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As entrepreneurs and product-based business owners, there comes a time for all of us when we have to make the decision to pivot. The pivot period can be a tough and turbulent time, but today on Proof to Product, my friend Kristin Kaplan is here to tell us how she managed to gracefully pivot away from her successful wedding planning business after 10 years to begin working as an integrator for online entrepreneurs. Kristin now creates strategic plans, action steps and manages profitable, sustainable businesses. She is also the host of the Planning for Profit Podcast, the creator of The Pricing Workbook and the founder of Plan to Profit, a monthly program to help visionary business owners reach their goals. On top of all that, Kristin also balances life as a wife, mother to three kiddos, organization addict, beauty & skincare lover, marathoner, and wine drinker (she needs at least one vice to manage all of the above). On today's episode, Kristin and I are talking about what it means to be an Integrator - what they do and how to know if you're ready for one. We also talk about pivoting in business - the fears surrounding it but also how it shows growth as a CEO and money mindset, particularly how to positively frame your thoughts around money. If you're looking for advice on how to manage it all, or how to make your pivot period easier, this episode is 100% for you! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Kristin's entrepreneurial path The difference between Project Managers and Integrators Why Integrators are often born out of Virtual Assistant roles Her areas of expertise and how she helps clients The importance of focusing on revenue-generating tasks Tips to improve your goal setting How to know if you're ready for an Integrator The pricing range for hiring an Integrator Why it's natural to pivot in your business How little nudges can lead you in a whole new direction The exciting parts of closing one business to open another Strategies for resolving your money hangups Advice for first-time entrepreneurs What's up next for Kristin KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "My job is to come into someone's business, help plan out all the processes and systems and everything. My job is to make everything happen." - Kristin Kaplan "Money is just a tool. It's not the scary evil thing that we all have to be afraid of. It's okay to build a profitable business that makes you some." - Kristin Kaplan "My biggest strength is being able to take a really big goal or vision and then break it down into pieces so that it actually gets done." - Kristin Kaplan "It's so helpful to get an outside perspective on what your goals are, what your financial goals are, what you're trying to accomplish, what kind of impact do you want to make in your business." - Katie Hunt "Sometimes as creatives, everyone wants to chase the new shiny object that's right in front of them." - Kristin Kaplan "I wish people would play a little more and set bigger and bigger goals because once you start setting huge goals, even if you don't meet most of them, you play at a different level, take bigger risks and invest more." - Kristin Kaplan "It's super fun to do the vision board, but then, how exactly are you going to make that happen...like specifically?" - Kristin Kaplan "A piece that a lot of creative entrepreneurs just struggle with is how to create the stepping stones they need to get to the final product or end goal that they want." - Katie Hunt "Once you hit that point of like, all right, I'm looking to bring on my second or third team member, I'm ready to operate as the CEO, that's the time to think about hiring an integrator or project manager." - Kristin Kaplan "It is hard to stay in the exact same place for decades on end. It gets old for most of us. I feel like we're all in this natural journey." - Kristin Kaplan "It's natural to pivot. We have to continue to stay relevant in our businesses and that's what pivoting is. It's just continuing to evolve as a person, as a CEO, as an entrepreneur, and how we interact with our customers." - Katie Hunt "Pivoting is evolving." - Kristin Kaplan "Just focus your attention on being positive, being grateful, feeling abundant, and try to move away from any feelings of negativity and scarcity." - Kristin Kaplan LINKS Website: https://www.kristinkaplan.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristinckaplan/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kristinkaplanLLC/ SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

We've heard a lot of fun origin stories on the Proof to Product Podcast, but today's episode with Dani Paquin, founder of the jewelry company Agapantha, is an extra sweet and serendipitous start-up story. Dani founded her jewelry company in 2004 somewhere on a dusty road as she was touring the United States as a singer-songwriter. Between tours, Dani worked at her home in Brooklyn assembling jewelry for other designers, but at that moment on the road, she finally realized she had to bring her own designs to life. So Agapantha was born and an important artistic shift was made. What does Agapantha mean? It's the first flower that Dani's grandmother taught her to say. Today, Dani pays homage to her and the inspirational women in her life by naming each collection after someone special. Her delicate, minimalist layering jewelry that is sold in boutiques around the world and Agapantha recently celebrated 15th years of business. On today's episode, Dani shares her start-up story. We talk about how she slowly and thoughtfully grew her jewelry line over the years and how she scaled production for a handmade product. Dani also encourages all of us to just keep going - because you never know where things will lead. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Dani got started making jewelry What inspires her work The way Agapantha has evolved over the years How frequently Dani releases new pieces Pain points of catering to both retail and wholesale The first role Dani hired for The importance of training and trusting your team How Dani shifted her business model and scaled up What she learned from 15 years of entrepreneurship Beneficial mistakes and resources that helped Dani get where she is today Advice for individuals just starting out KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "Let's be real. We're all trying to do the job of about one million people." - Dani Paquin "I've been working really hard to find great people that I can trust and I can give things away. To try to start focusing more on what I'm really good at and what I want to do." - Dani Paquin "There are times where even if we have a team, we still have to get our hands dirty. It's still our company. We have to do the work." - Katie Hunt "It took me a long time to be okay with having someone in my space that I didn't feel like I needed to talk to or feel like I had to entertain. That's a big change when you're used to working alone." - Dani Paquin "Manufacturing is one of those big pivots decisions. It's an opportunity for growth but it can be scary." - Kaite Hunt "I'm in the midst of my first project where I'm manufacturing overseas for a much larger scale project than we could do on our own here. It's really exciting and really scary. But I feel like a doorway into something new." - Dani Paquin "Ultimately it always comes back to how much I love what I do and I don't want to do anything else. Just to just keep going, one day at a time. One foot in front of the other. You do your best." - Dani Paquin "Once you embrace making mistakes and failing, not as a failure, but as an opportunity for growth, then you know what not to do. You have to get through that In order to go farther. There's no way to do it without that." - Dani Paquin "If you meet someone and you have an instinct about them, that you're not going to get paid or something's off, trust your instincts. Don't be in a store just to be in a store." - Dani Paquin "We're artists and designers and that doesn't mean we're bad at business. But often it means that the business side is not what we're focusing on." - Dani Paquin "It's always nice to have an outside perspective weighing in on your business decisions because it's so personal to you. It's so close to you. It is your art." - Katie Hunt "It's okay to say "no" to some things that don't feel right. Keep going. Or know when to quit." - Dani Paquin LINKS Website: http://www.agapantha.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agapanthajewelry/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agapanthajewelry/ SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Has being an entrepreneur and your own boss helped unlock new skills or uncover new parts of your personality? It definitely has for Arianne Foulks, founder of Aeolidia, a design studio specializing in designing and developing custom e-commerce websites using Shopify, as well as logo design, product packaging, product photography, content creation, and business naming. Before starting Aeolidia in 2004, Arianne was shy and avoided talking to clients over the phone. Today, after 15 years in business and growing her team to more than twenty-three employees, Arianne is bold in her business. She speaks and teaches at events, hosts business owner brunches, and looks forward to talking with people about their companies. On today's episode, Arianne and I chat about how she built her agency and grew her team over the years. We talk about common misconceptions some creative entrepreneurs have, the advantages of using Shopify, and the importance of abandoned cart emails. Arianne also shares details about the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Business Program, an investment program that helps entrepreneurs grow their businesses through education, capital and support services. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Common misconception creative entrepreneurs have about branding, marketing, and websites What really goes into a logo and behind a brand How Arianne moved into the branding, marketing, website world Aeolidia's e-commerce checklist The importance of digging into data and analytics and knowing what's working and not working Why Arianne is a fan of Shopify for product based businesses Advice for shop owners on how to prevent abandoned carts What sets Aeolidia apart from the competition How Arianne helps clients stick to their deadlines The balance between business results and personal service How having a baby forced Arianne to grow and delegate in her company Resources, mentors, and programs that have contributed to Arianne's success KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "The logo is the very tip of the iceberg of your brand. But when you know what's going on with an iceberg, most of it is underwater. At Aeolidia it's all the underwater stuff that we love people to get started with first." - Arianne Foulks "Customer service is really the foundation of building a good business." - Arianne Foulks "I'm a firm believer in hiring people that are smarter than me and that can teach me a thing or two." - Katie Hunt "I was a customer service pro by the time I got started working with clients, and that gave me such a huge leap in being able to just jump into it and do a good job." - Arianne Foulks "It turns out that running a business is a very creative pursuit whether you're designing things or not, and I really find it satisfying the whole way through." - Arianne Foulks "One of the quotes that's always in my head, I just think all the time is 'What got you here will not get you there." - Arianne Foulks "There are some people that feel like, "Well, I hired you to design it and develop it. Just create it." It's like, "Well, no. You as a business owner have to tell us what kind of copy, what kind of images, what kind of details you want on that." - Katie Hunt "You have to remember that people who are almost buying something from you are really into it. It's something they actually want, so they're not unhappy to see it again." - Arianne Foulks "You should be fairly aggressive about sending people the emails because they're already not buying the product from you. They've already decided not to. It's not like you can lose them any more than that." - Arianne Foulks "If people don't know about your products, they're not going to purchase them." - Katie Hunt "I started realizing it's really fun to just run the business. It actually is a creative pursuit." - Arianne Foulks "I think my husband's least favorite words for me are, "I have an idea." - Katie Hunt LINKS Website: https://aeolidia.com/ Facebook: http://facebook.com/aeolidia Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aeolidia.shipshape/ Instagram: http://instagram.com/aeolidia SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Have you ever come home from a long day at your corporate job and realized like, "Okay, so my job is feeding my family, but definitely not my soul." What do you do? Well, today's Proof to Product guest is telling us how she figured it out. By age 28, Nicole Walters was a highly-paid executive at a Fortune 500 company, managing multibillion dollar accounts, but something wasn't right. So Nicole quit her corporate job, and she made waves when she quit in front of 10,000 people while live streaming on Periscope. She went on to open her own private business and product development consulting firm, The Monetized Life. As Nicole's audience ramped up so did her revenue—she made $11,000 in the first three weeks of working with small business clients full time. Now, when she's not hanging out with her husband and their three foster kids, she shares her secrets to earning "passive income" with other entrepreneurs through her wildly popular online course, 1K1Day. "I teach people how to add commas to their bank accounts," says Nicole. "They learn that they don't have to trade time for money." On today's episode, Nicole and I sit down to talk about common mistakes she sees eager entrepreneurs making and why old school sales strategies still work. We also talk about why you can't rely solely on social media for sales, the importance of having multiple revenue streams and why you need to treat your business like a business from day one. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Common mistakes Nicole sees eager entrepreneurs making Tips on where to focus your marketing time and money The problem of relying on social media platforms Benefits of sticking with the old school methods What really gets customers in the door How to make a 40-50 hour work week feel like 4 hours The lessons Nicole took from corporate life and applied as an entrepreneur Her strongest marketing tool today Nicole's favorite success stories How saying no is a form of self care Advice for brand new business owners and entrepreneurs experiencing growing pains The importance of acting like a business from the get-go What success looks like for Nicole today KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "If the only place that you're selling is on your social media platform, well guess what? It's not yours. You don't own it." - Nicole Walters "Word of mouth is still good. So all that matters that you're actually able to get to people who have mouths and are able to spread the word. Old School still works." - Nicole Walters "Make sure that you're telling your story authentically and being honest about who you are. Because if you do that, if you tell your true story, well guess what? You'll never get it wrong." - Nicole Walters "Wear your heart on your sleeve, because it's that same heart that'll put cash in your pocket." - Nicole Walters "It was time for me to quit and I decided to do in grand fashion. I decided that I wasn't just going to burn the bridge behind me. I was going to singe it and blow away the ashes." - Nicole Walters "I was ready to become an entrepreneur. So instead of taking those tools to fat cats at multi-billion dollar companies, I'm taking them to everyday entrepreneurs who are using them to feed their families and their souls." - Nicole Walters "I get to see the change and the transition and the transformation in people's families and livelihoods. Being able to really put money into people's pockets instead of watching it go to a new Gulfstream jet or a new golf membership at a country club, you know, it's really, really rewarding. And I love it." - Nicole Walters "I'll be the first one to tell you if I'm doing my job well, guess what? We shouldn't work together forever." - Nicole Walters "Look at the quarterlies, look at your revenue and your expenses, all of it. There might be certain quarters that are slow, but if you can plan for that and know about that in advance, it just sets you up for the longterm." - Katie Hunt "I'm a mom and I'm married and the other side of it is honestly, I couldn't keep up with my business if I didn't get healthy. That's the reality of it." - Nicole Walters "There's this misconception of self care, that it's going and getting a manicure and/or like, you know, or going to get coffee or whatever and it's like self care comes in so many different forms." - Katie Hunt "I'm allowed to say no to things that don't serve me because if I say no, then I'm taking care of the things that do serve me. And that is a form of self care." - Nicole Walters "You want to seize opportunities, but at the same time you need to protect your time and your sanity." - Katie Hunt "Act like a business if you want to get paid like one, get out there and get your legal stuff in order. Make sure that you understand the importance of finances, quick books, getting all that stuff done and I know it's big and scary." - Nicole Walters "The minute you take a dollar, you are acting like a business and you need to get paid like one." - Nicole Walters "Sometimes we get in our own way, we overthink things or we don't relinquish control when we need to or we're afraid to bring on more team members to handle things because we think nobody can do it the way we can." - Katie Hunt LINKS Website: http://nicolewalters.tv Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MonetizeThyself/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolewalters/ Periscope: https://www.periscope.tv/NapturalNicole Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/napturalnicole Twitter: https://twitter.com/napturalnicole SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends, have you heard of Raddish? It's a super cool monthly cooking club that empowers kids to build confidence in the kitchen and beyond. Today's guest, Samantha Barnes the CEO and founder of Raddish, founded the company after working as a middle school teacher. A mom of two, Samantha realized the kitchen was the best place to connect with her kids in a meaningful way, and in true entrepreneurship fashion, she was inspired to start her own company. Samantha's passion for family is visible in every aspect of her company. As a female founder, she is committed to running results-oriented and flexible company built on autonomy, working smart, and a positive work/life balance. On today's episode, Samantha and I dive into her subscription based business model and how it has evolved over time. The two of us talk about her business journey, how the company started out of her garage, how her team has evolved, the logistics of getting her product to market. We also talk about the pros and cons of running a subscription based business, how she learned how to delegate, what she does when she's feeling burnt out. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Samantha got the idea for Raddish Why she decided to go with a subscription model The benefits of growing slow and working by trial and error Creating continuous content and dealing with unexpected hurdles The steps Samantha took to scale up Her decision to keep her team lean and mean How Raddish cultivates the customer experience Learning to delegate when it's not your strength Avoiding shiny distractions for the long term goal Lessons Samantha learned in her business journey Two things she does to stay grounded in the chaos KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "We did not go into it having some large strategy. We learned by doing. We launched on Kickstarter in October and we shipped our first kit in January." - Samantha Barnes "In the beginning, we were simply finding the right tool and trying to get the right quantity and have it delivered at the right time. And now we're able to go out and we custom-create our tools." - Samantha Barnes "I live in a small house in Los Angeles. So it had its own challenges. We would have easy ups all throughout the backyard and our production line had to go out into the backyard because we couldn't fit in the garage anymore." - Samantha Barnes "Because we are self-funded we are really careful about how we grow. Making sure we have the great product, making sure that we're minimizing our churn and really keeping members for longer is important." - Samantha Barnes "It's a critical growth step as an entrepreneur. It's like, okay, I need to start delegating more and releasing control so that we can grow and so that we can get more done in a day." - Katie Hunt "We call our Facebook group users the Raddish army because they come to bat for us, you know, they really want to help families understand exactly how great the product is." - Samantha Barnes "We're definitely a word of mouth product and started that way, and that is definitely how we got off the ground." - Samantha Barnes "Delegating is not my strength, it's something I have had to learn and I continue to learn." - Samantha Barnes "I have the right people in the right seats and I just have the expectation that somebody is going to get that done and I don't micromanage or oversee the process." - Samantha Barnes "My whole motivation was hiring people that were smarter than me that could teach me things. Take the tasks, run with them, and I trust them to do it well and do what we need to head towards the goal." - Katie Hunt "Learning from others and being open to learning and talking to as many people as you can and experiencing as many opportunities is really important. That's the big picture idea." - Samantha Barnes "I mean, I love baths and manicures and pedicures, but if I have free time, I'm thinking what can I do that's really going to inspire me and make me feel better and make me kind of reset. Reading has been a big one for me over the last couple of years because it does feel indulgent too." - Katie Hunt LINKS Website: http://Raddishkids.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/raddishkids Facebook group: http://facebook.com/groups/raddishfoodandfamily/ Instagram: http://instagram.com/raddishkids SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

On today's episode of Proof to Product I'm sitting down with a gal I greatly admire, who I have had the pleasure of working with for a few years now through Paper Camp and my Proof to Product Mastermind coaching program. Meet Kiwi Schloffel, the brains and brawn behind Craft Boner, a stationery gift brand with the sole focus of making people chuckle. That's a common theme in greeting cards, Kiwi takes it seriously. Her goal, in her own words, "Is to make you laugh. Not in the ha-ha-I'm-being-polite kind of way but actual big belly laughs that make your eyes water and give you an annoying stomach cramp because you just can't stop." Over the course of the last eight years, Kiwi opened a retail space then decided to leave that retail space. She expanded her product line to more than 300 SKUs across multiple product categories and then recently discontinued over half of those products. She amassed an Instagram following of over 16,000 people just like that, and today we are talking about all of it. Kiwi and I sit down to talk about the transitions, the fears, and how making these shifts have allowed her to do fewer things even better within her business. Kiwi acknowledges that she's still figuring out her next steps, and that's why this interview is so important. At the end of the day, no matter how successful, aren't we all just trying to figure it out? I hope you enjoy this fun episode! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What led Kiwi to start Craft Boner How she turned her blog into a product based business The first products Kiwi ever sold Transitioning into wholesale Balancing the love to create and the reality of outsource to scale How Kiwi decided which skews to keep and how cutting skews can lead to greater freedom The importance of intentional business shifts Benefits of embracing the way your individual, unique brain works How Kiwi realized she didn't want a business empire Logistics of switching KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "In my heart I'm just an introvert who wants to make things." - Kiwi Schloffer "When I moved home I was like, you know what, I'm going to be that millennial cliche. I'm going to live in my dad's basement and try to do my own thing." - Kiwi Schloffer "It's something a lot of people don't realize. When you first start a business, it's so, so slow. You can always find stuff to do, but there's just not usually a lot of money coming in." - Kiwi Schloffer "When I started in my dad's basement, the dream was always to make this my full time gig. But I honestly never thought it would happen." - Kiwi Schloffer "I didn't even have any framework. I didn't even know what the ladder was. I didn't even know, I knew what a skew number was, but I was like, I don't know what that has to do with me." - Kiwi Schloffer "We don't know what we don't know at the beginning." - Katie Hunt "My experience is never, ever, ever been from a business perspective, it's never been about margins. It has always been about what can I make and how can I make it fun? " - Kiwi Schloffer "I'd stay up until four in the morning because I had a full time job at that point, and I was like, I can not keep doing this, something has to change." - Kiwi Schloffer "Business is not one size fits all. It is not a step ladder that we're all climbing with the same steps. It's truly like a rollercoaster with zigzags where we take two steps to the right and then go up and back or whatever." - Katie Hunt "I've always approached something like, I can do this myself, and not finding people that can do it for me. So now it's been a weird shift to realize I can design this thing and someone else can make it. That's crazy. " - Kiwi Schloffer "I told myself I can figure out inventory systems, the accounting. I can figure out all this stuff. I can hire people, add more products, more overhead, I can be a boss. I can be a CEO, I can manage people, and look at spreadsheets and figure out orders. And I hated that idea." - Kiwi Schloffer "I still don't have it figured out. I'm still in my exploring phase and figuring out what I like, what I don't like. But it's been really exciting." - Kiwi Schloffer LINKS Website: http://www.craftboner.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/craftboner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/craftboner/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/craftboner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/craftboner SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Welcome! If you're listening today that means you're likely interested in applying for our Paper Camp scholarship! Giving back is one of our core values here at Proof to Product and we give back through our time, knowledge as well as financial scholarships. Since 2011, we've awarded over $250,000+ in scholarship funds to creative entrepreneurs who sell physical products to the wholesale market.These brands had big dreams of seeing their products on the shelves of their favorite stores and they have obtained huge results. Our scholarship recipients sell products to Starbucks, REI, Land of Nod, Barnes & Noble, Anthropologie and more. They've built profitable, sustainable companies. They've built businesses that serve the life they want to lead. And, they are active contributors to our Proof to Product community. These scholarships are a big deal and we treat them that way. Last round we reviewed 89 scholarship applications and it took my husband and I three days to all the videos, read the applications, review website and ultimately whittle it down to one full tuition scholarship winner. It's never an easy choice, but we do put a lot of care into our selections. And, today I want to share 5 ways that you can stand out when submitting your Paper Camp application: Tell us WHY and HOW Paper Camp will positively impact your wholesale business. Be specific. Are there certain strategies or tactics that you need help implementing? Be open to sharing what's working and what's not working your business. We've been where you are and if we know where you're struggling, we can identify whether we can help. Your story is important. Why do you do you the work you do, what inspires you when you're creating and what are your goals for the business. You only have 2 minutes in your video to talk about your products, your business needs and where you want to go next. Use that time wisely and connect the dots about how Paper Camp will help you reach those goals. Please do not use this time to tell us about financial or personal difficulties you are facing or have faced. Talk about your dreams & aspirations for the business. Be specific in how Paper Camp can help. If you listen to the Proof to Product podcast, if you've utilized our free resource library, if you're a member of LABS, if you're friends with Paper Camp alumni… tell us! Particularly if you've utilized our podcast and free resources to make positive changes in your business. Our scholarship recipients are proactive, they are resourceful, they understand the value of our community and the educational resources available through Proof to Product. They understand that business growth takes time and hard work… show us you've utilized alll the incredible free resources we share to take forward action in your business We want our scholarship recipient to understand the value of what they are winning. Meaning, the value of the education, coaching and community they receive by attending Paper Camp far exceeds the price tag of our tuition. We expect our scholarship winner to show up, ask questions, participate in live calls, connect with other members of our community, to pay it forward in different ways and take advantage of everything Paper Camp has to offer. If you can not be an active participant in Paper Camp, then please do not apply for scholarship. Lastly, please follow instructions carefully. This includes answering all questions thoroughly and changing video settings so that anyone can watch it. If you submit an incomplete application or we can not view your video, we will not consider your application and its always a bummer when this happens. To sum it up, we want to hear about your business. We want to know why you're building the business you are, where you need help in your business and how Paper Camp fits into your next steps. Easy enough, right? If you'd like to apply for our Paper Camp scholarship, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com/scholarships. Also, if you're listening when applications are closed, I strongly recommend joining our email list so that you're notified of upcoming scholarship opportunities and you'll get our emails each week with important strategies and tactics to grow your business. Sign up for that at www.prooftoproduct.com/newsletter That's all I have for you to day. Good luck and thanks for listening!

So many of us are solopreneurs, but have you ever met another small business bad-ass and totally clicked? That's what happened for today's guests, Minna Khounlo-Sithep and Jacqueline Snyder, voices behind The Product Boss Podcast. For some background, after Minna had her first child she was inspired to start Lil' Labels, write-on kids labels that are sold at retail giants like Amazon, Walmart and Jet. At the same time, Jacqueline was running her own product based business, Cuffs Couture, and growing her international sales. Jacqueline reached out to Minna in a business Facebook group, and the two totally hit it off. Today, Jacqueline and Minna work together to teach business owners how to grow their product-based businesses with smart strategy and a community around them. In addition to running the podcast, they each still own their own businesses. On Episode 110, we're all sitting down to talk about the pros and cons business partnerships, how Minna and Jacqueline divide responsibilities, and what to look for if you're considering taking on a new partner. We also talk about how Minna and Jacqueline juggle their multiple businesses, and they share their top tips for product based business owners. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What inspired Minna and Jacqueline to start their own businesses The evolution and importance of celebrity endorsement How Minna and Jacqueline met Moving from online, becoming friends, and deciding to partner up Hesitancies of forming a partnership Dividing responsibilities How Jacqueline and Minna balance their individual businesses with The Product Boss The importance of implicit trust Questions to ask yourself before finding a business partner Strategies for dealing with day to day stressors Shifts Jacqueline and Minna have seen in the industry Alternatives to tradeshows and advice for scaling your business What's up next for The Product Boss KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I dug in and I figured it out, and I had the tenacity of a pregnant woman going to give birth. So the rest from there just was it seemed easy." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "I'm very much a book learner. So it was in my mind that I could just learn all about Amazon. I was already a fan of Amazon, so I basically schooled myself on Amazon." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "I was in my 20s and going out and wanting to dance and have no purse. I always hated having to put my purse under like a jacket in the corner at bar. And so I created Cuffs Couture, which were fashionable, chic wrist wallets." - Jacqueline Snyder "We started a business without realizing we were starting a business, and yeah. She's not a serial killer. So at least a good thing, right?" - Jacqueline Snyder "We get so many ideas going as entrepreneurs. We just know how to do things. We kind of know how to execute or figure it out along the way. And then on top of it, we really did have a great connection." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "We approach things very differently, and the thing is we get along really, really well. But I think the key is we trust each other implicitly." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "Big brands are not as agile as a smaller entrepreneur. We can try something today and if it doesn't work tomorrow, we can shift gears, or we can try again in a different way." - Katie Hunt "My biggest thing with being a partner is like, "Am I doing enough? Am I showing up and handling my role? Am I doing enough?" - Jacqueline Snyder "It's highly psychological, lots of mindset, and you have to be able to see that other person as a full partner that has all these fears and joys too. So you're always trying to balance that out." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "We're complete opposites as far as personality wise or approaches. But we definitely have the same love for so many things. We love our families. Our why is exactly the same." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "I don't think I would work well with a partner. Maybe I'm too bossy, I don't know. Too decisive. But I think that's why I find partnerships so fascinating because when you have two of the right people together, amazing things can happen." - Katie Hunt "The face of product entrepreneurship and a product business is really changing, which is why you can see why stories are so important. Learning how to sell with your story and those personal brands is more important than ever before." - Minna Khounlo-Sithep "The opportunities have shifted for product based businesses, and the customer has changed quite a bit too. So it's an interesting dynamic how we have to adapt as product based business owners." - Katie Hunt LINKS Website: http://www.lillabels.com; http://www.theproductboss.com Instagram: http://instagram.com/lillabelsco; http://instagram.com/theproductboss SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Do you remember when you first started your business? How about your first card? Do you ever go back and look at work you were doing in those early stages and wonder, what was I thinking?! I know from experience it can be cringe-worthy or just hilarious, but that's the beauty of the business journey! Today on Proof to Product we're welcoming Paper Camp alum, Alicia Heater of Slightly Stationery, to share her business beginning. When Alicia started Slightly Stationery, it was with the belief that women be encouraging and loving to each other through the timeless art of handwritten notes (Oh, and that these handwritten notes should make people chuckle, and also be super cute, too.) Today, continuing this spirit of mutual support, a portion of all Slightly Stationery proceeds go to the Malala Fund to help girls around the world receive a good education. On Episode 109, Alicia talks about how she started her first line, the changes she made along the way and what she learned at Paper Camp. We discuss the financial challenges of business and why giving back is a key part of Slightly Stationery's mission and values. Alicia also shares the importance of taking advice, not being afraid to start over, and what it's like today to have cards in more than 400 stores throughout the U.S. including Paper Source and Anthropologie. We hope you enjoy this fun episode, and that it inspires you to look back at how far you've come in your business journey too! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What prompted Alicia to start her stationery line Why she pivoted from custom wedding invitations to greeting cards Following your heart and making decisions based on your strengths Starting from scratch Taking advice and knowing where to improve How to hone in on your audience When Slightly Stationery releases new product Mistakes Alicia made when she first started with wholesale Changes she made to her business after Paper Camp The importance of patience and persistence Differences between big and small company buying cycles The steps Alicia took so she could start pulling a salary from her company How she chose a philanthropic organization to give back to What Alicia is most proud of in her business KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I was doing a lot of custom work and not making any money on it, so I wondered is there's something out there that I can design one time and sell it a whole bunch times?" - Alicia Heater "It's an experiment in those early years in business. How do I want to structure this? How can I make it sustainable for the long term? And profitable and make it my full-time gig." - Katie Hunt "When you're buying a card in a store, you're buying it because this is perfect for this one person. I had this thought of like I'm trying to design for everybody, so I wasn't designing those kind of cards." - Alicia Heater "I scrapped the idea of trying to design cards that are going to be so generic and good for everybody, because then they're not really special for any one person, and those are the ones that sell." - Alicia Heater "When it feels like you're selling the same thing as everybody else, you need to really find what's unique about your products, and really promote that." - Katie Hunt "When I turned that filter off of my ideas, it opened up a lot of things." - Alicia Heater "People will pick up a card for the way it looks, if it's cute, but they'll buy it because of what it says." - Alicia Heater "I had no idea, so I went and did a bunch of Google searches on like how to sell wholesale and learned so much more about that when I did Paper Camp" - Alicia Heater "Right after Paper Camp, I went out and was working harder at going to get more reps rather than going to get more stores, and it really empowered me to go do the right things. It was a chain reaction." - Alicia Heater "Now they're emailing me, and Anthropologie's like, 'Oh, this card's doing so well for us. Can we carry some more stuff, too?' and I'm like, hmm. Let me think about that for a second. Yes!" - Alicia Heater "Being able to have a business where I can do what I like doing, and it pays the bills, too, is really incredible, and I feel really blessed to have that, so I'm proud of that." - Alicia Heater "Even when you're not making much money, you can still give back." - Alicia Heater LINKS Website: http://www.slightlystationery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/slightlystationery Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slightlystationery/ Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/slightlypaper SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends, welcome back to Proof to Product! Today's guest is Ginger Lyons, a serial entrepreneur who believes positive attitude, abundance mindset, and perseverance are the keys to a successful business model. A military veteran, Ginger is the creator behind Buffalo Girls Salvage, a jewelry design company that transforms salvaged copper, metal and bullet casings into beautiful, handmade pieces. Since 2012, Ginger's company has been inspiring women and honoring law enforcement officials through creative designs. She is also passionate about investing in mainstreet America, supporting small businesses and coaching female entrepreneurs. On today's episode, Ginger and I talk about her incredible "backward" business journey. She shares what it was like to have a storefront, employees, national manufacturing network and the opportunity to appear on Shark Tank, and why she pivoted her business to stay true to her 'why'. We talk about how our definition of success often changes over the course of time, how entrepreneurship is always a choice, and the importance of sharing our journey to help others. I hope you enjoy Ginger's story of growth, strategic pivoting, and the lessons she learned along the way! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Ginger's first business What she learned about herself from her experience in the military Her job as a main street manager in Texas The types of products and core customers at Buffalo Girls Salvage Why Ginger treats her wholesale and shopify accounts as two separate companies The materials and process that goes into creating jewelry Advice for entrepreneurs trying to do it all Fears Ginger had about expanding her team and ensuring quality control Ginger's backward business journey Important questions to ask yourself as a small business owner How Ginger said "no" to Shark Tank and stayed true to her "why" What's next for Ginger, Buffalo Girl Salvage and how she's encouraging more women entrepreneurs KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I think some of us were just born with it. And we discover later in life that's what it is. But there's this feeling of entrepreneurship." - Ginger Lyons "As an entrepreneur in general, I love the idea that we can all contribute to ... I know it sounds cliché, but the American dream. I love that we can all make an impact." - Ginger Lyons "As a main street manager for a city in the state of Texas, I discovered how important main street is in America. We need small businesses and we need to keep them alive. " - Ginger Lyons "If I can give any advice ... it's start asking for help as fast as you can, and getting help in the things that you know you can afford to get. Even in the smallest details, it's important to have others alongside you and not be the-everything-girl." - Ginger Lyons "As entrepreneurs, we're doers. We want to do all the things and it's hard to give up control." - Ginger Lyons "It's hard to give up the control. In the early stages we worry about paying somebody else and we worry about delegating and having the management skills to manage another person too." - Katie Hunt "I believe in the main street, and I believe in us bringing up boutiques, and helping our fellow entrepreneurs develop their businesses. We have to do as much as we can in the US so that we can build up that together." - Ginger Lyons "That's just life as an entrepreneur. We're faced with adversity, we're faced with challenges, we're faced with tons of decisions and we just have to choose to keep going." - Katie Hunt "I firmly believe we are all born with what our path is in life. And our job is to figure out what that is. And so if you spend too much time looking at the path of everyone else around you, you are never going to find the success that you were supposed to find for yourself." - Ginger Lyons "If you're being told "no", fine. Move on. Seriously. Just get over the "no's". And put yourself in positions to do hard things that are uncomfortable." - Ginger Lyons LINKS Website: https://buffalogirlsjewelry.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/buffalogirlssalvage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buffalogirlssalvage/ SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!