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In this podcast episode, the host, Stewart, is talking with Zach and Matthew, co-founders of Clay, a relationship management platform. The conversation covers various topics including: The Journey to Clay: Zach and Matthew discuss their journey of conceptualizing and developing Clay. They reveal the thought process that went into creating a product that could help manage relationships without reducing them to transactional entities. Exploration of Clay: They delve into the workings of Clay, its AI assistant, and how it helps users manage their relationships. Clay has the capability to remind users of their connections, keep them updated with their social interactions, and help maintain the quality of their relationships. Concept of Attention Economy: They talk about the notion of the attention economy and how it can be detrimental to our relationships. They also discuss how Clay can help users regain control over their attention. Relationship with Nature: Stewart discusses his personal experience with his move from San Francisco to the country, and the challenges and learning experiences that came with it. He prompts the others to share their thoughts on the relationship with nature, and how it influences our relationship with ourselves. Matthew relates this to the idea of self-discovery and the inherent need for human connection with nature. Adapting to Challenges: They discuss the challenges and "curveballs" of life, especially in the startup world, and how they adapt to them. Matthew highlights the importance of having a supportive co-founder and a solid team to weather the inevitable storms. Future Plans for Clay: Zach and Matthew hint at upcoming features in Clay, including AI advancements. They invite listeners to check out the beta preview of these features on their website. At the end of the conversation, Matthew emphasizes the importance of investing time in our relationships, not only in a professional context but also personally. He suggests that this investment offers a high return and could significantly improve one's quality of life.

Bart is the founding Guru at GuruScan | International Knowledge Management speaker | Makes Knowledge driven business decisions and helps enable the customers to do https://www.linkedin.com/in/bart-guruscan/ Guruscan website https://guruscan.nl/ What is knowledge management? Knowledge is a lot more than information Information is content Knowledge is explicit and implicit knowledge Knowledge Management strategy Shell Connecting people to people, Connecting people to content Community of practice Lessons learned, what did we do and how well did we do it? Forward-looking thing: how can we integrate learning and development? Learn about where we want to go This makes me excited to be a part of KM Skills that are really hard to make explicit Fingerspettein Riding a bike, talk to someone about riding a bike Keep on pedaling, look forward, and find your balance, these are all processes that can't be taught You can’t read how to ride a bike What percentage of knowledge for business is like riding a bike? Specific use cases; a lot of research 20% is explicit and 80% is actually stuff people are doing Then not ending up in the final 95% implicit in the particular case of tacit knowledge Is the role Thousands of people; how do you communicate with them Complex environment and things are changing in Solving complex problems is when you want to get people together Prehistoric groups There was cross-group and collaboration Strangers interacting 1-2 years now for 10-15 years of experience as specialist After a while, its interesting to hear how people have feelings about whether things are wrong Intuition says something is wrong, and then finds the thing that is wrong No textbook is going to tell you what is wrong Concept is called Dunbar number, robert dunbar, British anthropologist 150 people; the people with you can have a meaningful relationship High school friends are replaced with work friends Changes over time but the limit Social grooming, what their parents are doing, what are they doing If you want to expand you are not going to be FDR had 44,000 people in The level of leadership changes, and remote work As a CEO of a 20K person company Methods for Organizational network analysis Knowledge Map of the organization Connect people with very similar of knowledge. Find people to really like to exchange with An idea is network Bart is in Amsterdam Not totally remote Gitlab as an example Remote work as asynchronous Being able to work asynchronously in productive Large organizations Monday morning you have the standup Large organizations in tons of synchronous meetings Lockdowns the whole workspace Feeling productive vs not feeling productive Status report Alignment and updating people That's the big challenge The furthest in Async first Async needs to be changed If you can’t have that meeting, what would you do? Internal organization A lot of people who make money running the organization IIf you are up to 60 or 70 people because there is no overhead If you need to arrange something you need to Staff departments at 150 Institutional Staff departments Especially, growing the company as an incentive How do you work smarter, not harder? Our department In organizations, the hard thing is to make sure that you don’t reduce complexity, If you reduce the complexity Requisite variety, adapt to all the changes that are coming from the outside of the world Balance exploration and exploitation If you don’t exploit then you don’t the money Exploration is the future of the company How much money, time, effort and people? How much money should we invest in R&D? Insane amounts of money Every company should do in more exploration Changing processes is usually not considered R&D Changing your organization to better fit future Political aspect Produce 50 or 60% of all the semiconductors Flat screens LED lights have semiconductors European Union has different regulations Huge fabrication tension of where ASML TSMC The flow of money spent on the Governed by Moore laws The number of transistors on a square meter would double every year Fit the developments into the computer chips Pentium processors went faster than Moore’s laws How many people work in semiconductors? Ultraviolet lights Collaborations Semiconductor stuff, how to do the knowledge management? Work together with SAIS, German lens company SAIS maybe made an investment in that Seimer integrating with the equiptment Global recruiment that they do Optical engineering Thats the most important thing With customers and suppliers Crash in 2009 and 2020 Apple, Intel, and Samsung Flagship model The chain is so fragile

Matt Bunday works in crypto. He loves to rock climb, martial arts, and think about underground psychedelic therapy   What is the biggest problem you’ve faced with knowledge management at your companies? Slack  Dropped balls in communication LLMs might be the response Why do you think slack spread so fast even though its not the best product? It was a step up from email IRC was a component More friendly for non-engineering What do you think about the complexity of slack? Twist is an alternative Why is information architecture such a challenge? How do LLMs fit into this? What would happen if slack created a LLM or plugged one in? Slack workspace plug in What is a retrieval plug in? Universal adapter for any type of data Who are the incumbents in the slack knowledge management space? Guru startup What is the difference between information management and knowledge management? Knowledge management is a higher level synthesis Information management is siloing related types of information Data types  Group related to information around people What are your thoughts on the membrane? Siloes Privacy is where LLMs can be very innovative If we were to share a LLM We can both specify a privacy policy to the LLM and it will follow it LLMs can intuit the privacy public distinction Are you using LLMs to code for you? Copilot Issues with difficulty to prompt it correctly You had to write comments to prompt it Inline suggestions were not good Is it better now? Haven’t noticed a dramatic improvement Hard to prompt it to code in certain styles now GPT 4 is way better for a starting off point for projects Helpful for conversion processes What are the things that GPT4 has not been helpful for you? You have to chunk it What about building systems with GPT4? Code completion cool called tap9 Train the model against your local code What are some other things about KM that we can use tools for? Shared LLM for the family Surface serendipity between users If facebook were to do this One person says they are selling a couch One person is buying one LLM connects them At what point do we merge with the machines? Sufficiently high bandwidth Translation Are we already cyborgs? It began with wearing shoes Horselike Where do you fit in the excitement vs fear when it comes to AI? What parts of knowledge work will get automated? What are we losing? What is your take on bodywork? 10% investment Martial arts practices, he gets beat up  Ninjiutsu Special forces for ninjas Healing and striking points on the body are the same Balance between healing/killing, if you know how to heal Unbroken transmission since 1400 What is the importance 

  Zohar Atkins He is a rabbi, philosopher, blogger and podcaster. His podcast is called Meditations With Zohar Show Notes Who is your favorite philosopher? What is non-aggressive socratic questioning? Why do you like Heidegger? How was he Nazi-ism How do you relate to the history of philosophy? How do you walk the line between tradition and being a revolutionary? What was your first experience learning for yourself instead of learning top-down? What does it feel like to have a hunger for learning? What happens when we decide we are going to learn everything and then run into the block of only having so much time? How do you relate to patience when confronting the weird language of philosophy? How do you define good communication? What is the value of incomprehensibility? How important is banging your head on the wall? Who is a philosopher that you think is a fraud? Was Jesus a philosopher? Do philosophers build truth structures? What is hagiography? What is your philosophy of technology? How is Socrates exceptional? Where do philosophy and religion meet? What happened to the public intellectual? Was Wittgenstein religious?  How was Wittgenstein obsessed with language? What is your take on rationalism? What about scientism? What is the job of philosophy? Why are most people not interested in philosophy? Who is Leo Strauss? Philosophy is opposition to the state What happens when the state get too powerful and the philosophy gets crowded out? What is the dominant philosophy of the US in the 20th century? Pragmatism What was the difference between philosophy and science for ancient philosophers? How is philosophy a technology? How is UX a strain of phenomenology? What is the feedback cycle between technology and philosophy? What is the problem of induction? Aristotlean is ok with doing case studies Deductionism leads to cancelling all the case studies What defines the modern essence of technology? What happens when humans commoditize themselves? Without technology why can’t most understand leisure? How does Science doesn’t think? How did the original science people become more humble about the origins of science? How does achievement distract from the question of meaning? Why don’t you think Scientism is a big deal? How is Scientism is bad for religion? What is your take on new age occult stuff? Irrationalism sees with a squint to what rationalism is blind How can we become open to the strangeness of the universe? How can we be epistemologically humble?  

AJ is a software engineer interested in Urbit and data composability.  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ajlamarc https://www.ajlamarc.com/ Keep an eye out on Holium, and making it easier to code in Javascript for Urbit Notes What is data composability? Multiple applications sharing data and make the interfaces work together OpenAIs that both Twitter and Facebook had and then were shut down Data is the main product that these applications have You can separate the data and the code Personal AI How did we get to such a fragmented application landscape? Legacy internet vs New Internet? What is AJ working on? TomeDB Javascript package Associated gall agent NoSQL database The front end side is the interesting part What are gall agents? Standardized backend of Urbit Rules for moving data between different servers and accounts What are you looking for in a backend? Why are you reinventing the wheel when building a new urbit backend? What is the promise of urbit? What is the main draw of urbit? What does it mean to be permissionless? Urbit brings the best out of the past How much data is stored when you host your urbit on the cloud vs your own database? What are the technical limitations that an Uribit can store? 4-8 GBs can be stored and its stored in RAM How long until we have video streaming on Urbit? What is your take on where AI and Urbit mingle? How do you have an AI work for you rather than a big corporation? Urbit is creating a virtual world where you get only what you want and little of what you want The success of Urbit is the apple OS with the next generation of software How do you get the cost down? How do you run an urbit inside an urbit? What is the main difficulty of scale for computing on the cloud? If a million people join urbit tomorrow would it break? What is the biggest scale that Urbit has seen? 1-2K people What is the new narrative of Urbit? How do you use urbit as a really simple use case that urbit can solve to start getting urbit adoption? How do you store data and transfer it between two people in a secure way? Urbit as an infrastructure that can help build infrastructure There has to be the normal infrastructure that we are used to in terms of databases and networking  Urbit is mostly a backend technology Urbit could eventually have HOON native AI Did you use crypto to pay for anything in El Salvador? What did you learn at the Volcano Summit in El Savlador? Logan’s talk on Zorp using Knock  

Dave Snowden is the Chief Scientific Officer of Cynefin. Head of Knowledge Management for 30 years. Author of Cynefin - Weaving Sense-Making into the Fabric of Our World (https://tinyurl.com/4958x362)   When did knowledge management start in the 90s? The ultimate disciplinary field What is intellectual capital? Intellectual property What is the anarcha book? Knowledge management is information management What is relevant knowledge? What is messy coherence? What is exaptive innovation? How do you add value to organizations? Focus What is the difference between teleological idealism and realism? What is the KM process? Find out what is keeping middle management awake at night Do not want to be a CEO pet project How do you map what a company already knows? How do you map current knowledge from the things that keep people awake at night? Where are we on the cycle now? At the early stage of the hype cycle What is complexity theory? How do you map the unknown unknowns of a company? How do you create resiliency within an organization? How do you build informal networks across the organizations? European field guide on complexity management Does getting involved with tactics take away from strategy? Trying to make the cost of virtue greater than the cost of sin? How has knowledge management changed with Covid and remote work? How do you replicate pheromones in a remote environment? What are hexis? How does knowledge transfer work? How do you make decisions that keep options open? How do you create processes that stop ambiguity? Why are stories of linear processes greatly exaggerated? How do you deal with too much information? Focus on connecting people and storing information Entangled trios with task from different groups Run that every three months Secret is not to take an information centric approached Knowledge is only ever volunteered, not conscripted We always know more than we can say and we can always say more than we can write down What is necessary ambiguity? What is the role of narrative when it connects tacit to explicit information? Narrative asks you questions that make you think differently Lessons learning rather than lessons learned 90% of knowledge is walking out the door The danger of machine learning is dumbing down how we know things THE RIGHT SOURCE DATA IS THE KEY Machine learning is inductive  Feed ML better training data How did you get the role at IBM at knowledge management? Institute for knowledge management at IBM IBM center for complexity studies  How do you measure knowledge management? outcome/ouput measures Fine with predictable systems Outcomes produce a perverse incentive Vector measure for intensity of effort How do you structure KPIs? What are the power dynamics of exchange? Fear of abuse is the main reason people seek knowledge in organizations Art comes before words before human language Semiotics is symbols and signs UK is the most mapped country in the world We need renaissance instead of an enlightenment What is catholic with a small c?

Adam is the  VP of engineering at Invisible Technologies and active angel investment If you have specific questions, send them on to Adam@invisible.co   How do you organize information and data in order to spend most of your time on high-level work? How do you manage people who report to you to also do the same? What does knowledge management mean to you? What are the applications that will leverage LLMs? What is an intranet? Transition from card catalog to Google How do you take structured things and make them unstructured? Can LLMs do unstructured data? What is tabular data? Who is going to shine when it comes to leverage LLMs? How do LLMs hallucinate? How can we prevent LLMs from hallucinating? What would happen to a law firm that has an LLM that hallucinates a contract? What happens when NYC opened up all its APIs? What is data availability? Will LLMs have big moats? (13 minutes in might be when we get too close to OpenAI) What will happen with LLama from Meta? What has been overhyped in terms of LLMs? Have you started to use Copilot in your own programming? Reference tool rather than programming aid LLM code has a higher security risk What is your take on AI ethics? How do you deal with collective commons type of stuff? How does bias training come into play? How do we think about the implicit biases that the models have been trained on? How does technology help us to understand ourselves? How is technology an amplification of human ability? What is the frustration of knowledge management for you? Bot at Facebook that goes through and warns people when something needs to be updated Finding something and its wrong How do we make sure that information stays updated and relevant What is the curse of knowledge? Onboarding is testing the system How should we think about knowledge leakage? Does Notion have an API? Keep metrics on how much people are writing What were some ways that Facebook excelled at knowledge management? Investment in search tools Code documentation Chat bot messages scale of 1-10 how do you feel   What are the barriers that we have at invisible to implementing great search? What is the issue with implicit knowledge at Invisible? What is status hero? 8 or 9 engineering teams at invisible When there is high trust all processes work and when there is low trust no processes work What is the biggest problem going to be for me as knowledge management guy? How can we bring spaced repetition software into Invisible?  

Kirill Zubovsky Prompt Engineer and CEO of @ SmartyNames.com  What is Smartynames.com? Does Godaddy front-run domain names by buying them as soon as you search for them? They are 12 billion $ company What have you learned about Machine Learning from doing this? Did you have to learn a lot to develop on openai’s algorithm? How do you add uncertainty to your AI prompts? Why do people like to hack individual AI systems instead of hacking the big ones? What are the companies that will start to build in-house models? What is the difference between consumer and enterprise AI? What is the AI that has been used for airplane design for over 20 years now? Are we headed for utopia and dystopia? What is your take on Silicon Valley Bank? What is moral hazard and how does it play with what is going on SVB? What did Hayek say about all this? What will AI do to the decentralization of capitalism?  

Pablo Peniche does front-end engineering, marketing, and design. Wears many hats at Viennahypertext Twitter: https://twitter.com/PabloPeniche https://vienna.earth/ What do Mexicans think about Central Americans? What is the relationship between urbit and vienna hypertext? What is vienna hypertext? An information network Create different canvases with blocks Why is vienna hypertext hard to build on urbit? Does engineering advance science or does science advance engineering? What is the relationship between science and engineering? What is the difference between hard sciences and soft sciences? How do you build a tool for the humanities? What effect will that have on engineering and science? What is the anti-anti-anti-anti liberalism speech from Peter Theil? https://youtu.be/fQ4rc7npiXQ What are the false idols of Scientism? What is the relationship between millenarianism and scientism cults? Why do human beings fall under homo religious rather than homo sapiens the thinking primate? Lets do space travel! Why is Elon Musk right and why is he wrong? Why should the pope declare a space crusade? What is the kardashev scale? type 1 is all the resources of one planet type 2 is another the sun type 3 is multiple stars Why do atheists believe that collecting books is the way to western enlightenment? How did Charlemagne invent the book with his codexes? How are all historians revisionists? If the news fake, imagine history? Lets talk about climate change What do the models measure? Physics of fluids Movements in the atmosphere and the oceans Can’t get quality of soil or animals dying or matter outside of that Topsoil captures carbon Can you be pro-environment and pro-immigration at the same time in terms of top-soil? Can you look at the global scale and actually change anything meaningful? How do you deal with unknown unknowns? Can computers ever discover what we don't know we don't know? How is the stock market an example of the way things are getting done? All models are incorrect but some are useful sometimes Are humans due for another ice age? Who is Freeman Dyson? What is a dyson sphere? What is the relationship between Feynmen and Freeman? Why do you specifically have the ability to question heretical answers? How is the internet the most powerful tool that humans have ever created? How is contrarianism the secular antidote to the problem knowledge? How did René Gerard decide that Christianity is the way to solve the problem of unknown unknowns and mimetic rivalry? What did Gerard say about scapegoating? How did Gerard meme himself into being Christian? Why you shouldn’t fight on the minutiae of mimetic rivalry? How do you measure carbon in the topsoil? How can we build personal biological computers? Who is John von Neumann? How did he build a machine for war? How did Liberia end up in such a different place from the US even though they have almost the same constitution?

Ivan Vendrov is AI researcher, ML engineer interested in speculation of future systems Twitter: https://twitter.com/IvanVendrov Website: https://www.vendrov.ai/ Questions discussed or for further discussions What do you think is the great X-risks humans face today? What are some weaknesses in terms of technology in general? How do you steer technology to make sure it's not developing in ways that are harmful? What is your take on spirituality? What is the intersection between the Russian Orthodox religion and meditation? What do Russian orthodox people do for lent? Go vegan for the entire month emphasis on spirituality What happened to the soviet union and orthodox Christianity? What is the word “mir”? What is the difference between a time of troubles and a dark age? Were the dark ages really dark? What is the relationship between centralization and golden ages? Who are the cypher phunks? What are heterogenous networks? What is cyborgism? What is your take on rationalism? superintelligence At its best, its a community that has the best truth orientation Where do rationalism and dogma meet? What is post-rationalism? Can you be dogmatic and rationalist at the same time? Who were the original rationalists? What is bayesian reasoning? How can you establish all the events that could happen? Naive bayesian reasoning What does rationalism say about trusting others? What are the other sources of truth for rationalists? How do you convert or create knowledge? The book “The social history of truth” Truth or knowledge depends on a bedrock of trust and punishes liars In 18th century only gentlemen could speak truth because they had “F-U” money Why does knowledge follow a cyclical pattern of openness and dogma and how do they interact? Can a bureaucracy last longer than 300 years old? Can knowledge paradigms last long? Will technology allow us to establish non-bureaucratic systems that can stay flexible? Is cultural knowledge dying? How do you preserve cultural knowledge? How do you preserve knowledge that is implicit and hard to make explicit?