The Tim & April Show

The New Evangelicals
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Dec 30, 2025 • 1h 16min

74. Inside the NAR: The Christian Zealots Behind the Trump Administration

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, specifically the New Apostolic Reformation. They discuss the historical context of Christianity, the misinterpretation of scripture, and the dangers of dogmatic beliefs that prioritize power over compassion. Chapters 05:32 The Concept of Babylon in Christianity 11:46 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings 17:34 The Call for Empathy and Inclusion 26:17 Conclusion and Call to Action 39:11 Jesus and Caesar: A New Perspective 44:07 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation 48:45 Religious Hypocrisy and Political Power 54:48 The Duality of Christianity: Power vs. Subversion 59:24 The Danger of Misusing Scripture 01:11:54 The Problem with Dogmatic Beliefs 01:16:16 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 24, 2025 • 1h 47min

73. MAGA Civil War Breaks Out at Turning Point's AmericaFest

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy dive into the complexities of the MAGA movement and Christian nationalism, particularly focusing on the recent America Fest event. They discuss the internal conflicts within the movement, the influence of key figures like Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro, and the contradictions between Christian teachings and the rhetoric used by leaders in the movement. Chapters 05:47 The Christian Nationalist Movement 12:05 The MAGA Civil War and Internal Conflicts 18:00 The Role of Women in the Movement 24:06 The Hypocrisy of Christian Leaders 29:52 Conclusion and Reflections ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 19, 2025 • 1h 35min

72. Vanity Fair’s Christmas Gift to Us All

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy dive into the complexities of faith, politics, and culture as the holiday season approaches. They reflect on the challenges of maintaining authenticity in a world of political turmoil, discussing recent events like the Bondi Beach shooting and the controversial Vanity Fair article on Trump's administration. Chapters 09:00 America Fest Reflections 15:00 Recent Tragic Events 21:00 Critiquing Public Figures 27:00 Complexities of Critiquing Israel 33:00 Media's Role in Public Perception 39:00 Empathy in Political Discourse 45:00 Faith in a Politically Charged Environment 51:00 Conclusion and Call to Action ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 16, 2025 • 54min

71. Church's ICE Nativity Scene Enrages Allie Beth Stuckey

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy critique the views of Ali Stuckey, particularly her interpretation of Christian values in relation to contemporary issues such as immigration and feminism. They discuss a controversial nativity scene that reimagines the Holy Family's experience in the context of modern immigration policies, highlighting the disconnect between Stuckey's views and the teachings of Jesus. Chapters 05:11 Critique of Ali Stuckey's Views 12:23 Discussion on Blasphemy and the Nativity Scene 22:01 The Hypocrisy of Evangelical Responses 30:06 The Nature of Truth and Love in Christianity 37:13 The War on Christmas and Its Implications ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 12, 2025 • 1h 30min

70. Cinnabon Employee Cashes Out After Hate Tyrade

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker is joined by Dr. Jemar Tisby and as they discuss the complex intersections of faith, racism, and politics in America. They discuss the normalization of racism, as exemplified by a recent incident involving a Cinnabon employee, and the role of media in shaping public perception. Jemar's Substack | Jemartisby.substack.com Chapters 04:02 The Role of Social Media in Exposing Racism 24:14 The Intersection of Race, Politics, and Religion 31:48 The Legacy of White Christian Nationalism 44:27 The New Evangelicals Movement 52:26 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications 01:00:29 The Historical Context of Anti-Black Racism 01:08:01 FIFA's Controversial Peace Prize ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 23min

69. MAGA Pastors Have MORE Bad Takes to Share on Christian Nationalism

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the complexities of Christian nationalism, exploring its implications on faith, politics, and culture. They discuss the concept of being 'exiles in Babylon,' the responsibility of Christians to engage politically, and the dangers of Christian supremacy. Chapters 10:11 The Role of Christians in Politics 19:47 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings 38:23 The Disconnect in Legal Matters 44:10 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation 49:16 Christianity's Political Influence 01:04:50 The Flaws in Biblical Inerrancy 01:16:19 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 5, 2025 • 1h 41min

68. MAGA Christians Are Victims for a Bad Grade but Are Cool With Blowing Up Boats

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss a controversial incident involving a college student who received a zero on her essay about gender roles, which she attributed to her Christian beliefs. The conversation explores the implications of her claims, the responses from the academic community, and the media's role in shaping the narrative around Christian nationalism and perceived persecution. Chapters 04:51 The Controversial Essay Incident 17:09 Responses from the TA and Professor 30:45 The Persecution Narrative 38:37 Concluding Thoughts on the Incident 56:53 Victimhood and Persecution in Contemporary Discourse 01:02:10 Institutional Responses to Controversial Issues 01:14:27 The Broader Implications of Christian Nationalism 01:25:55 The Need for Critical Engagement in Political Conversations ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 27, 2025 • 32min

67. A Quick Thank You From Us

In this special Thanksgiving episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the origins and development of their podcast, reflect on the challenges and rewards of the past year, and express their gratitude to their audience. They touch on the difficulties of navigating family dynamics during the holidays, especially when political and social views clash, and they offer advice on setting healthy boundaries. Chapters 01:11 Reflecting on the Show's Journey 09:37 Gratitude and Personal Reflections 15:55 Planning the Live Show in Chattanooga 24:25 Gratitude and Future Plans ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 19min

66. We're Gobbling Up that Mamdani & Trump Meeting

Join Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy for a special Friendsgiving episode. This episode features a lively Q&A session, discussions on the complexities of Christian nationalism, and reflections on personal spirituality. ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 21, 2025 • 1h 36min

65. Plot Twist: Christian Persecution from the Trump Administration?

In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, the political landscape, and the implications of recent events surrounding ICE and the Epstein files. They emphasize the importance of centering survivors' voices, critique the hypocrisy within the Christian nationalist movement, and highlight community efforts to resist oppression. Chapters 11:43 Political Landscape and Economic Discontent 17:29 ICE and Christian Persecution 35:04 Community Resistance and Faith in Action 45:16 Trump Signs Epstein Bill: A Controversial Announcement 54:52 Mike Johnson's Role and Reactions 01:09:43 Megyn Kelly's Controversial Comments on Pedophilia 01:27:51 Weird Christian Beliefs: A Lighthearted Conclusion ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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