
Making Movies is HARD!!!: The Struggles of Indie Filmmaking
Liz Manashil and Alrik Bursell discuss independent filmmaking, everything from writing, producing and directing to working as crew. But this is not just a podcast about "making it," it's also about struggling with rejection, self-doubt and everything else that comes with pursuing a career in film. Follow along as we forge our own way through the industry and talk to guests who are also making it happen.
Episodes 238-299 are available at our patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/mmihpodcast
Latest episodes

Jul 8, 2025 • 58min
Kim Noonan - Getting Hired to Direct a Horror Feature!
This week we welcome director Kim Noonan on the show to talk about making his latest feature film Are You There?, how he got attached to the project and how Kim ended up having two features come out the same year! After that we play another round of THE GAME, enjoy!
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Jul 4, 2025 • 49min
Ren: The Girl with The Mark - BONUS Throwback Interview!
On this Thursday bonus episode we are going to play the interview from episode 470 from April 2024 with Ren: The Girl with The Mark Co Creators/Directors/Writers, Kate Madison and Christopher Dane and current showrunner DP and Writer Neil Oseman. I thought these guys were a perfect match for our interview with Sarha Jefferson Carter and Justin Carter because they both made a fantasy series on a similar budget. After that we play another round of You’re the expert, enjoy!
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Jun 30, 2025 • 1h 3min
Nina Conti and Shenoah Allen - Turning a Live Stage Show into a Feature Film!
This week we welcome Writer, director and star and producer/star couple Nina Conti and Shenoah Allen on the show to talk about making their first fiction feature, Sunlight which they made together based on a live show they did on stage together. After that we play another round of THE GAME, enjoy!
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Jun 26, 2025 • 51min
Emily Abt - BONUS Throwback Interview!
On this Thursday bonus episode we are going to play the interview from episode 424 from May 2023 with writer and director Emily Abt who talks about getting into Sundance with her first feature and making her second feature Thirsty, which is not streaming on all platforms! I thought this was a great time to re-release the episode now that the movie is out and ready to be shared with the world! After that we play another round of You’re the expert, enjoy!
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Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 13min
Sarah Jefferson Carter and Justin Carter - Making a Completely Independent TV Show!
This week we welcome Sarah Jefferson Carter and Justin Carter on the show to talk about creating their indie fantasy sci-fi show Queendom Come, how they financed the show and how they made it the way they did. After that we play another round of THE GAME, enjoy!
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Jun 20, 2025 • 56min
Kestrin Pantera - BONUS Throwback Interview!
On this Thursday bonus episode we are going to play the interview from episode 267 from June 2020 featuring writer director Kestrin Pantera! Alrik thought this was a good match for our episode with Hala Matar from Monday because Kestrin also talks about making her first feature. After that we play another round of You’re the expert, enjoy!
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Jun 16, 2025 • 1h 8min
Hala Matar - From a Trip to Italy to Making a First Feature Film!
This week we welcome writer director Hala (Hella) Matar on the show to talk about making her first feature film Electra in Italy. After that we play another round of THE GAME, enjoy!
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Jun 12, 2025 • 57min
Abby Horton and Ryan Dickie - BONUS Throwback Interview!
On this Thursday bonus episode we are going to play the interview from episode 443 from September 2023 featuring writer and director husband and wife team Abby Horton and Ryan Dickie talking about making their first feature together as a team. I thought it would be fun to pair it with Brian and David’s episode from Monday because they are also a married couple who came together to write and direct a feature as a team. After that we play another round of You’re the expert, enjoy!
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Jun 9, 2025 • 1h 14min
David Joseph Craig and Brain Crano - Directing a Dream Feature with Your Life Partner!
This week we welcome Writer and director power couple Brian Crano and David Joseph Craig on the show to talk about writing I Don’t Understand You, how they came up with the story, how they got it made and what it was like to write and direct the movie together . After that we play another round of THE GAME, enjoy!
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Jun 5, 2025 • 40min
Natalie Erika James - BONUS Throwback Interview!
On this Thursday bonus episode we are going to play the interview from episode 273 from July 2020 featuring writer and director Natalie Erika James. Alrik thought this was a good match for our episode with Julia Max from Monday because they both made supernatural horror films as their first features, both with substantial budgets. After that we play another round of You’re the expert, enjoy!
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