
Between the Lanes
This is a weekly podcast for leaders in any sphere. If you're a person, guess what—you’re leading! We want to challenge, encourage, and equip you to take your leadership to the next level! Join father and son Tom and Todd Lane as they discuss the different leadership lanes we all navigate.
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Aug 27, 2024 • 1h 14min
How To Live Out Your Faith As a Business Leader | Season 2 episode 3
In this episode of "Between the Lanes," we talk with Shawn Ring, a Christian leader and entrepreneur who’s mastered the art of blending faith with business. Shawn’s journey gives great insights as he shares how his faith has been consistent, guiding him through the ups and downs of building and scaling multiple startups.
Looking back on his early days, Shawn says, "At 28, I didn't really process the importance of linking identity to culture so that you draw the right talent because you can train skill. But it's very difficult to train someone in life and behavior." This point really drives home the idea that character is key in leadership—a theme that runs throughout this conversation.
We also dive into the balancing act of continuing to be visionary and futuristic while handling the day-to-day operations necessary to keep the company moving. Shawn talks about how important humility is in that process, saying, "Failure is part of the success and almost a requirement toward it. If you don't see it, you should be concerned." His open and honest take on the role of failure in growth is something every leader can learn from.
Plus, we get into how to empower your team to make decisions where they matter most, ensuring you’ve got the right people pushing your vision forward. Whether you’re leading a startup or managing a team, this episode is full of practical advice on navigating the challenges of business through your faith and relationship with God. Don’t miss out on this deep and engaging conversation that will connect with Christian business leaders and entrepreneurs!
#Leadership #FaithInBusiness #ChristianEntrepreneur #Startups #BusinessSuccess #TeamEmpowerment

Aug 20, 2024 • 59min
How to Succeed After Failure in Business | Season 2 episode 2
"Status is incompatible with being an entrepreneur because the second you care more about how things look than how they actually are, you set yourself up to fail." -Chris Heaslip
In this episode of Between the Lanes, Tom Lane and Todd Lane sit down with entrepreneur Chris Heaslip, to discuss how to succeed after failing in business. Chris is no stranger to the ups and downs of business—after trying and failing, or as Chris would say, "learning" to start 14 companies, his 15th venture finally took off, propelling him into the tech space with great success. Now, Chris is the founder, partner, and investor of many thriving businesses.
Chris believes that failure only exists if you quit. To him, you either succeed or you learn. This episode discusses how to grow and scale with a company experiencing explosive success, how the American mindset can limit a leader's perspective and growth, and the tension between excellence and status.
Chris also talks about how his faith in God has shaped and impacted his determination and desire to learn. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or looking to elevate your leadership, this conversation is packed with valuable insights and encouragement for achieving and sustaining success in any situation.

Aug 14, 2024 • 1h 3min
Maybe Business is Your Ministry | Season 2 episode 1
“What if I thought of my role as a business leader and I got up in the morning and I prayed like it was going to be a Billy Graham crusade…What if the expectation was, ‘Guys, we need to pray that God is going to do something through the business today.’”
In this episode of "Between the Lanes," father and son Tom and Todd Lane sit down with Jonathan Harkless, the managing partner of Banah Advisory, an investment bank specializing in mergers and acquisitions. They dive into a topic that might change how you view your career and faith: what if business is your ministry? Jonathan shares his unique perspective on how many of us are called into the business world and how that calling can be as powerful as vocational ministry. They discuss the need to have a perspective of ministry in business and not separate the two. This conversation blends leadership, faith, and the business world in a way that will challenge you to think differently about your role in both. If you want to connect your faith with your work, this episode is for you.

May 6, 2024 • 52min
Special Guest: "Excellent Culture's" Steve Gandara | Season 1 episode 33
Corporate culture is the beliefs that govern how people behave. Where there is a group of people, there is a culture. Tom and Todd discuss how to have an excellent culture in the areas that you lead with Steve Gandara, the managing director of Excellent Cultures.

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Apr 29, 2024 • 41min
Relationship Goals with Todd and Blynda Lane | Season 1 episode 32
Todd and Blynda Lane share insights on maintaining a successful marriage for 28 years, emphasizing communication, conflict resolution, understanding differences in processing styles, and transitioning between work and home life. They discuss the importance of recognizing strengths, fostering open communication, and supporting each other in decision-making.

Apr 22, 2024 • 59min
Special Guest Marty Bryan from Marty B's Ep.31
Restauranteur and entrepreneur Marty Bryan shares his inspiring journey of success and resilience. Topics include new event space plans, faith-based leadership, nurturing talent, unique hiring policy, financial struggles, and personal resilience amidst family hardships.

Apr 15, 2024 • 45min
Navigating the Different Spiritual Seasons Pt.2 Ep. 30.2
Tom and Todd have identified six spiritual seasons that every person experiences in their life. Join the discussion as they explain each season, its effects, and what battles to expect.

Apr 8, 2024 • 33min
Navigating the Different Spiritual Seasons Pt.1 Ep. 30
Tom and Todd have identified six spiritual seasons that every person experiences in their life. Join the discussion as they explain each season, its effects, and what battles to expect.

Apr 1, 2024 • 50min
Guest: Producer of "The Chosen" Ep. 29-Pt. 2
Tom and Todd continue the discussion with Chad Gundersen, producer of The Chosen TV series. They discuss what it's like to lead in the film industry and the lessons Chad has learned throughout his life that have equipped him to lead well.

Mar 25, 2024 • 49min
Guest: Producer of "The Chosen" - Chad Gundersen Ep. 29
Tom and Todd talk to Chad Gundersen, the producer of "The Chosen," about what it's like to lead in the film industry.
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