

The Tim & April Show
The New Evangelicals
Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 23min
69. MAGA Pastors Have MORE Bad Takes to Share on Christian Nationalism
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the complexities of Christian nationalism, exploring its implications on faith, politics, and culture. They discuss the concept of being 'exiles in Babylon,' the responsibility of Christians to engage politically, and the dangers of Christian supremacy.
Chapters
10:11 The Role of Christians in Politics
19:47 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings
38:23 The Disconnect in Legal Matters
44:10 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation
49:16 Christianity's Political Influence
01:04:50 The Flaws in Biblical Inerrancy
01:16:19 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 5, 2025 • 1h 41min
68. MAGA Christians Are Victims for a Bad Grade but Are Cool With Blowing Up Boats
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss a controversial incident involving a college student who received a zero on her essay about gender roles, which she attributed to her Christian beliefs. The conversation explores the implications of her claims, the responses from the academic community, and the media's role in shaping the narrative around Christian nationalism and perceived persecution.
Chapters
04:51 The Controversial Essay Incident
17:09 Responses from the TA and Professor
30:45 The Persecution Narrative
38:37 Concluding Thoughts on the Incident
56:53 Victimhood and Persecution in Contemporary Discourse
01:02:10 Institutional Responses to Controversial Issues
01:14:27 The Broader Implications of Christian Nationalism
01:25:55 The Need for Critical Engagement in Political Conversations
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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Nov 27, 2025 • 32min
67. A Quick Thank You From Us
In this special Thanksgiving episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the origins and development of their podcast, reflect on the challenges and rewards of the past year, and express their gratitude to their audience. They touch on the difficulties of navigating family dynamics during the holidays, especially when political and social views clash, and they offer advice on setting healthy boundaries.
Chapters
01:11 Reflecting on the Show's Journey
09:37 Gratitude and Personal Reflections
15:55 Planning the Live Show in Chattanooga
24:25 Gratitude and Future Plans
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 19min
66. We're Gobbling Up that Mamdani & Trump Meeting
Join Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy for a special Friendsgiving episode. This episode features a lively Q&A session, discussions on the complexities of Christian nationalism, and reflections on personal spirituality.
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 21, 2025 • 1h 36min
65. Plot Twist: Christian Persecution from the Trump Administration?
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, the political landscape, and the implications of recent events surrounding ICE and the Epstein files. They emphasize the importance of centering survivors' voices, critique the hypocrisy within the Christian nationalist movement, and highlight community efforts to resist oppression.
Chapters
11:43 Political Landscape and Economic Discontent
17:29 ICE and Christian Persecution
35:04 Community Resistance and Faith in Action
45:16 Trump Signs Epstein Bill: A Controversial Announcement
54:52 Mike Johnson's Role and Reactions
01:09:43 Megyn Kelly's Controversial Comments on Pedophilia
01:27:51 Weird Christian Beliefs: A Lighthearted Conclusion
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 18, 2025 • 2h 1min
64. MAGA Pastors have the WORST arguments for Christian Nationalism
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy respond to a discussion among four megachurch pastors about Christian nationalism. They explore the definitions, misconceptions, and historical context of Christian nationalism, emphasizing its implications for American politics and society. The hosts critique the pastors' views, highlighting the dangers of conflating Christianity with American identity and the historical injustices perpetuated by this ideology.
Chapters
01:43 Introducing the Pastors and Their Backgrounds
05:01 Diving into the Discussion on Christian Nationalism
08:11 Historical Context and Misconceptions
17:40 Addressing the Nuances of Christian Nationalism
28:56 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps
38:29 Culture Wars and Morality
43:34 Christian Influence in Public Policy
48:19 Different Factions of Christian Nationalism
01:06:05 Empathy vs. Dogma
01:20:29 Legal and Moral Implications in Society
01:24:28 Christian Nationalism and Founding Documents
01:53:20 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 32min
63. Explosive Epstein Emails, Democrats Cave, and SCOTUS Upholds Gay Marriage
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss a range of pressing political issues, including the implications of recent Supreme Court rulings on marriage equality, the ongoing threat of Christian nationalism, and the fallout from the government shutdown. They delve into the release of thousands of emails related to Jeffrey Epstein, exploring the connections between Epstein and Donald Trump, as well as the broader implications for American politics.
Chapters
05:40 The Relentless Pursuit of Christian Nationalism
11:38 The Complexity of Political Compromise
22:07 The Role of Democrats in Stopping MAGA
38:07 Trump's History with Women and Epstein
43:09 Unveiling Epstein's Connections
55:19 The Politics of Transparency
01:10:27 MAGA's Internal Conflicts
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 34min
62. The MAGA Civil War Over Nick Fuentes
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the troubling rise of right-wing extremism, focusing on figures like Nick Fuentes and the implications of their ideologies. They discuss the normalization of Holocaust denial, misogyny, and the platforming of extremist views by mainstream media figures like Tucker Carlson.
Chapters
04:50 The Rise of Nick Fuentes
14:43 Tucker Carlson's Platforming of Extremism
24:47 Misogyny and Relationships
34:27 Conclusion and Call to Action
52:34 The Rise of Christian Zionism
01:08:47 The Heritage Foundation's Stance on Anti-Semitism
01:18:57 The Conflict of Christian Nationalism and True Faith
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 7, 2025 • 1h 37min
61. Blue Wave Sends Message to Trump: Americans Don't Like Being Dumped on
*Since recording - Kevin Roberts apologized in a staff meeting for his remarks Read about it below*
https://thehill.com/policy/5592407-heritage-foundation-carlson-controversy/
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy celebrate a 'blue wave' of Democratic wins, including Zohran Mamdani's New York City mayoral victory. They introduce Maurice Mitchell, National Director for the Working Families Party, who discusses the party's successful strategies and focus on affordability and working-class issues.
Maurice's About Page | Workingfamilies.org/about-maurice-mitchell
Chapters
04:03 Celebrating the Blue Wave
07:12 Show Introduction and Background
15:03 Hope and Future Work
22:28 Promoting The New Evangelicals
51:11 Islamophobic Tweet Discussion
52:15 Trump's Great Gatsby Party
55:29 Hypocrisy in Evangelical Circles
01:03:37 Interview with Maurice Mitchell
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 4, 2025 • 1h 14min
60. Can America Avoid a Christian Nationalist Takeover
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the early warning signs of fascism, focusing on the concept of nationalism. They discusses how nationalism manifests as a strong identification with one's own nation, often at the expense of others, and draws parallels to contemporary political slogans like 'America First.'
Chapters
05:42 The Disparity in Perspectives on Current Events
17:51 The Shallow Theology of White Evangelicalism
29:28 The Journey of Deconstruction and Its Implications
37:08 The War Against Deconstruction: Understanding the Backlash
44:15 The Role of the Military: Supremacy and Control
51:37 Religion and Government: The Intertwined Relationship
01:01:12 Crime and Punishment: The Narrative of Fear
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


