The Power Of Zero Show

The idea behind today’s episode comes from a conversation David had with someone at a recent event he spoke at. He praised the LIRP as the “perfect Swiss Army knife-type of investment,” and couldn’t understand why more people didn’t make it their only investment tool. David isn’t a fan of conversations that position the LIRP as a “Holy Grail” of financial planning. David shares examples of questions and conversations of the arguments that may be made by someone who’s a big believer in the LIRP in these terms. David discusses potential scenarios and conversations you may find yourself having. The Power of Zero strategy calls for multiple streams of tax-free income, none of which show up on the IRS’ radar but all of which contribute to you being in the 0% tax bracket. There are four streams of tax income: the Roth IRA, the Roth 401k, the Roth conversion, and the RMD that’s up to standard deduction limits out of your IRA.  David discusses how they’re being invested in, and how some licensed life insurance agents persuade people against investing in the stock market. As David illustrates, there are some shortcomings in the approach similar to the event attendee he was chatting with, as the approach doesn’t appreciate the broader role that the stock market plays, in a balanced approach to tax-free retirement planning. The LIRP, especially that in the form of a puppy and in the form of the IUL Index Universal, can generate up to 5-7% annual rate of return. “The LIRP is not designed to be the primary source of retirement”, says David. “Savings are designed to be a supplemental source of retirement savings”. David goes over the type of life insurance agents you want to stay away from, and why you may want to embrace a stock market-type approach to investing. When it comes to the LIRP coming into play, the focus should be on an approach that involves both stock market and LIRP – as they both play an indispensable role in a comprehensive, and well-balanced, path to retirement planning.   Mentioned in this episode: David’s books: Power of Zero, Look Before Your LIRP, The Volatility Shield, Tax-Free Income for Life and The Infinity Code DavidMcKnight.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter  @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube

Today’s episode focuses on the difference between your effective and marginal tax rate and which one is relevant in different financial planning contexts. For David, the American tax system works exactly like a graduated cylinder: your money flows in and it goes all the way down to the bottom. Some of it gets taxed at 10%, some at 12, 24, 32, 35 or 37% – even Bill Gates briefly has some of his earned tax income tax at 10% before it goes all the way to 37%. David explains that the marginal tax rate is the rate at which you pay tax on the last dollar in your tax cylinder, while effective tax rate is your tax as a percentage of your table income. As a “rule of thumb”, remember that your effective tax rate is always lower than your marginal tax rate. David shares that the single greatest decision on whether to undertake a Roth conversion is whether your tax rate will be higher now or in the future. He discusses a scenario in which you should use your marginal tax rate, and not your effective tax rate. Evaluating the benefits of certain deductions and calculating short-term capital gains are two additional scenarios in which you should use marginal tax rate. As a general rule, David recommends remembering that the higher your federal marginal tax rate, the more it makes sense to invest in a Roth IRA instead of in a taxable investment or brokerage account. ‘Want to calculate what your effective tax rate is? Take your marginal tax rate and subtract 7,’ says David. When it comes to mistakes, a common one people make is on deciding between the effective and the marginal rate – and this usually happens with a Roth conversion.   Mentioned in this episode: David’s books: Power of Zero, Look Before Your LIRP, The Volatility Shield, Tax-Free Income for Life and The Infinity Code DavidMcKnight.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter  @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube

David explains how, normally, we think of the sequence of return risk as the risk associated with the order in which you experience investment returns in your stock market portfolio in retirement. There are a couple of different ways you can safeguard yourself against sequence of return risk.  The first one is to allocate money to an annuity that provides for your income during those early years of retirement so that you aren’t forced to take money out of the stock market. The second option is to build up cash value as long as you start with enough time before you retire. You can build up cash value inside your LIRP, and you can use that to pay for lifestyle expenses during the down years in the first 10 years of retirement. Lastly, you can shift money out of your stock market portfolio into what David refers to as time-segmented portfolios – short-term debt instruments designed to mature when you need the money. Segmented portfolios are a safe and productive way to mitigate sequence of return risk in the first 10 years of retirement. In Power of Zero, David describes 3 basic types of LIRP: the growth in your cash account being linked to investment bonds in the insurance companies of the general portfolio, the Interest Rate Sensitive Universal Life, and the so-called Variable Universal Life (VUL). For those of you who have VUL, it isn’t necessarily time to panic, says Nelson.   Mentioned in this episode: David’s books: Power of Zero, Look Before Your LIRP, The Volatility Shield, Tax-Free Income for Life and The Infinity Code DavidMcKnight.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter  @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube

There are dozens of contexts in which life insurance gets used, but 95% of the time, and from a Power of Zero planning standpoint, it gets used in two different ways. David explains how having a certain amount in your taxable bucket may sound great because it’s liquid and you can access it, but by taking the inefficiencies in the taxable bucket, you amortize them out over the balance of your lifetime – and this may end up costing you hundreds and thousands of dollars. There are different ways you can skinny down your taxable bucket. The first one is utilizing your least valuable asset – your taxable bucket – and use that to pay for your lifestyle. Maximizing your 401k or, even better, your Roth 401k at work is a second way to skinny down your taxable bucket. The third way is to simply contribute to the Roth IRA. David suggests never letting a year go by where you don’t contribute to the Roth IRA. The fourth way to skinny down a bloated taxable bucket, on the other hand, is by using those dollars to pay for the taxes on your Roth conversion. As David notes, if you’re younger than 59 and a half, the only way to do a Roth conversion is if you have money sitting in your taxable bucket that you can earmark for the tax on that Roth conversion. And in case you try to have the IRS withholding tax from your Roth conversion when you’re younger than 59 and a half, you’ll get a 10% penalty even though you may be taking that money out and giving it back to the IRS in the form of taxes.  If you’re younger than 59 and a half, you can have taxes withheld directly from the Roth conversion itself, even though David doesn’t recommend doing it. The last way you can spend down on a taxable bucket that has a balance that’s far too high is by way of the LIRP.  David explains that the LIRP is not designed to compete with your stock market investments, rather to serve as a bond replacement. Reaching into your investment portfolio, ‘pulling out the bonds’ and replacing them with the LIRP will get you a greater return, lower risk, and a lower standard deviation. It’s just a more effective way to grow your money as a bond replacement. David sees growing your money between 5 and 7% without taking any more risk than what you’re taking in your savings account as a safe and productive way to grow at least a portion of your retirement savings. David goes over how the LIRP can be much more efficient than simply growing dollars in the tax-free bucket.

David discusses how Mitt Romney is at the forefront of trying to save Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, solve the national debt problem, all while simultaneously trying to save the country. In a recent interview with former Power of Zero Show guest Maya MacGuineas, Mitt Romney discusses something that should resonate with you if you care about national debt and the future of the country. David believes that if Romney were to get through the Trust Act he has proposed, he could very well save the Republic. And he appreciates the fact that while some may avoid saying things that could get them voted out of office, Romney isn’t afraid to speak his mind – something that David sees as a sign of integrity. In his interview with MacGuineas, Senator Romney talks about the frightening issue of the additional debt and the already existing debt, and points to the fact that over $400 billion was spent on the interest alone in 2021. David sees raising interest rates as the only way to combat inflation. Argentina, which has its inflation at 50%, recently raised their interest rates 250 basis points, from 40 to 42.5. For Senator Romney, at some point, the U.S. is going to be spending more on the interest than they are on their military (currently $700 billion). He isn’t sure as to how you can be the leader of the free world if you’re having to pay hundreds of billions of dollars in interest and can’t even keep up with your military, education, support your health care system, and so forth. David Walker, author of America in 2040: Still a Superpower? A Pathway to Success, shared a similar feeling on the Power of Zero Show about a year ago – saying that a country can’t remain a superpower for long if it can’t get a handle on its finances. In the interview with Maya MacGuineas, Mitt Romney also touched upon the importance of taking action before trusts such as Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid run out of money. His words seem to indicate that dramatically cutting these programs for baby boomers isn’t really in the cards, which leaves higher tax rates as the solution. An additional point Senator Romney made during his interview with MacGuineas is the fact that continuing to add debt at a time like this is threatening our future, as well as the future of our kinds and grandkids. Seniors need to be protected with Medicare and Social Security, as well as Medicaid and keep America strong. As history of great civilizations has taught us, a characteristic of their failures is the beginning of massive spending that was greater than the money that was taken in. For David McKnight, these possible solutions might be too little, too late, but he still admires Romney’s willingness to discuss such a polarizing issue. In the interview, Senator Romney shares what he considers a possible solution to the issue at hand. And that is dividing the different trust funds and establishing a bicameral and bipartisan Rescue Committee of sorts for each one. This may not solve all four trust fund deficits but if a solution is found for any of them, and if it can bring balance and long-term solvency, it would create the impetus needed to take on the effort even further – and potentially solve all of them. David likes the fact that Romney brings Americans up by staying on the country’s current fiscal path. Nobody would like for the U.S. to go bankrupt but people would like it even less when debt gets so large that the costs of service in it consumes the entire federal budget, and the benefits of the various programs would get cut dramatically. Baby boomers are the single largest voting block of the nation and they won’t risk losing their Social Security, and Medicare benefits, as nobody wants to alienate that particular block of voters. However, it’s going to be generation X and millennials who are going to pay the price – with Social Security age potentially being moved out to 72 or 75. Romney doesn’t believe that most Americans realize that talks about balancing the budget are only matters related to one-third of the budget. David is encouraged by Senator Romney taking the problem head on, and identifying it as the foremost problem. He sees it as the type of leadership that David Walker called for in his most recent book. According to David, for people interested in adopting the Power of Zero approach to retirement, this means taking advantage of historically low tax rates while they’re allowed every year.     Mentioned in this episode: Interview between Maya MacGuineas and Mitt Romney

Mark Byelich doesn’t know when taxes are ever going to be lower than they are right now. David sees Medicare, not Social Security, as the main issue because Medicare is five times more expensive and it’s what’s really going to be driving debt over time.  David thinks that Social Security can easily be fixed by moving the age of retirement or by adding means testing like it happens in other countries. In his opinion, the challenge is how to renegotiate Medicare. It’s what is increasing by 6% each year, on average. This, without taking into consideration that there are 10,000 baby boomers who are exiting the workforce. Mark confirms a question that was asked; the amount you can put in a Roth IRA annually, in 2022, is going to be limited. David believes that the direction capital gains are heading toward depends on who’s in office. If you have Democrats at the Presidency, they’re most certainly trying to raise them. Republicans tend to think that high capital gains affect the growth of the economy. If one leaves politics aside and looks at the math of it all, capital gains are going to have to rise precipitously – along with individual tax rates – or the U.S. is going to go broke as a country. David is a fan of extending the Roth IRA conversion period beyond 2026. In replying to a question that was asked, he discusses how he would prefer paying the 22-24% bracket up until 2026 rather than preventively paying the 32% bracket. He thinks that there is going to be a “perfect storm” in 2030; demographic, debt, and unfunded obligations – so you want to get things in order before then. There are a couple of things that have hit a nerve with David; bouncing into the 32% tax bracket and people wincing over IRMA.  There’s a trade-off, though; one can pay an increased IRMA in the short term to spare IRAs and Social Security from higher taxation over the long-term. If a person can get to 0% tax bracket in retirement by shifting most of their assets to tax-free, they would put themselves in a position where they wouldn’t have to pay IRMA anymore, they wouldn’t have to pay Social Security taxes anymore, and they would shield themselves from the impact of high tax rates down the road.  David provides an overview of his books Power of Zero, Look Before Your LIRP, The Volatility Shield, Tax-Free Income for Life, and his upcoming one, the 75,000 word-long, The Infinity Code. David shares what is the greatest risk according to retirees; running out of money before you run out of life.

Normally, it takes a year to add $1 trillion to the national debt. With Covid-19, we have added $6 trillion to the debt. Something that usually happens in 6 years took place in 3 months. David believes that instead of cutting the various programs, the government is going to raise more taxes. Mark discusses main turning points of his career: being part of Ed Slott’s mastermind group since 2011, seeing one of David’s presentations, and getting a copy of The Power of Zero at a conference in San Diego back in 2015. Some of the studies Mark Byelich has done show that the average middle-class American will be in the 40 to 45% effective tax rate – within the next 10 years. David talks about the fact that some believe that rich people don’t have the money for all that the government is offering. David answers a question related to what people should be doing. David wouldn’t tell people ‘Ok, we only have 4 years, now I’m going to bump up into the 32%.’ David suggests people take advantage of these historically low taxes but don’t succumb to the temptation to bump up into 32%. David discusses the fact that if Republicans were to get control of everything in 2024, they could extend the Trump tax cuts for another 8 years.  For David, one of the tools they have to fight inflation is to raise interest rates. The problem is that the reason why the country is able to sustain this debt for a long period of time, is because the country has had historically low interest rates for so long. David shares something in the Constitution that says that the Federal Government is required to pay – simple work pensions, interest on the national debt, etc. Mark talks about the one item that’s currently concerning him when it comes to the health of financial plans, and investing.

In a previous episode of the Power of Zero Show, David discussed the importance of having a guaranteed 0% loan provision in your LIRP. Beware: even if an insurance company has a guaranteed 0% loan provision, there's still another way that they can get you. There are two ways in which they can configure these loans: they can either charge you interest in advance or they can charge you interest in arrears. In the case of interest charged in advance, the insurance company charges you the interest rate at the beginning of the year in which you request a loan. If they were charging you 3% on a $100,000 loan, you would owe them $3000 at the beginning of the year. This means that since you need to pay out the interest at the beginning of the year – instead of at the end of the year – you lose out on the interest that money could have earned you had you been able to keep it inside your growth account and compounded it over the course of a year. With interest charged in arrears, on the other hand, you get charged the interest at the end of the year. This means the situation is very different, as you will have on hand the interest that they credited to your loan collateral account – and it pays for the cost of that loan. David shares that there’s an insurance company out there that does charge interest in advance but goes about it differently. They credit your loan collateral account at an interest rate that’s greater than the amount they charge you in advance – to compensate for the opportunity costs you lost out over the course of a year. In case you have a LIRP and would like to know whether your insurance company has interest in advance or arrears and what implications that might have, David recommends heading over to DavidMcKnight.com. You’ll be connected to an elite member of the POZ advisory group.  The Index Universal Life is the policy David prefers and recommends. The insurance company doesn’t treat the premium the way a normal investment would get treated. There’s a problem you may face, the problem of opportunity costs. As David explains, ”if I give you a dollar that I didn't really need to give you, not only do I lose that dollar, but I lose what that dollar could've earned for me, had I been able to keep it and invest it over the balance of my life.”  According to David, the ideal scenario is working with a company that charges interests in arrears, offers a guaranteed 0% loan, and sweeps your money out of that on a daily or weekly basis.

Today’s episode focuses on outlining the basic differences between long-term capital gains and ordinary income taxes, and showing how they interact with each other from a taxation perspective. The idea for the topic actually came from a question one of David’s POZ advisors had received ahead of a recent webinar David hosted. Long-term capital gains typically get added to your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI), which is important, because your AGI determines whether you can contribute to Roth IRAs, or when you get phased out of certain deductions.  Despite this, it's important to keep in mind that long-term capital gains get taxed in a completely different tax cylinder when compared to ordinary income. Long-term capital gains are completely different from short-term capital gains, in that they have their own tax cylinder that includes only three tax rates: 0, 15, and 20. The rate at which long-term capital gains get taxed depends on what your ordinary income tax rate is in a particular year.  As David explains, it’s important to remember that the amount of ordinary income you have – the actual amount of net taxable income – informs the taxes you pay on your long-term capital gains. For David, once you understand the difference between the two taxes, there are several interesting strategies you can implement. It’s paramount to remember that ordinary income on the Roth conversion gets taxed first, while the long-term capital gains calculation takes place after that.

David’s upcoming book, The Infinity Code, is a novel that talks about important financial concepts and themes, and that will keep you on the edge of your seat through the entirety of the read. The book will be available on Amazon and other stores soon. In David’s opinion, starting a LIRP is a bit like getting married, so it’s important to be meticulous in your research. When it comes to LIRPs, the IRS allows you to take a loan – the way these loans work is that instead of taking a loan from your cash value itself, you’re taking it from a life insurance company. A zero cost loan, also known as a wash loan, is when, for example, you were charged 3% by the life insurance company. In order to make it an arms’ length transaction, the amount they charge you and the sum they credit you is always the same. David warns against going for loans that don’t have a guaranteed 0%. In an ideal-case scenario, you’d have tax-free and cost-free distributions. One of the issues that may raise has to do with the fact that for the IRS, if a person doesn’t have at least $1 in their cash value when they die, then all of the tax-free loans they got along the way need to have their taxes paid back, all in the same year.  David strongly believes that 0% spread loans are one of the stipulations that you must insist upon, when it comes to a LIRP. The cash value of a life insurance company might sound great, but it really is inconsequential when compared to what David sees as the most important provision: your loan provision. If you decide not to opt for a 0% spread that’s guaranteed, then you run into the risk of having life insurance companies adjusting that in order to hit their quarterly forecast. Hence, it’s paramount that you ask for a guaranteed 0% loan. For David, a good loan provision charges no net interest to the client, and it’s also worded in a clear and unambiguous way. A band loan provision, on the other hand, not only has net interest, but it’s also worded using nebulous terms, and has convenient escape clauses (convenient for the life insurance company, that is). David isn’t convinced that most of the financial services industry understands the implications of these types of loans. Therefore, he recommends that, before you go down the road with a financial advisor talking about an LIRP, you insist upfront that they tell you all of the details of the loan provision of that particular contract. You should be familiar with your loan provisions because, otherwise, they will come back to bite you. The loan interest will accumulate, it will compound over time, and it will force you to go bankrupt years in advance than when you ever thought possible.