
DarkHorse Podcast
The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!
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May 22, 2021 • 1h 29min
#81: Permission to Think (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 81st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we discuss how it is that claims of knowledge are made, and how social norms overlay our ability to think: the sociology of epistemology. We discuss lab leak hypothesis, why intellectual credit matters, and why the press needs to do better. Then: get physically active for a better outcome if you get Covid. And: trans ideology comes to kickboxing, and also to taxonomy, with an ant named they. Then: a poem found in NW Portland. And finally: a pro bono ad for epoxy putty.Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_5BDTABYFKRJKZBT5GSQA DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/wteYNTlQdKA Mentioned in this episode: Heying 2021. What If We’re Wrong? Published this week in Areo: https://areomagazine.com/2021/05/19/what-if-were-wrong/ McNeil Jr 2021. How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Lab-Leak Theory. On Medium: https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lab-leak-theory-f4f88446b04d Frum, David. May 18, 2021. The Pro-Trump Culture War on American Scientists. In The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/chinese-lab-coronavirus-leak-origin-theory/618911/ 60 Minutes piece. May 16, 2021. UFOs regularly spotted in restricted U.S. airspace, report on the phenomena due next month: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-military-intelligence-60-minutes-2021-05-16/ Sallis et al 2021. Physical inactivity is associated with a higher risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes: a study in 48,440 adult patients. British journal of sports medicine. https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/early/2021/04/07/bjsports-2021-104080.full.pdf Rogers et al 2020. Behavioral change towards reduced intensity physical activity is disproportionately prevalent among adults with serious health issues or self-perception of high risk during the UK COVID-19 lockdown. Frontiers in public health, 8. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7554527/pdf/fpubh-08-575091.pdf Booher, D.B. and Hoenle, P.O., 2021. A new species group of Strumigenys (Hymenoptera, Formicidae) from Ecuador, with a description of its mandible morphology. ZooKeys, 1036, p.1. https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/62034/ Dubois, A., 2007. Genitives of species and subspecies nomina derived from personal names should not be emended. Zootaxa, 1550(1), pp.49-68. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alain-Dubois-2/publication/281131228_Genitives_of_species_and_subspecies_nomina_derived_from_personal_names_should_not_be_emended/links/561d2e6308aec7945a252bc5/Genitives-of-species-and-subspecies-nomina-derived-from-personal-names-should-not-be-emended.pdf Antwiki.org, Procryptocerus nalini https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Procryptocerus_nalini Support the show

May 15, 2021 • 1h 39min
#80: What Covid Reveals About our Leaders (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 80th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_5BDTABYFKRJKZBT5GSQA DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/N9ZXBsSkYLE Mentioned in this episode: Bloom et al 2021. Investigate the origins of COVID-19. Science 372(6543): 694. https://science.sciencemag.org/conten... Jacobsen, R. 2021. Top researchers are calling for a real investigation into the origin of covid-19. MIT Technology Review, May 13, 2021. https://www.technologyreview.com/2021... DarkHorseLive episode 61, in which we first discussed ivermectin at some length: https://youtu.be/KfbBvvPVFdw Saha, J.K. and Raihan, M.J., 2021. The binding mechanism of ivermectin and levosalbutamol with spike protein of SARS-CoV-2. Structural Chemistry, 1-8: https://link.springer.com/article/10.... Kaur, H., Shekhar, N., Sharma, S., Sarma, P., Prakash, A. and Medhi, B., 2021. Ivermectin as a potential drug for treatment of COVID-19: an in-sync review with clinical and computational attributes. Pharmacological Reports, 1-14: https://link.springer.com/article/10.... Hellwig, M.D. and Maia, A., 2021. A COVID-19 prophylaxis? Lower incidence associated with prophylactic administratioSupport the show

May 8, 2021 • 1h 41min
#79: #NotAllMice (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 79th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary In this 79th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we again discuss the research showing that SARS-CoV2’s spike protein is sufficient on its own to cause disease. The authors believe that this is good news with regard to the vaccines currently in circulation; they may be right. We discuss the paper, the authors’ clarification. Then: lab leak hypothesis continues to gain ground. And: Portland erupts in more violence. The Evergreen State College cannot manage to hire a new president—what are they doing wrong, and what does it suggest about the future of higher ed? Finally, robins and crows face-off. Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/... DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/MwcW6TB327w Mentioned in this episode: Lei et al 2021. SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2. Circulation Research 128(9): 1323–1326. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902 Salk Institute news release, modified since May 1: https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/ Blog post on Science Translational Medicine by Derek Lowe on Spike Protein Behavior: https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/04/spike-protein-behavior Video interview with Uri Manor, one of the authors on the Lei et al 2021 paper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uydsf51Lzv8 Wade, Nicholas. 2021. The origin of COVID: Did people oSupport the show

May 1, 2021 • 1h 31min
#78: The Good People Game (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 78th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/... DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/dF12Kvfl0Uo Mentioned in this episode: Joe Rogan’s original clip, with commentary by CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/media/joe-rogan-clarifies-vaccine-comments/index.html Fauci responds to Joe, April 28, 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QVPjioDvEc Joe Rogan clarifies his vaccine comments, April 29, 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PloZ-GB9tzA Washington Post joins the fray, piles on with “experts,” April 29, 2021:https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/28/joe-rogan-podcast-vaccine-coronavirus/ CDC chart on risk for COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths by age cohort: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html Risk estimator from The Economist, March 11, 2021:https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/covid-pandemic-mortality-risk-estimator “The novel Coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness” from the Salk Institute, April 30, 2021: https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/ Original research: Lei et al 2021. SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2. Circulation Research 128:1323–1326. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902 The Washington Post is concerned about ivermectin, April 8, 2021: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/08/ivermectin-covid-drug/Support the show

Apr 24, 2021 • 1h 30min
#77: How Facts are Made (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 77th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this 77th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we discuss this week’s verdict in the Chauvin trial; what is actually going on in Portland, and how local leadership is responding; and how journalism is faring. We discuss a new proposal for paid leave for employees; and reflect on Bret’s recent conversation with Geert Vanden Bossche, and the response by Facebook. At the top of the hour, Heather mentions the death of a friend. Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/... DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/kTwueOgxSiE Mentioned in this episode: Excerpt from the most recent press conference from Portland mayor, Ted Wheeler: https://twitter.com/pdxfrontline/stat... Bret’s article in Unherd on Portland (note that Bret did not sign off on the subtitle here, nor would he have): Support the show

Apr 23, 2021 • 1h 48min
DarkHorse Podcast with Geert Vanden Bossche & Bret Weinstein
Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people.Find Geert on his website: https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/Find Geert on Twitter: @GVDBossche--- Find Bret Weinstein on Twitter: @BretWeinstein, and on Patreon. Please subscribe to this channel for more long form content like this, and subscribe to the clips channel @DarkHorse Podcast Clips for short clips of all our podcasts. DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.Support the show

Apr 17, 2021 • 1h 48min
#76: Too Dumb For Fiction (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 76th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we discuss Portland going off the rails again. More riots and vandalism happened downtown, and we went to document some of it: the Apple store, the dumpster fires, the volunteers picking up trash, the companies proclaiming that we are “united by love” while (only) the white women in their displays are crossed out by activists. Meanwhile, the public schools debate changing names and mascots, and we are told that we need to register our cats. Then: a discussion of four numbers in the news this week. Three: shots now needed for the Pfizer vaccine. Ninety: the percentage of false positives from Covid tests in England. Thirteen: the proposed new number of Supreme Court Justices. 2.5 billion: the number of T. rexes who once roamed the Earth. Penultimately, we discuss lizards that aren’t lizards (but are in fact salamanders). And finally: footage from a coyote den that we (or rather, our dog) found near us, which had in it a mother and two kits. Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_5BDTABYFKRJKZBT5GSQA DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/a7wWmzmBw6I Mentioned in this episode: Rapid COVID testing in England returns positive results that are ~90% false:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/15/rapid-covid-testing-in-england-may-be-scaled-back-over-false-positives CNN’s original headline: How many T. rex were there? Billions, it turns outhttps://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/world/t-rex-billions-intl-scli-scn/index.html Original research estimating how many T. rex there were: Marshall et al 2021. Absolute abundance and preservation rate of Tyrannosaurus rex. Science 372(6539): 284-287. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6539/284 Support the show

Apr 10, 2021 • 1h 26min
#75: Stop Disrupting Childhood (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 75th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode we discuss privacy, and the amazing things that we (and you) can see with game cameras: beaver, river otters, nutria, coyotes. Then: should children be allowed to medically and surgically transition? One approach to understanding our answer is to consider type-I vs type-II errors in statistics. And: shall we drug children to get them to fit with modernity (specifically, a new ADHD drug)? What helps breed “persistence” in children? On a different topic: on the villainification of Jordan Peterson by Ta-Nehisi Coates. Finally: sunlight really is the best disinfectant (of SARS-CoV2). Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_5BDTABYFKRJKZBT5GSQA DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/TmjIv4qcLFE Mentioned in this episode: Heather’s pushback on the ACLU’s gender ideology: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1376688022117179395?s=20 Zaliznyak et al 2020. Age at first experience of gender dysphoria among transgender adults seeking gender-affirming surgery. JAMA network open, 3(3): e201236: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/article-abstract/2762788 Criteria for diagnosis of ADHD from the DSM-5: https://www.aafp.org/dam/AAFP/documents/patient_care/adhd_toolkit/adhd19-assessment-table1.pdf Announcement of FDA approval of new drug to treat ADHD: https://www.fox5ny.com/news/fda-approves-new-adhd-drug-for-children-the-first-in-more-than-a-decade Leonard et al 2021. Children Persist Less When Adults Take Over. Child Development. Volume, issue and pages still in process; doc is only easily available for the moment with university access. H/T to Lenore Skenazy (co-founder and president of the amazing Let Grow foundation) for making us aware of this: https://letgrow.org Sunlight Inactivates Coronavirus 8 Times Faster Than Predicted. We Need to Know Why: https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why Luzzatto-Fegiz et al 2021. UVB radiation alone may not explain sunlight inactivation of SARS-CoV-2. The Journal of Infectious Diseases: https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiab070/6129304 Support the show

Apr 5, 2021 • 1h 60min
DarkHorse Podcast with Brittany King & Bret Weinstein
Brittany Talissa King is an independent Journalist, Freelance Writer, and host of #AmericanShade with Brittany King on YouTube. Find Brittany on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQVlAwsrGCKLA-3pUudSRjQ Find Brittany on Twitter: @KingTalissa --- Find Bret Weinstein on Twitter: @BretWeinstein, and on Patreon. Please subscribe to this channel for more long form content like this, and subscribe to the clips channel @DarkHorse Podcast Clips for short clips of all our podcasts. DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Support the show

Apr 3, 2021 • 1h 30min
#74: Nothing to Ad (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)
In this 74th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. This episode marks the first episode in which we broadcast ads. After speaking two ads at the top of the show, we devote the rest of the episode to a critique of advertising, a history of ads in nature (bird plumage or song, bright coloration or patterning on a toxic frog or butterfly), and a discussion of how ads have been used to drive editorial content in some places, notably magazines aimed at women and girls. We then provide eight pro bono ads: products or things that we think are awesome (or not), and why we think so. This was fun; we hope you think so, too.Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_5BDTABYFKRJKZBT5GSQA DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/NYOpn7eDImE Mentioned in this episode: ExpressVPN: VPNs keep you and your information safe. Use this code—darkhorse—to get 3 months free on a year-long subscription at ExpressVPN. Go to: https://www.expressvpn.com/darkhorse OMAX CryoFreeze: Pain is necessary and adaptive, but sometimes it interferes with life. This CryoFreeze CBD Roll-On is effective at reducing pain. Go to: https://omaxhealth.com and use code DARKHORSE for 20% off Cryofreeze and all other products sitewide. Gloria Steinem’s 1990 essay, “Sex, Lies & Advertising” published in (by then ad-free) Ms. Magazine: http://www1.udel.edu/comm245/readings/advertising.pdf If you have a library of print books that you read and return to, and you don’t know about bookdarts, you should: https://www.bookdarts.com The next time you find yourself in the jungle, or just slogging through a wet forest, try Aigle boots: https://www.aigle.com/eu/en/made-in-france Beautiful pottery by Matthew Kelly: https://matthewkellypottery.com Delicious and effective teas, tinctures and more, with a lot of humor: http://giant-herbs.com Adjustable crescent wrench with vise lock: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Stanley-MaxGrip-10-in-Locking-Adjustable-Wrench-85-610/203713967Support the show