

The Tim & April Show
The New Evangelicals
Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
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Nov 18, 2025 • 2h 1min
64. MAGA Pastors have the WORST arguments for Christian Nationalism
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy respond to a discussion among four megachurch pastors about Christian nationalism. They explore the definitions, misconceptions, and historical context of Christian nationalism, emphasizing its implications for American politics and society. The hosts critique the pastors' views, highlighting the dangers of conflating Christianity with American identity and the historical injustices perpetuated by this ideology.
Chapters
01:43 Introducing the Pastors and Their Backgrounds
05:01 Diving into the Discussion on Christian Nationalism
08:11 Historical Context and Misconceptions
17:40 Addressing the Nuances of Christian Nationalism
28:56 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps
38:29 Culture Wars and Morality
43:34 Christian Influence in Public Policy
48:19 Different Factions of Christian Nationalism
01:06:05 Empathy vs. Dogma
01:20:29 Legal and Moral Implications in Society
01:24:28 Christian Nationalism and Founding Documents
01:53:20 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 32min
63. Explosive Epstein Emails, Democrats Cave, and SCOTUS Upholds Gay Marriage
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss a range of pressing political issues, including the implications of recent Supreme Court rulings on marriage equality, the ongoing threat of Christian nationalism, and the fallout from the government shutdown. They delve into the release of thousands of emails related to Jeffrey Epstein, exploring the connections between Epstein and Donald Trump, as well as the broader implications for American politics.
Chapters
05:40 The Relentless Pursuit of Christian Nationalism
11:38 The Complexity of Political Compromise
22:07 The Role of Democrats in Stopping MAGA
38:07 Trump's History with Women and Epstein
43:09 Unveiling Epstein's Connections
55:19 The Politics of Transparency
01:10:27 MAGA's Internal Conflicts
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 34min
62. The MAGA Civil War Over Nick Fuentes
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the troubling rise of right-wing extremism, focusing on figures like Nick Fuentes and the implications of their ideologies. They discuss the normalization of Holocaust denial, misogyny, and the platforming of extremist views by mainstream media figures like Tucker Carlson.
Chapters
04:50 The Rise of Nick Fuentes
14:43 Tucker Carlson's Platforming of Extremism
24:47 Misogyny and Relationships
34:27 Conclusion and Call to Action
52:34 The Rise of Christian Zionism
01:08:47 The Heritage Foundation's Stance on Anti-Semitism
01:18:57 The Conflict of Christian Nationalism and True Faith
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 7, 2025 • 1h 37min
61. Blue Wave Sends Message to Trump: Americans Don't Like Being Dumped on
*Since recording - Kevin Roberts apologized in a staff meeting for his remarks Read about it below*
https://thehill.com/policy/5592407-heritage-foundation-carlson-controversy/
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy celebrate a 'blue wave' of Democratic wins, including Zohran Mamdani's New York City mayoral victory. They introduce Maurice Mitchell, National Director for the Working Families Party, who discusses the party's successful strategies and focus on affordability and working-class issues.
Maurice's About Page | Workingfamilies.org/about-maurice-mitchell
Chapters
04:03 Celebrating the Blue Wave
07:12 Show Introduction and Background
15:03 Hope and Future Work
22:28 Promoting The New Evangelicals
51:11 Islamophobic Tweet Discussion
52:15 Trump's Great Gatsby Party
55:29 Hypocrisy in Evangelical Circles
01:03:37 Interview with Maurice Mitchell
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 4, 2025 • 1h 14min
60. Can America Avoid a Christian Nationalist Takeover
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the early warning signs of fascism, focusing on the concept of nationalism. They discusses how nationalism manifests as a strong identification with one's own nation, often at the expense of others, and draws parallels to contemporary political slogans like 'America First.'
Chapters
05:42 The Disparity in Perspectives on Current Events
17:51 The Shallow Theology of White Evangelicalism
29:28 The Journey of Deconstruction and Its Implications
37:08 The War Against Deconstruction: Understanding the Backlash
44:15 The Role of the Military: Supremacy and Control
51:37 Religion and Government: The Intertwined Relationship
01:01:12 Crime and Punishment: The Narrative of Fear
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

4 snips
Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 27min
59. The Christian Nationalist Value of Starving Families
Discover the implications of SNAP benefits running out amidst a government shutdown as the hosts explore conflicting narratives and the realities faced by families. They debunk myths surrounding SNAP recipients and reveal how cuts ripple through the economy, affecting everything from healthcare to retail. The discussion dives into the hypocrisy of political messaging, the roots of wealth inequality, and the urgent need for community support. Reflecting on evangelical connections to political movements, they also analyze shifting sentiments among evangelicals towards MAGA.

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 27min
58. Here's How Christian Nationalism Leads to Defending Slavery
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the controversial topic of slavery as discussed in the Bible, particularly focusing on the arguments made by Joshua Haymes. They explore the implications of these arguments within the context of evangelicalism and Christian nationalism, highlighting the contradictions and moral dilemmas that arise from a literal interpretation of scripture.
Chapters
05:47 The Role of Historical Context in Biblical Interpretation
11:29 The Debate on Moral Foundations and Slavery
17:17 The Intersection of Christianity and Social Justice
26:11 The Future of Evangelicalism and Its Ideologies
43:58 Interpreting Scripture in Context
58:59 Slavery and Biblical Justifications
01:19:27 Concluding Thoughts on Human Dignity
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 43min
57. Conservative Christians Love Trump's Sh*t
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss various topics including the No Kings protest, and the implications of Christian nationalism in modern politics. They reflect on the hypocrisy within political rhetoric, particularly in relation to Donald Trump and the GOP's response to extremism.
Chapters
05:34 The No Kings Protest: A Personal Experience
08:44 The Dichotomy of Christian Nationalism and Love
14:49 The Hypocrisy of Political Rhetoric
20:43 The Role of Funding in Protests and Political Narratives
31:25 The Myth of Kingship and Christian Nationalism
41:22 Authoritarianism and Trump's Actions
50:17 Data-Driven Insights on Christian Nationalism
01:02:21 Misunderstanding the Gospel and Faith
01:13:40 The GOP's Extremism and the Rise of Neo-Nazism
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 21, 2025 • 46min
56. This is christian A.I. video is BIZARRE
In today's episode, Tim and April engage in a lighthearted discussion that transitions into a critique of an AI-generated animated short film about the Rapture. They explore the absurdities of the film, the cultural implications of Rapture narratives, and the reactions to a new horror film titled 'The Carpenter's Son' featuring Nicolas Cage.
Chapters
02:49 Reacting to AI Animated Short Film
08:19 Discussion on Rapture Media
13:14 The Carpenter's Son Trailer Reaction
18:40 Weird Christian Products and Commentary
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Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 1min
55. Timeline Cleanse: Hopeful Stories and Good People Standing Up to Harm
In today's episode, Tim and April delve into topics of faith, politics, and culture. This episode discusses the power of community action in resisting authoritarian practices, highlighting a viral incident in Chicago where community members intervened in an ICE operation. The episode aims to encourage listeners by showcasing positive community efforts and the importance of standing up for justice.
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Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


