The Tim & April Show

The New Evangelicals
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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 27min

58. Here's How Christian Nationalism Leads to Defending Slavery

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the controversial topic of slavery as discussed in the Bible, particularly focusing on the arguments made by Joshua Haymes. They explore the implications of these arguments within the context of evangelicalism and Christian nationalism, highlighting the contradictions and moral dilemmas that arise from a literal interpretation of scripture. Chapters 05:47 The Role of Historical Context in Biblical Interpretation 11:29 The Debate on Moral Foundations and Slavery 17:17 The Intersection of Christianity and Social Justice 26:11 The Future of Evangelicalism and Its Ideologies 43:58 Interpreting Scripture in Context 58:59 Slavery and Biblical Justifications 01:19:27 Concluding Thoughts on Human Dignity ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 43min

57. Conservative Christians Love Trump's Sh*t

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss various topics including the No Kings protest, and the implications of Christian nationalism in modern politics. They reflect on the hypocrisy within political rhetoric, particularly in relation to Donald Trump and the GOP's response to extremism. Chapters 05:34 The No Kings Protest: A Personal Experience 08:44 The Dichotomy of Christian Nationalism and Love 14:49 The Hypocrisy of Political Rhetoric 20:43 The Role of Funding in Protests and Political Narratives 31:25 The Myth of Kingship and Christian Nationalism 41:22 Authoritarianism and Trump's Actions 50:17 Data-Driven Insights on Christian Nationalism 01:02:21 Misunderstanding the Gospel and Faith 01:13:40 The GOP's Extremism and the Rise of Neo-Nazism ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oct 21, 2025 • 46min

56. This is christian A.I. video is BIZARRE

In today's episode, Tim and April engage in a lighthearted discussion that transitions into a critique of an AI-generated animated short film about the Rapture. They explore the absurdities of the film, the cultural implications of Rapture narratives, and the reactions to a new horror film titled 'The Carpenter's Son' featuring Nicolas Cage. Chapters 02:49 Reacting to AI Animated Short Film 08:19 Discussion on Rapture Media 13:14 The Carpenter's Son Trailer Reaction 18:40 Weird Christian Products and Commentary ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 1min

55. Timeline Cleanse: Hopeful Stories and Good People Standing Up to Harm

In today's episode, Tim and April delve into topics of faith, politics, and culture. This episode discusses the power of community action in resisting authoritarian practices, highlighting a viral incident in Chicago where community members intervened in an ICE operation. The episode aims to encourage listeners by showcasing positive community efforts and the importance of standing up for justice. ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 27min

54. Tim Debated Allie Stuckey on Jubilee and Has the Tea

In today's episode, Tim and April delve into Tim's recent experience participating in a debate on Jubilee with Allie Stuckey. They discuss the dynamics of the debate, audience reactions, and the implications of the claims made by Stuckey regarding topics such as marriage, toxic empathy, and slavery in the Bible. Chapters 05:07 The Format and Challenges of the Debate 17:51 Debating Biblical Marriage: A Closer Look 40:43 Reflections on Debate and Growth 50:31 The Complexity of Biblical Interpretation 01:00:58 The Clash of Progressivism and Christianity ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 38min

53. ICE Raids, a Government Shutdown, and Christian Nationalist Mayhem

In today's live, Tim and April discuss a range of topics including the absurdity of rapture predictions, the current ceasefire in Israel and Gaza, the ongoing ICE raids and government shutdown, the portrayal of Antifa by the right, the hypocrisy of Christian nationalism, the recent guilty plea of mega church pastor Robert Morris for child sex abuse, and the healthcare crisis exacerbated by political decisions. Chapters 01:57 Rapture Predictions and Their Absurdity 09:47 ICE Raids and Government Actions 11:42 Antifa: Myth vs. Reality 23:47 Christian Nationalism and Its Impact 35:28 Conclusion and Call to Action 46:48 Community Resistance and Activism 58:34 The Role of Faith in Politics 01:08:03 The Impact of Christian Nationalism 01:23:05 Humor in the Christian Community ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 27min

52. Why Christian Nationalists are Hellbent on Hell

Brian Recker, a public theologian and author of 'Hell Bent,' joins the hosts to unpack the profound effects of hell on Christian nationalism. He discusses how fear of hell acts as a control mechanism within evangelical communities. The conversation critiques the certainty many evangelicals hold about hell, contrasting it with a more life-oriented spirituality. They also address the historical misuse of hell to justify injustices and explore how focusing on fear undermines genuine love and mutual respect in faith.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 30min

51. Mass Shootings and Masculine Frailty: Christian Nationalism Loses Its Angle

In today's episode, Tim and April discuss the recent mass shootings in America, particularly focusing on a tragic incident at a Mormon church. They delve into the broader issue of gun violence, exploring the correlation between gun laws and violence rates. The conversation shifts to the influence of Christian nationalism in politics, particularly in relation to military leadership and rhetoric. Chapters 01:01 Mass Shootings and Their Impact 06:07 Analyzing the Michigan Church Shooting 18:09 Mental Health and Gun Violence 29:28 The Role of Evangelicals in Violenc 42:04 Political Violence and Accountability 45:32 Military Leadership and Political Rhetoric 54:06 War and Military Ethics 59:36 Physical Fitness Standards in the Military 01:09:31 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Policy ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 26min

50. Is Your Pastor a Christian Nationalist? Spot these Clues

In today's episode, Tim and April delve into the complex topic of Christian nationalism, exploring its definitions, historical roots, and modern implications. They discuss how Christian nationalism manifests in both overt and subtle ways, the cultural context surrounding it, and the role of tolerance in shaping perceptions of truth. Chapters 05:34 Defining Christian Nationalism 11:41 The Role of Tragedy in Christian Nationalist Ideology 17:41 Overt Expressions of Christian Nationalism 23:29 Misogyny and Racism in Christian Nationalism 40:04 Critiquing Leadership and Christian Nationalism 59:13 The Role of Music and Culture in Christian Identity 01:17:56 Reinforcement of Christian Nationalism in Society ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 39min

49. The Christian Nationalist Spectacle of Charlie Kirk’s Funeral

In today's live, Tim and April explore the complexities of Christian nationalism, particularly in the context of the recent memorial service for Charlie Kirk. They discuss the intertwining of faith and politics, the rhetoric used by evangelical leaders, and the implications of such beliefs on marginalized communities. Chapters 04:18 Understanding Christian Nationalism 09:48 The Charlie Kirk Memorial Service 23:09 Political Rhetoric and Christian Messaging 48:52 The Impact of Christian Nationalism 01:14:41 Donald Trump's Remarks at the Memorial ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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