

Lean Out with Tara Henley
Tara Henley
Tara Henley is a Canadian journalist and bestselling author. On the Lean Out podcast, she interviews heterodox writers and thinkers from around the world, in an attempt to widen the Overton window of acceptable thought in society. You can learn more about her work at tarahenley.substack.com
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Dec 3, 2025 • 39min
EP 225: Amanda Fortini on Jan Kerouac and the legacy of the Beat Generation
One of the themes of the Lean Out podcast is the Sexual Revolution — and weighing its benefits and drawbacks, both for women and for men. Today on the show, we are going back to the period that led into that historical moment, to a bohemian movement of art and travel and sexual experimentation, but also of destruction and dysfunction and family tragedies. We're talking about the Beat Generation. Our guest on today’s program has written the introduction to a reissue of an astonishingly good book that explores all of this, written by Jack Kerouac’s daughter Jan. Amanda Fortini is an American magazine writer and Substacker. She’s a columnist at County Highway and a frequent contributor to T: The New York Times Style Magazine. She’s joins me to talk about the 1981 novel Baby Driver by Jan Kerouac.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Nov 26, 2025 • 44min
EP 224: Zac Seidler: We Need to Talk About Men's Mental Health
In Toronto, where I live, you cannot walk a block without seeing a young man in distress — sleeping on the street, or slumped over from drug use, or shouting and screaming. It feels like something has gone very wrong for men in this country and that nobody is talking about it. Our guest on the program today has dedicated his career to men’s health, and he has some important insights to share, both from his professional life and from his personal life.Zac Seidler is the Global Director of Men’s Health Research at Movember. He’s also an associate professor at Orygen centre for youth mental health at the University of Melbourne, and a member of the advisory council for the American Institute for Boys and Men. He recently joined Prince Harry for a Movember event in New York City.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Nov 19, 2025 • 55min
EP 223: Susan Swan on Modern Feminism
In the wake of the #MeToo firing of the University of British Columbia creative writing professor Steven Galloway — which is once again in the news this week — our guest on the program today sat down to write a book of advice for young feminists. But her good friend Margaret Atwood convinced her that nobody likes unsolicited advice, and that she should instead frame her memoir around her unusual height and how it shaped her life. The result is a riveting narrative that also offers up plenty of lessons to the next generation of women.Susan Swan is a Canadian novelist, non-fiction writer, professor emerita at York University, and a recipient of the Order of Canada. Her latest book is Big Girls Don’t Cry: A Memoir About Taking Up Space.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Nov 12, 2025 • 26min
EP 222: Molly Jong-Fast on Gen X Overwhelm
Many women in Generation X are now finding themselves overwhelmed. The world is increasingly stressful. But our private lives are not much calmer, as we care for children and aging parents and spouses, stare down middle age, and mull over the legacy of previous generations of women. Our guest on the program today knows something about this — she grappled with all of these things, all at once, during one truly terrible year.Molly Jong-Fast is an American writer and political commentator. She’s a special correspondent for Vanity Fair, a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times, and the host of the podcast Fast Politics. Her latest book is How to Lose Your Mother: A Daughter’s Memoir.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Nov 4, 2025 • 41min
EP 221: Daniel Debow: It's Time for 'Bold Adventurism'
It’s budget day here in Canada. As Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government tables its first federal budget, we will get reaction and hear a lot of different visions for the country. On today’s episode we wanted to bring you one. Our guest on the program says that Canada is in crisis — and that it is now time for "bold adventurism."Daniel Debow is a Canadian executive, investor, and educator. He is the chair of the board for Build Canada.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Oct 29, 2025 • 36min
EP 220: Darrell Bricker on Canada's Breaking Point
One of the themes of the Lean Out podcast is the many crises that Canada is facing —and where we go from here. Our guest on the program today warns that we are at a breaking point, and in desperate need of a national reckoning. As we face threats from without, he says, we are divided from within, along the lines of gender, class, region, and, crucially, generation.Darrell Bricker is the CEO of Ipsos Public Affairs and a previous director of public opinion research in the Prime Minister’s Office. His latest book, out this week — written with veteran journalist John Ibbitson — is Breaking Point: The New Big Shifts Putting Canada at Risk.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Oct 22, 2025 • 36min
EP 219: Jason Guriel on Fandom
Before the Internet, before the literary world was overrun by online politics, before everything you read — and wrote — had to advance an agenda, there was the solitary person, in a room, losing themselves in the words on the page. There was the fan. Our guest on the program today has written a book of essays on fandom and his own obsessions. In the process, he confronts the big cultural forces of our age.Jason Guriel is a Toronto writer. His latest book is Fan Mail: A Guide to What We Love, Loathe, and Mourn.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Oct 15, 2025 • 46min
EP 218: Adam Szetela on the Publishing Industry's 'Circular Firing Squad'
Many of us that are big readers have been scratching our heads for years, trying to figure out why so many books are now so tedious and moralistic. What’s happened to North American literary culture — and why hasn’t it bounced back? Our guest on the program today has some answers. He’s written a book about the decline of literary freedom in publishing, and a dynamic that he describes as “a circular firing squad.”Adam Szetela is an American author. His new outing is That Book is Dangerous! How Moral Panic, Social Media, and the Culture Wars Are Remaking Publishing.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Oct 8, 2025 • 40min
EP 217: Marc Dunkelman on Why Nothing Works
If you live in North America, chances are good that you spend a lot of time wondering why things feel so dysfunctional. Why can’t we make any progress on the big issues of our age, like housing? Our guest on the program today has some answers — and he has written a fascinating new book about why nothing works.Marc J. Dunkelman is an American author and former political staffer. He’s a fellow at Brown University’s Watson Institute of International and Public Affairs. His latest book is Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress — and How to Bring It Back.You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

Oct 1, 2025 • 53min
EP 216: David Cayley on the CBC's Populist Era
In recent years, we have seen heated debate in this country around the CBC and its future. With the question of defunding no longer looming, it is a good time to pause, to look back at where our national public broadcaster has been, and to talk through where it might go from here. Our guest on today’s program is veteran CBC producer who has written an insightful and well-researched new book about the institution — and where he thinks it went wrong.David Cayley is a Canadian author and broadcaster. For thirty years, he made documentaries for the CBC Radio show Ideas. His latest book is The CBC: How Canada’s Public Broadcaster Lost Its Voice (And How to Get It Back).You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com


