

The Tim & April Show
The New Evangelicals
Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 27min
58. Here's How Christian Nationalism Leads to Defending Slavery
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the controversial topic of slavery as discussed in the Bible, particularly focusing on the arguments made by Joshua Haymes. They explore the implications of these arguments within the context of evangelicalism and Christian nationalism, highlighting the contradictions and moral dilemmas that arise from a literal interpretation of scripture.
Chapters
05:47 The Role of Historical Context in Biblical Interpretation
11:29 The Debate on Moral Foundations and Slavery
17:17 The Intersection of Christianity and Social Justice
26:11 The Future of Evangelicalism and Its Ideologies
43:58 Interpreting Scripture in Context
58:59 Slavery and Biblical Justifications
01:19:27 Concluding Thoughts on Human Dignity
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 43min
57. Conservative Christians Love Trump's Sh*t
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss various topics including the No Kings protest, and the implications of Christian nationalism in modern politics. They reflect on the hypocrisy within political rhetoric, particularly in relation to Donald Trump and the GOP's response to extremism.
Chapters
05:34 The No Kings Protest: A Personal Experience
08:44 The Dichotomy of Christian Nationalism and Love
14:49 The Hypocrisy of Political Rhetoric
20:43 The Role of Funding in Protests and Political Narratives
31:25 The Myth of Kingship and Christian Nationalism
41:22 Authoritarianism and Trump's Actions
50:17 Data-Driven Insights on Christian Nationalism
01:02:21 Misunderstanding the Gospel and Faith
01:13:40 The GOP's Extremism and the Rise of Neo-Nazism
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 21, 2025 • 46min
56. This is christian A.I. video is BIZARRE
In today's episode, Tim and April engage in a lighthearted discussion that transitions into a critique of an AI-generated animated short film about the Rapture. They explore the absurdities of the film, the cultural implications of Rapture narratives, and the reactions to a new horror film titled 'The Carpenter's Son' featuring Nicolas Cage.
Chapters
02:49 Reacting to AI Animated Short Film
08:19 Discussion on Rapture Media
13:14 The Carpenter's Son Trailer Reaction
18:40 Weird Christian Products and Commentary
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Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 1min
55. Timeline Cleanse: Hopeful Stories and Good People Standing Up to Harm
In today's episode, Tim and April delve into topics of faith, politics, and culture. This episode discusses the power of community action in resisting authoritarian practices, highlighting a viral incident in Chicago where community members intervened in an ICE operation. The episode aims to encourage listeners by showcasing positive community efforts and the importance of standing up for justice.
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
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Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 27min
54. Tim Debated Allie Stuckey on Jubilee and Has the Tea
In today's episode, Tim and April delve into Tim's recent experience participating in a debate on Jubilee with Allie Stuckey. They discuss the dynamics of the debate, audience reactions, and the implications of the claims made by Stuckey regarding topics such as marriage, toxic empathy, and slavery in the Bible.
Chapters
05:07 The Format and Challenges of the Debate
17:51 Debating Biblical Marriage: A Closer Look
40:43 Reflections on Debate and Growth
50:31 The Complexity of Biblical Interpretation
01:00:58 The Clash of Progressivism and Christianity
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 38min
53. ICE Raids, a Government Shutdown, and Christian Nationalist Mayhem
In today's live, Tim and April discuss a range of topics including the absurdity of rapture predictions, the current ceasefire in Israel and Gaza, the ongoing ICE raids and government shutdown, the portrayal of Antifa by the right, the hypocrisy of Christian nationalism, the recent guilty plea of mega church pastor Robert Morris for child sex abuse, and the healthcare crisis exacerbated by political decisions.
Chapters
01:57 Rapture Predictions and Their Absurdity
09:47 ICE Raids and Government Actions
11:42 Antifa: Myth vs. Reality
23:47 Christian Nationalism and Its Impact
35:28 Conclusion and Call to Action
46:48 Community Resistance and Activism
58:34 The Role of Faith in Politics
01:08:03 The Impact of Christian Nationalism
01:23:05 Humor in the Christian Community
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 27min
52. Why Christian Nationalists are Hellbent on Hell
Brian Recker, a public theologian and author of 'Hell Bent,' joins the hosts to unpack the profound effects of hell on Christian nationalism. He discusses how fear of hell acts as a control mechanism within evangelical communities. The conversation critiques the certainty many evangelicals hold about hell, contrasting it with a more life-oriented spirituality. They also address the historical misuse of hell to justify injustices and explore how focusing on fear undermines genuine love and mutual respect in faith.

Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 30min
51. Mass Shootings and Masculine Frailty: Christian Nationalism Loses Its Angle
In today's episode, Tim and April discuss the recent mass shootings in America, particularly focusing on a tragic incident at a Mormon church. They delve into the broader issue of gun violence, exploring the correlation between gun laws and violence rates. The conversation shifts to the influence of Christian nationalism in politics, particularly in relation to military leadership and rhetoric.
Chapters
01:01 Mass Shootings and Their Impact
06:07 Analyzing the Michigan Church Shooting
18:09 Mental Health and Gun Violence
29:28 The Role of Evangelicals in Violenc
42:04 Political Violence and Accountability
45:32 Military Leadership and Political Rhetoric
54:06 War and Military Ethics
59:36 Physical Fitness Standards in the Military
01:09:31 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Policy
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 26min
50. Is Your Pastor a Christian Nationalist? Spot these Clues
In today's episode, Tim and April delve into the complex topic of Christian nationalism, exploring its definitions, historical roots, and modern implications. They discuss how Christian nationalism manifests in both overt and subtle ways, the cultural context surrounding it, and the role of tolerance in shaping perceptions of truth.
Chapters
05:34 Defining Christian Nationalism
11:41 The Role of Tragedy in Christian Nationalist Ideology
17:41 Overt Expressions of Christian Nationalism
23:29 Misogyny and Racism in Christian Nationalism
40:04 Critiquing Leadership and Christian Nationalism
59:13 The Role of Music and Culture in Christian Identity
01:17:56 Reinforcement of Christian Nationalism in Society
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 39min
49. The Christian Nationalist Spectacle of Charlie Kirk’s Funeral
In today's live, Tim and April explore the complexities of Christian nationalism, particularly in the context of the recent memorial service for Charlie Kirk. They discuss the intertwining of faith and politics, the rhetoric used by evangelical leaders, and the implications of such beliefs on marginalized communities.
Chapters
04:18 Understanding Christian Nationalism
09:48 The Charlie Kirk Memorial Service
23:09 Political Rhetoric and Christian Messaging
48:52 The Impact of Christian Nationalism
01:14:41 Donald Trump's Remarks at the Memorial
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
Tim on Instagram | @Timwhitakerspeaks
April on Instagram | @Aprilajoy
The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


