
You Need Therapy
Kathryn DeFatta, who has earned her Masters of Education from Vanderbilt University in Human Development Counseling, is inviting you into conversations around what it’s like to live fully in a world where we’ve become accustomed to shut parts of ourselves off. Here you will find a space that welcomes in discomfort, tough questions, and hard truths, all while showing how to find joy through it all.
Latest episodes

Nov 1, 2021 • 41min
Betrayal Trauma with Caitlin Olsen, LMFT
This week, Kat (@kat.defatta), has licensed therapist turned mental health coach, Caitlin Olsen (@therapywithcaitlin) on the show to talk about Betrayal Trauma. Learning about Betrayal Trauma has helped Caitlin's clients (and herself) make sense of the confusion and disempowerment that so many of us have experienced throughout much of our lives. For women, BIPOC, queer, and other marginalized communities, using the Betrayal Trauma lens can offer soothing validation and motivate some necessary righteous indignation. Caitlin specializes in Betrayal Trauma and Progressive Mormon womanhood. She's currently in her own path in learning to let her freak flag fly and loves helping other women create and wave their own. Learn more about Caitlin: Courses + Blog Here's the Cut article about badass Jennifer Freyd Caitlin mentioned in the episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 27, 2021 • 11min
Couch Talks: Body shifts in recovery
Couch talks is the special bonus episode of You Need Therapy where kat answers questions that you send to kathryn@youneedtheraoy.com.. This week Kat addresses how to keep a body neutral outlook when you body changes during eating disorder recovery. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 25, 2021 • 52min
Anxiety and Panic Disorder with Jen Kirkman
This week Kat (@kat.defatta) invites Jen Kirkman (@jenkirkman) on the podcast to have a candid conversation about. . . anxiety. Jen is an internationally touring comedian known for her Netflix specials “I’m Gonna Die Alone (and I Feel Fine)” and “Just Keep Livin.” and New York Times Best Selling author who now also hosts a new podcast called, Anxiety Bites. Jen has had life-long Panic and Generalized Anxiety Disorder and brings her life-lessons, humor, and hope to the podcast in an attempt to reduce the stigma of one of the most prevalent mental health disorders in our society. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 20, 2021 • 16min
Couch Talks: Can I Date Someone With An Insecure Attachment?
Couch talks is the special bonus episode of You Need Therapy where Kat (@kat.defatta) answers questions that listeners send to kathryn@youneedtherapypodcast.com. This week Kat talks about the risks of dating someone with an anxious or avoidant attachment style! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 18, 2021 • 31min
Intuitive Eating Talk with Crystal Lunenschloss, MS, RDN, CEDRD, LDN
This week Kat invites her friend and certified eating disorder registered dietician back, Crystal Lunenschloss. Together they discuss the parts of intuitive eating that are not talked about as much. Because of how easy information is distributive and absorbed theses days, sometimes we can miss things and or get confused. Crystal helps us come back to the truth of what intuitive eating is, how is works, and why it's not as easy as that influencer makes your think it is. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 13, 2021 • 20min
Couch Talks: Social Media Boundaries
Couch Talks is the bonus episode of You Need Therapy that comes out every Wednesday where Kat (@kat.defatta) answers questions that listeners send to kathryn@youneedtherapy.com. This week, Kat talks about how to create social media boundaries. This question came to Kay’s inbox after a listener heard Kat on Lisa Hayim’s (@lisahayim) podcast, The Truthiest Life. In this episode, Kat talked about how she shifted her view of herself after shifting how she allowed the opinion’s of others to affect her (you should listen to the whole episode linked HERE). Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 11, 2021 • 40min
Healing Heartbreak
This week Kat (@kat.defatta) is going solo again to talk about why breakups suck so bad. Kat breaks down what we go through behind the scenes of heartbreak. The obvious grief of losing the normalcy of a relationships makes sense. . . But what else do we lose and have to reorganize when we are learning how to “move on”? Kat can’t tell you exactly how to heal or give you steps follow in order to get over your ex, however she does offer some insight that may help you choose the tools and behaviors that will allow you to find the sense of peace that you are looking for. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 6, 2021 • 20min
Couch Talks: When Is It Okay to Give Feedback?
Couch Talks is the bonus episode of You Need Therapy that comes out every Wednesday where Kat (@kat.defatta) answers questions that listeners send to kathryn@youneedtherapy.com. This week, however, Kat has a special guest on with her to ask his question directly. Houston Tilley (@houstontilley), who is the producer behind You Need Therapy, brings up an experience he recently had while scrolling on social media. Together they talk about the difference between calling someone out and calling someone in, how to manage expectations when you offer feedback, and the power of speaking up when you notice a friend struggling. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 4, 2021 • 27min
Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop
This week Kat (@kat.defatta) is going solo for a conversation about the juxtaposition of joy. If you have ever been someone who becomes anxious when things start to align in your life, this one is for you. Kat explains why joy is surprisingly the most terrifying feeling that humans experience. And thanks to Brene Brown, we have some ways to combat this reflex in order to savor the goodness in our lives. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 29, 2021 • 16min
Couch Talks: My Ex is Friends with ALL of MY Friends...
Couch Talks is the special bonus episode of You Need Therapy where Kat (@kat.defatta) answers questions you send to kathryn@youneedtherapy.com. This week Kat talks about what to do when your ex is friends with your community AFTER the breakup. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.