

The Tim & April Show
The New Evangelicals
Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
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Dec 30, 2025 • 1h 16min
74. Inside the NAR: The Christian Zealots Behind the Trump Administration
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, specifically the New Apostolic Reformation. They discuss the historical context of Christianity, the misinterpretation of scripture, and the dangers of dogmatic beliefs that prioritize power over compassion.
Chapters
05:32 The Concept of Babylon in Christianity
11:46 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings
17:34 The Call for Empathy and Inclusion
26:17 Conclusion and Call to Action
39:11 Jesus and Caesar: A New Perspective
44:07 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation
48:45 Religious Hypocrisy and Political Power
54:48 The Duality of Christianity: Power vs. Subversion
59:24 The Danger of Misusing Scripture
01:11:54 The Problem with Dogmatic Beliefs
01:16:16 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 24, 2025 • 1h 47min
73. MAGA Civil War Breaks Out at Turning Point's AmericaFest
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy dive into the complexities of the MAGA movement and Christian nationalism, particularly focusing on the recent America Fest event. They discuss the internal conflicts within the movement, the influence of key figures like Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro, and the contradictions between Christian teachings and the rhetoric used by leaders in the movement.
Chapters
05:47 The Christian Nationalist Movement
12:05 The MAGA Civil War and Internal Conflicts
18:00 The Role of Women in the Movement
24:06 The Hypocrisy of Christian Leaders
29:52 Conclusion and Reflections
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 19, 2025 • 1h 35min
72. Vanity Fair’s Christmas Gift to Us All
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy dive into the complexities of faith, politics, and culture as the holiday season approaches. They reflect on the challenges of maintaining authenticity in a world of political turmoil, discussing recent events like the Bondi Beach shooting and the controversial Vanity Fair article on Trump's administration.
Chapters
09:00 America Fest Reflections
15:00 Recent Tragic Events
21:00 Critiquing Public Figures
27:00 Complexities of Critiquing Israel
33:00 Media's Role in Public Perception
39:00 Empathy in Political Discourse
45:00 Faith in a Politically Charged Environment
51:00 Conclusion and Call to Action
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 16, 2025 • 54min
71. Church's ICE Nativity Scene Enrages Allie Beth Stuckey
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy critique the views of Ali Stuckey, particularly her interpretation of Christian values in relation to contemporary issues such as immigration and feminism. They discuss a controversial nativity scene that reimagines the Holy Family's experience in the context of modern immigration policies, highlighting the disconnect between Stuckey's views and the teachings of Jesus.
Chapters
05:11 Critique of Ali Stuckey's Views
12:23 Discussion on Blasphemy and the Nativity Scene
22:01 The Hypocrisy of Evangelical Responses
30:06 The Nature of Truth and Love in Christianity
37:13 The War on Christmas and Its Implications
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 12, 2025 • 1h 30min
70. Cinnabon Employee Cashes Out After Hate Tyrade
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker is joined by Dr. Jemar Tisby and as they discuss the complex intersections of faith, racism, and politics in America. They discuss the normalization of racism, as exemplified by a recent incident involving a Cinnabon employee, and the role of media in shaping public perception.
Jemar's Substack | Jemartisby.substack.com
Chapters
04:02 The Role of Social Media in Exposing Racism
24:14 The Intersection of Race, Politics, and Religion
31:48 The Legacy of White Christian Nationalism
44:27 The New Evangelicals Movement
52:26 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications
01:00:29 The Historical Context of Anti-Black Racism
01:08:01 FIFA's Controversial Peace Prize
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 23min
69. MAGA Pastors Have MORE Bad Takes to Share on Christian Nationalism
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the complexities of Christian nationalism, exploring its implications on faith, politics, and culture. They discuss the concept of being 'exiles in Babylon,' the responsibility of Christians to engage politically, and the dangers of Christian supremacy.
Chapters
10:11 The Role of Christians in Politics
19:47 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings
38:23 The Disconnect in Legal Matters
44:10 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation
49:16 Christianity's Political Influence
01:04:50 The Flaws in Biblical Inerrancy
01:16:19 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 5, 2025 • 1h 41min
68. MAGA Christians Are Victims for a Bad Grade but Are Cool With Blowing Up Boats
In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss a controversial incident involving a college student who received a zero on her essay about gender roles, which she attributed to her Christian beliefs. The conversation explores the implications of her claims, the responses from the academic community, and the media's role in shaping the narrative around Christian nationalism and perceived persecution.
Chapters
04:51 The Controversial Essay Incident
17:09 Responses from the TA and Professor
30:45 The Persecution Narrative
38:37 Concluding Thoughts on the Incident
56:53 Victimhood and Persecution in Contemporary Discourse
01:02:10 Institutional Responses to Controversial Issues
01:14:27 The Broader Implications of Christian Nationalism
01:25:55 The Need for Critical Engagement in Political Conversations
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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Nov 27, 2025 • 32min
67. A Quick Thank You From Us
In this special Thanksgiving episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the origins and development of their podcast, reflect on the challenges and rewards of the past year, and express their gratitude to their audience. They touch on the difficulties of navigating family dynamics during the holidays, especially when political and social views clash, and they offer advice on setting healthy boundaries.
Chapters
01:11 Reflecting on the Show's Journey
09:37 Gratitude and Personal Reflections
15:55 Planning the Live Show in Chattanooga
24:25 Gratitude and Future Plans
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 19min
66. We're Gobbling Up that Mamdani & Trump Meeting
Join Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy for a special Friendsgiving episode. This episode features a lively Q&A session, discussions on the complexities of Christian nationalism, and reflections on personal spirituality.
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 21, 2025 • 1h 36min
65. Plot Twist: Christian Persecution from the Trump Administration?
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, the political landscape, and the implications of recent events surrounding ICE and the Epstein files. They emphasize the importance of centering survivors' voices, critique the hypocrisy within the Christian nationalist movement, and highlight community efforts to resist oppression.
Chapters
11:43 Political Landscape and Economic Discontent
17:29 ICE and Christian Persecution
35:04 Community Resistance and Faith in Action
45:16 Trump Signs Epstein Bill: A Controversial Announcement
54:52 Mike Johnson's Role and Reactions
01:09:43 Megyn Kelly's Controversial Comments on Pedophilia
01:27:51 Weird Christian Beliefs: A Lighthearted Conclusion
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


