

The Tim & April Show
The New Evangelicals
Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
Episodes
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Jun 9, 2025 • 1h 13min
23. The Real Housewives of Christian Nationalism
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In today's episode, Tim and April engage in a deep dive discussion with Dr. Beth Allison Barr about the complexities of Christian nationalism and the role of the pastor's wife. They explore how the expectations placed on pastor's wives reflect broader cultural norms and the historical context of these roles. The conversation also touches on the cognitive dissonance experienced by women in these positions and the implications for future generations. church.
Beth's Website | Bethallisonbarr.com
Beth's Substack | Marginalia with Beth Allison Barr
Highlights
01:10 Understanding Christian Nationalism
10:01 Cultural Expectations and Sacrifice
21:05 Cognitive Dissonance in Gender Roles
32:22 Hope for Future Generations
44:21 Power Dynamics in Evangelicalism
54:44 The Future of the Southern Baptist Convention
01:03:17 Navigating Political and Theological Landscapes
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 6, 2025 • 1h 51min
22. Trump’s Bad Bill, AI Becomes Self-Aware, & Christian Stars Exposed
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In today's Tim and April episode, they celebrate Pride Month while discussing the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. They delve into the controversial Big Bad Beautiful Bill, which primarily benefits the wealthy at the expense of the middle and lower classes.
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Chapters
07:38 The Big Bad Beautiful Bill: An Overview
26:51 The Implications of Vouchers on Society
40:05 Understanding the Christian Perspective on Wealth
49:54 Marjorie Taylor Greene's Controversial Statements
01:10:54 The Future of AI and Its Ethical Concerns
01:28:23 Allegations Against Michael Tate
01:36:17 AI in Media and Public Perception
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 10min
21. Scandals of Christian Nationalism: The Jerry Falwell Jr Story
Dive into the intriguing life of Jerry Falwell Jr., shaped by his father's powerful legacy. Discover how his endorsement of Trump marked a game-changing moment for evangelical politics, amidst shocking personal scandals. The podcast explores the complex relationship between faith and political integrity, highlighting the challenges of accountability in Christian nationalism. Unravel the intertwining narratives of scandals and the intricate dynamics between the Falwell family and American culture in a thought-provoking exploration.

May 30, 2025 • 1h 29min
20. Targeted by Christian Nationalism: The LGBTQ+ Culture War
In this special episode, April's Spouse, Beecher joins April to discuss various pressing issues surrounding LGBTQ+ rights, particularly focusing on recent legislation in Utah that bans gender-affirming care for minors despite contradicting studies. They also delve into the cultural implications of pride flags in schools, personal experiences with LGBTQ+ identities, and the broader societal hypocrisy within Christian nationalism.
Chapters
08:39 Gender-Affirming Care Legislation in Utah
17:48 LGBTQ+ Rights and Pride Flags in Schools
39:14 Cultural Hypocrisy and the Christian Right
49:04 The Journey to Authenticity and Freedom
01:00:06 The Chilling Effect of Discrimination
01:14:49 Weird Christian Moments and Cultural Reflections
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you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

9 snips
May 26, 2025 • 1h 9min
19. The Religious Right's Beginning: Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority
Dive into the influential legacy of Jerry Falwell, a key figure in the rise of Christian nationalism. Discover how he transformed from a pastor to a political powerhouse with the Moral Majority. The discussion reveals his controversial stances on civil rights and abortion. Reflect on the cultural implications of the Teletubbies controversy and the rhetoric that has shaped perceptions of LGBTQ+ communities. Explore the evolution from Falwell's beliefs to modern-day political dynamics, highlighting the intersection of faith and power.

May 23, 2025 • 1h 33min
18. Pro-life hypocrisy from Georgia to Gaza, Plantation Burns & Trump Chaos
Tim and April dive into personal updates, including Tim's recent ADHD diagnosis and delightful parenting stories. They tackle the burning of the Nottoway plantation, exploring its haunting history and implications. Political chaos surrounding figures like Donald Trump is critiqued, alongside discussions on the narratives of white genocide and humanitarian crises in Gaza. The complexity of abortion laws and ethical dilemmas are examined, urging empathy and critical reflection on political discourse and societal narratives.

May 19, 2025 • 1h 17min
17. Eugenics? RFK Jr, Autism Registries, and Anti-Vax Beliefs
Jessica Malati Rivera, an infectious disease epidemiologist and science communicator, discusses the historical roots of science denialism, focusing on RFK Jr.'s controversial views on vaccines and autism. She highlights the dehumanization of autism in public discourse and stresses the importance of accurate science communication. The conversation also critiques the wellness industry's influence on health perceptions and the ethical concerns surrounding autism registries. Jessica advocates for compassionate public health measures and urges a deeper understanding of autism as a complex spectrum.

9 snips
May 16, 2025 • 1h 45min
16. White Victimhood and Race-Baiting - Trump's Mission to Save White Africans
Dive into a lively discussion about the surprising election of a new Pope promoting progressive values. Explore the exhausting realities of activism against Trump’s influence within evangelical circles. Unravel the eerie myths surrounding 'white genocide' in South Africa, and examine how conspiracy theories intertwine with pop culture. Discover how immigration policies prioritize white refugees amidst a backdrop of systemic racism. Plus, humorous reflections on gender roles and a critique of evangelical hypocrisy make for a thought-provoking listen!

May 12, 2025 • 1h 22min
15. The Seven Mountain Mandate EXPOSED: The Belief Behind Christian Nationalism
This Tim and April Episode delves into the Seven Mountain Mandate, a belief that Christians are called to influence seven key areas of society: business, government, family, religion, media, education, and arts and entertainment. The hosts discuss its origins, particularly its connection to dominion theology and the New Apostolic Reformation, and how it has gained traction in contemporary politics, especially during the Trump presidency.
Highlights
03:05 Understanding the Seven Mountain Mandate
08:49 Lance Wallnau and the Rise of the Mandate
14:57 The Role of the Moral Majority
20:51 The Connection to Donald Trump
29:52 Conclusion and Future Implications
41:09 Reinterpretation of Biblical Figures
49:11 Militant Christianity and Political Power
01:01:18 Mike Johnson's Christian Nationalism
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 9, 2025 • 1h 36min
14. Darth Trump Defies Constitution and Christians Defend Racism (again)
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim and April discuss the significance of Star Wars in contemporary discourse, analyze Donald Trump's recent social media posts, and reflect on the role of tradition in Christianity. The conversation highlights the absurdities of modern political rhetoric and the challenges of navigating faith in a polarized world.
Order April's Book | Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith
Highlights
08:48 Trump's Star Wars Posts and Political Satire
19:01 The Role of Tradition in Modern Christianity
24:48 Trump's Controversial Statements and Christian Values
40:51 Immigration Policies and Human Rights
57:34 Victimhood and Fundraising in Racism
01:06:51 The Impact of Racism on Society
01:15:20 The Legacy of Racism in Evangelicalism
01:28:42 Future Directions and Community Engagement
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


