the kind of freedom I found. @NoahOldham
In 2 Timothy, Paul says that in the last days, people will be without “self-control.” That word often is translated as “incontinent.” I realized that either I don’t care or I can’t control myself. @NoahOldham
We need the literal, the miraculous grace of God to do a work in us, and that’s what I saw happen in my life. The grace of God trained me to say no to myself and yes to the new paths he had for me. @NoahOldham
You’ve got to peel back some of the layers and deal with the heartache underneath this stuff. @NoahOldham
Often the physical is just a manifestation of another area of our life that’s probably just as messy, just as sloppy, just as unmonitored. We’re monitoring so many other things that we don’t look at this one until too late. @NoahOldham
One thing I saw was that I loved satisfaction and instantgratification more than I thought I did. @NoahOldham
When we start talking about looking to the marketplace to raise up pastors, we’re reaching into this pool of men who may say, “He’s the kind of guy I want to be.” @NoahOldham
We’re doing one another, as brothers, as pastors, a disservice, because if we’re both struggling with our health, we should be able to come to each other and say, “How do we do this together? How do we lock arms for one another?” @NoahOldham
The biggest challenge is that you have to come to the point where you say, “I’m not this kind of person anymore.” @NoahOldham
If I want to attract disciplined, ready, capable, sacrificial men, I got to show myself to be that. And there was an area of my life I wasn’t showing that. @NoahOldham
As pastors who don’t go to the bottle when we have problems, food is a ready escape for us. @ClintJClifton
There’s a culture that thinks people who exercise and care about their physical health is something weird people do. We think, “Everybody’s a little overweight, and that’s the way it is and it’s OK.” @ClintJClifton
Helpful Resources:
Website: pastorfit.com
Book: Breaking the Stronghold of Food
Have you checked out our Church Planting Primer?
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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Jan 20, 2022 • 20min
Dreaming Big on a Shoestring Budget
Episode 634: Can a church-planter or team dream big on a shoestring budget? Co-hosts Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins explain why being “under-resourced” actually is a big advantage.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
Why being “under-resourced” actually is helpful for a church-planting team
How a “we can if …” map can help you and a team process through a problem
How vision clarity and focus made a difference in how churches weathered the Covid crisis
Why attendance isn’t engagement, and engagement isn’t discipleship
Which comes first: clear vision or adequate resources
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
Being “under-resourced” actually is helpful because it forces conversations and choices that are really healthy, long term versus perpetuating things that are not essential. @Todd Adkins
Being “under-resourced” causes you to boil down to essentials. @ClintJClifton
There’s a huge lie out there that in order to be creative and innovative, I need unlimited time and unlimited resources. You actually will be much better off having finite time and finite resources. @Todd Adkins
It’s easier and it’s more fun to attempt great things for the Lord on on a limited budget. Your resource “poverty” can actually be an advantage when it comes to growth. In our day, people are really skeptical of the big, wealthy and powerful. That gives a scrappy upstart an advantage over the well-funded franchise. @ClintJClifton
You can actually capitalize on the advantages that have been given to you as a church planter on a shoestring budget if you will just simply own it and and live in that reality. You should not see your your “poverty” as as a disadvantage, but as an advantage. @ClintJClifton
Clear vision always is followed by a sufficient resourcing. @ClintJClifton
We have measured attendance and called it engagement, and measured engagement and called it discipleship. @Todd Adkins
When we have a clear and compelling vision about what it is that we’re doing, then resources flow. If we focus on the resources and say, “Why don’t we have the resources?”, then the resources don’t necessarily come very easily. @ClintJClifton
When we’re headed in a direction that pleases the lord and that makes sense to the people who are around us, people are happy to be generous. @ClintJClifton
I want you to dream big even if you’re on a shoestring budget, especially if you’re planting a church. @ClintJClifton
If you are feeling under-resourced, you’re really under-inspiring, because there are people around you who have the ability to resource you. They just aren’t sure it is a good stewardship. @ClintJClifton
If people are serving in your church, they’re actually more likely to give – not only of their time but of their money as well. @Todd Adkins
As people come in and begin to serve, that’s when they put more skin in the game. @Todd Adkins
The clearer, the more compelling, the bigger your dream, the more easily donors will give to see that accomplished. If you’re lamenting the size of your budget and seeing that as the limitation to what you can do for the kingdom, you’re thinking of it backwards. @ClintJClifton
Helpful Resources:
Book: A Beautiful Constraint: How to Transform Your Limitations into Advantages
Book: Simple Church: Returning to God’s Process for Making Disciples
Article: Moving from “We Can’t” to “We Can” in Ministry
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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Jan 18, 2022 • 21min
Building a Team from Scratch
Episode 633: If a church planter has “parachuted” into an unfamiliar city, how can he best go about building a team from scratch? Co-hosts Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins offer a plethora of hacks that will promote success.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
Several leadership hacks helpful for “parachute”planters
The power of a relationship that helps others move forward in the same direction over time
The value of clear role descriptions for team members
The two values of good training
The four kinds of moments you want to create in team building
Two good reasons to get involved in the Chamber of Commerce
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
I don’t recall who said it, but it’s true: People will will follow you if you’re uncertain; they won’t follow you if you’re unclear. @ToddAdkins
You don’t have to have it all figured out, but you at least need to have kind of a compelling vision for the future and have a place in it for each team member. @ToddAdkins
You need to have documented clarity: role descriptions for all your volunteers. You can get a win almost immediately simply by having a one-page role description in place. @ToddAdkins
You want to avoid the volunteer over-committing and coming back to you saying, “Hey I didn’t realize what this was.” @ToddAdkins
Clarity builds confidence for team members. @ToddAdkins
Good training does two things in equal parts: It gives both competence and confidence. @ToddAdkins
You don’t want to just recruit anybody that can fog a mirror. You want to think about the type of people you want to recruit and the way you want that to happen. @ToddAdkins
Some planters make “the big ask” in a safe, lighthearted way, and the person they ask isn’t quite sure if they’re serious. The more appropriate, more effective way is to have a serious conversation that creates a compelling moment they will not forget. @ClintJClifton
It’s not just the volume of impressions you’re making. It’s the quality of your interactions with people that make a huge difference. @ClintJClifton
Recruiting goes back to “seek first to understand and then be understood.” It goes back to just being insanely curious about your community. Schedule curiosity into your week. @ToddAdkins
Far too many times, ministry is something we do to people, not for people. @ToddAdkins
Helpful Resources:
– Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
– Are you ready to enroll in our free Church Planting Masterclass?
– Chip and Dan Heath books: Made to Stick and The Power of Moments
– Web-search “questions based selling”
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Jan 13, 2022 • 25min
Starting a Residency
Episode 632: Church-based residencies are a growing trend in ministerial and church planter training. Co-hosts Ed Stetzer and Dhati Lewis discuss the complexities and simplicities of such programs and offer some valuable insight on how churches both large and small can launch residency programs.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
How Blueprint Church was started to be a “blueprint” for other churches planting churches
The wide variety of training going on under the banner of “Residencies”
How residents learn the complexities of disciple making so members can be given the simplicity
The radical approach of training every biblically qualified person in your church, then allowing God to show them their calling
Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):
You need to be aware of a growing trend where churches are adopting a strategy to raise up church planters from within – or sometimes they kind of become within, do a two-year residency and then go out and plant churches. @edstetzer
At Blueprint Church, we say every covenant member is either a covocational church planter or a covocational church planting team member. @dhatilewis
We started Blueprint Church with a desire that we were going to be a church that’s planting other churches. We wanted to be a blueprint so we knew that was going to to take place. @dhatilewis
We didn’t necessarily have a timeline, per se, but we started doing different things and had an internship that led to an apprenticeship, and from apprentice to a residency. It was a leadership pipeline. @dhatilewis
Oftentimes we focus in on the calling. But if you train everybody who’s biblically qualified in your church, then God is going to match up people’s call to the burden in the cry-outs of the city. @dhatilewis
We had people living in our home for you months at a time and we would teach them how to be leaders. And we said, “You guys are our next small group leaders.” We would cast that vision with an expectation similar to Jesus’ call, “Follow me and you will become fishers of men.” @dhatilewis
We were beginning with the end in mind. It was discipleship with a very specific and targeted destination of where we’re going. We put it up on a higher bar. @dhatilewis
Once they became small group leaders, then they became ministry leaders, and then they became Titus to women and elders and then they become elders. In that call, we sent them out as teams to plant churches. @dhatilewis
Let’s just train everybody and let God bring out the calling in their lives. We started having a discipleship leadership program every member and allowed God to discover how that’s going to flesh out in their lives. @dhatilewis
Disciple making is not a ministry of the church; it’s the ministry of the church and residency is just one outgrowth of the call to discipleship.
While most large churches have gotten very much into residencies, you don’t have to be a really large church to engage this. @edstetzer
In residencies, there tends to be a curriculum and a series of expectations. We are seeing more churches taking on historically the role that might have been like an agency. @edstetzer
You can plant churches and not make any disciples but, ultimately, if you make disciples you will plant churches. @dhatilewis
This is not the Jetsons, where you can just press a button and then churches come out and disciples are made There’s a lot in this operating system. You got to own the complexity so the simplicity is given to your members. @dhatilewis
As a volunteer, part-time pastor, I limited myself to four things: preaching, meeting with leadership, leading a small group in my home and leading our pastoral apprentice team. @edstetzer
Helpful Resources:
Learn how to start a robust residency program at namb.net/residencies
Download the Residency Quick Start Guide
Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
Learn more about Dhati Lewis’ book, Among Wolves: Disciple-Making in the City
Learn more about Ed Stetzer’s book, Viral Churches
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