The Tim & April Show

The New Evangelicals
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Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 27min

52. Why Christian Nationalists are Hellbent on Hell

Brian Recker, a public theologian and author of 'Hell Bent,' joins the hosts to unpack the profound effects of hell on Christian nationalism. He discusses how fear of hell acts as a control mechanism within evangelical communities. The conversation critiques the certainty many evangelicals hold about hell, contrasting it with a more life-oriented spirituality. They also address the historical misuse of hell to justify injustices and explore how focusing on fear undermines genuine love and mutual respect in faith.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 30min

51. Mass Shootings and Masculine Frailty: Christian Nationalism Loses Its Angle

In today's episode, Tim and April discuss the recent mass shootings in America, particularly focusing on a tragic incident at a Mormon church. They delve into the broader issue of gun violence, exploring the correlation between gun laws and violence rates. The conversation shifts to the influence of Christian nationalism in politics, particularly in relation to military leadership and rhetoric. Chapters 01:01 Mass Shootings and Their Impact 06:07 Analyzing the Michigan Church Shooting 18:09 Mental Health and Gun Violence 29:28 The Role of Evangelicals in Violenc 42:04 Political Violence and Accountability 45:32 Military Leadership and Political Rhetoric 54:06 War and Military Ethics 59:36 Physical Fitness Standards in the Military 01:09:31 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Policy ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 26min

50. Is Your Pastor a Christian Nationalist? Spot these Clues

In today's episode, Tim and April delve into the complex topic of Christian nationalism, exploring its definitions, historical roots, and modern implications. They discuss how Christian nationalism manifests in both overt and subtle ways, the cultural context surrounding it, and the role of tolerance in shaping perceptions of truth. Chapters 05:34 Defining Christian Nationalism 11:41 The Role of Tragedy in Christian Nationalist Ideology 17:41 Overt Expressions of Christian Nationalism 23:29 Misogyny and Racism in Christian Nationalism 40:04 Critiquing Leadership and Christian Nationalism 59:13 The Role of Music and Culture in Christian Identity 01:17:56 Reinforcement of Christian Nationalism in Society ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 39min

49. The Christian Nationalist Spectacle of Charlie Kirk’s Funeral

In today's live, Tim and April explore the complexities of Christian nationalism, particularly in the context of the recent memorial service for Charlie Kirk. They discuss the intertwining of faith and politics, the rhetoric used by evangelical leaders, and the implications of such beliefs on marginalized communities. Chapters 04:18 Understanding Christian Nationalism 09:48 The Charlie Kirk Memorial Service 23:09 Political Rhetoric and Christian Messaging 48:52 The Impact of Christian Nationalism 01:14:41 Donald Trump's Remarks at the Memorial ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 23, 2025 • 1h 19min

48. Columbine & Charlie Kirk: The Impact of Christian Martyrdom

In today's episode, Tim and April discuss the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk, the implications of his martyrdom within the context of Christian nationalism, and the ongoing issues of gun violence in America. They explore the cultural narratives surrounding the Rapture, the historical context of martyrdom in Christianity, and the psychological impact of evangelical teachings on individuals. Chapters 03:54 Condemning Violence and Gun Culture 11:54 Historical Context of Christian Martyrdom 23:31 Radicalization and Christian Nationalism 37:12 Empathy Amidst Political Violence 43:06 Navigating Childhood Theology 51:52 Rapture Ideology and Martyrdom 01:03:42 Awakening to Christian Nationalism ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 19, 2025 • 1h 37min

47. A tale of Two Americas: How Charlie Kirk Will be Remembered

In today's live, Malynda Hale joins Tim to discuss the current political climate, focusing on the rise of Christian nationalism and its implications for society. They reflect on the recent incident involving Charlie Kirk, exploring the differing responses from various Christian communities, particularly in relation to race and systemic issues. Chapters 01:47 Navigating Mental Health in Turbulent Times 08:49 The Rise of Christian Nationalism 15:51 The Charlie Kirk Incident and Its Implications 31:32 Racial Dynamics in Christian Responses 40:32 The Legacy of Violence and Systemic Racism 55:19 Weird Christian Moments and Cultural Reflections ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 16, 2025 • 58min

46. The Role of Women and Queer People in Doug Wilson's Christian America

In today's Part 2, Tim and April delve into the controversial views of Doug Wilson, particularly focusing on his perspectives regarding gender roles, women's contributions to society, and the dynamics of marriage. They critique Wilson's interpretation of biblical teachings and how they relate to modern societal issues, including slavery and Christian nationalism. Chapters 03:44 Gender Roles and Women's Contributions 17:32 The Dynamics of Marriage and Authority 29:32 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications 38:16 Conclusion and Call to Action ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 11, 2025 • 30min

45. "Just a Bunch of Holes?" Christian Nationalist Men Expose Their Hatred of Women

In today's episode of The Tim and April Show, we discuss the alarming rise of extremism within Christian nationalism, focusing on the misogynistic rhetoric of figures like Elijah Schaffer and Joel Webbon. They explore the dehumanization of women in contemporary discourse, the toxic masculinity that underpins these beliefs, and the bizarre beliefs surrounding spirituality and women's health. Chapters 07:31 Dehumanization and Misogyny in Modern Discourse 14:28 Weird Christian Beliefs and Misogyny 24:34 Conclusion and Future Directions ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 18min

44. Doug Wilson's Dreadful Vision for a Christian America

Doug Wilson, a leading voice in Christian nationalism and pastor to prominent figures, tackles the contentious implications of his beliefs. He discusses the troubling rise of Christian nationalism and its effects on women’s rights and LGBTQ+ issues. The conversation challenges outdated gender roles, especially in military settings, while critiquing toxic masculinity's societal impact. Through this lens, they explore the intertwining of faith and politics, urging for meaningful dialogue on these critical issues.
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Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 33min

43. Trump vs Survivors: The Battle over Releasing the Epstein Files

In today's live Tim and April discuss a range of pressing topics, including Tim's return from sabbatical, the shift in focus towards exposing Christian nationalism, and the ongoing implications of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Chapters 05:49 Current Events and News Highlights 11:48 Political Reactions to Epstein's Case 17:54 Bipartisan Efforts for Justice 26:45 Marjorie Taylor Greene's Support for Survivors 35:08 Final Thoughts and Reflections 56:01 Vaccine Mandates and Public Health ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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