Future of Fitness

Eric Malzone
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Oct 14, 2020 • 40min

An Exciting Time for Fitness - Jonathan Goodman

Jonathan Goodman is the founder of the Personal Trainer Development Center and author of multiple bestselling books for personal trainers. In addition, Jon founded the first-ever certification for online fitness trainers, the Online Trainer Academy. When Jon started Online Trainers Academy, how did he know we were going to have a pandemic in 2020 that would turn every one online? (1:18) Jon thought this was funny but says he did not know. However, it is not inconceivable to assume that there was going to be some large scale interruptive event in the future. The world changes very quickly and historically, in unpredictable ways. Anyone who was paying attention from a few years ago would've noticed the upward trend in technology-driven business. But what ultimately led Jon to turn towards online himself was an injury that put him off his feet for two weeks, effectively killing his income for that time period, and that got him thinking that he had to build something else. The Concept of Anti-fragility. (3:48) One of the key elements of anti-fragile is the concept that the more chaos ensues, the stronger things that are anti-fragile get. Jon encourages making yourself familiar with the concept of anti-fragility if you want to set yourself up for the future. You need to understand anti-fragility, asymmetrical risk and you need to understand how to mitigate loss and maximize gain. What's going on in the online training game? (16:38) There are a lot of people doing it that have no idea what they are doing. These people are hacking together not well thought out solutions and doing horribly because of it. Jon relates it to you going to a gym after googling a bit and bringing a video camera and now you're going to train people. Big training companies have thrown together online training programs and Jon's own clients have said that the models fall short and are terrible. You have to really do the research and spend the time to understand the core of online training for example: What works from a financial and business standpoint. What works for actual training clients as humans. How to get people to want to do the workout and to continually adhere to the workout? What does Jon think is going to be centralized within actual gyms? (22:26) Gyms are going to radically change, there is no doubt about that. The fitness industry is relatively young. In the past gyms have sold personal trainers as people who are not commoditized but treated and paid them like they were commoditized people and the truth is more personal trainers are commoditized. To be a truly great personal trainer you need to exhibit a lot of traits that are very hard to find in any single human for example: You need to be in good shape, energetic, motivational, empathetic, great at science programming, and interested in entrepreneurial aspects along with about 15 other things. However, with collaborative pairing and work, you can take multiple people with different skillsets and put them together to form something unique and powerful. The PTDC The Personal Trainer Development Center creates solutions for fitness and nutrition professionals. They do this by helping you do a better job, build a better business, and live a better life at every stage of your career. They have the World's Premier Certification for online training and are an internationally recognized leader for education and guidance within the fitness industry. Resources Connect with Jonathan: LinkedIn The PTDC: Website Connect with Eric: LinkedIn
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Oct 7, 2020 • 42min

Relationships & Networks - An Expert's Guide - Vanessa Severiano

Vanessa Severiano has been a leader in the fitness industry for 18+ years. She has extensive experience in creating, managing, and developing brands in areas of sales, marketing, branding, and operation. Vanessa understands firsthand what is required to ensure a successful outcome for a wellness business. How did Vanessa get to where she is now? (1:19) Vanessa started out about 19 years ago just after graduating from college. She had two degrees in English Literature and interpersonal and organizational communication. Interpersonal and Organizational Communication is about how to speak to others and clearly communicate management styles. Burnt out from School, Vanessa didn't want to work in a cubicle and started researching cool companies. Her first job was at The Crunch in 2001 which was a very work hard/play hard environment. In 2005 she moved to Miami and started the first two Equinox locations in Florida. Being a single move of two kids at the time, Vanessa pushed herself to limits she never thought was possible. After that, she ended up working for David Barton Gym for several years and then got a great opportunity to be a part of a start-up in Miami. Starting from zero members, zero-brand and zero identity was thrilling and took several years to build up but now she is where she is today. How does Vanessa tackle problems while helping businesses build themselves? (9:41) When coming into an organization that already exists you need to understand the history, understanding what's been happening and what has been successful. And then you can start focusing on what needs to happen and change to make the unsuccessful portions of a business successful. Coming into a new organization also poses the problem of people resisting change whether it is beneficial or not. You have to create that relationship and comfort level with those people. Connecting with other people, empowering them, and learning from them too. Solving problems in a business is a very collaborative process. Having good communication and speaking to the clients about what they also want is very important. Where most fitness professionals fall short withing their sales and marketing tactics and strategies. (11:56) Talents are individual and what you're good at is what you're good at but others might not be but they are good in something completely different that you are not good at. It's important to focus on yourself and your talents, no one is good at everything. It's important to collaborate with others to combine different strengths together. Business owners should invest in themselves and in a mentor to try and bring as much value as they can to clients. The key to having great relationships. (22:08) Effort, value, and respect are important to bring into a hopefully long term relationship, whether it's a business or romantic relationship. Nobody likes a one-sided relationship so you have to be willing to give, to provide value and support for the other person. Recognize that people communicate differently and adjust your way of communicating with individual people. Meeting people halfway is a big part of forming healthy relationships. They don't maintain themselves and putting in equal effort is important. What is something positive that will come out of this pandemic for the fitness industry? (25:11) Brands will be forced to provide more value to clients and the members and consumers of fitness technology. This is because there is a lot more competition out there at the moment from lower-priced options. Clients stick with a certain service or product because it gives them tremendous value and therefore as a company you have to make sure to maintain that value for your consumers. With the recent and rapid growth in fitness technology, Vanessa hopes and believes that it will get more people moving and being active. VannesaSeveriano.com Vanessa Severiano aims to help fitness and wellness businesses create outstanding brand experiences. Resources Connect with Vanessa: LinkedIn Vanessa Severiano: Website Connect with Eric: LinkedIn
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Sep 30, 2020 • 1h 3min

Badges of Busy and Certificates of Suffering - Max Shank

Max Shank is the owner of Ambition Athletics, he is also the author of Ultimate Athleticism, Simple Shoulder Solution, and Master The Kettlebell. Max studied economics and Spanish. He uses his knowledge in economics to make training and life easier and more efficient for his clients. Max wants to see everyone succeed and live a healthy and active life and therefore trains people to sustainably move daily without getting injured. What does Max's daily practice look like? (2:48) Max likes focusing on breathing to start off with, followed by a controlled pause. During this stage, you are practicing drawing the abdomen in and rolling it in waves. Really building that core control. People tend to hold their core stiff to exercise it but one should rather learn to balance the tension in their core, thus teaching them to breathe diaphragmatically. He then moves on to the vision and vestibular exercises to stimulate your vestibular system (your inner ear). They then move on to juggling, rolling on the floor, and shoulder rolls. They top this off with some self-massage and Isometrics bringing it to a full spectrum balanced muscle movements. Max also advises to be slow and deliberate in your movements and to build up speed over time, because if you're in too much of a hurry you end up missing the gains you would've gotten from deliberate slow movements. What will be a good thing to come out of the fitness industry? (41:24) There will be less competition for gym owners because many will be leaving the business forever. People in the industry like trainers are craving human connections. The more comfortable they can make their clients, the more clients you will eventually have. People are going to be slow coming back to physical gym sessions, however, people are open to online coaching and prefer it more than live training sessions. Time Management (53:07) Max believes that meditation does not really count unless you do it for an hour at a time. He thinks the same of exercise if you didn't do it for at least an hour, you did not really exercise. You need to try and fit these times into your schedule if you want to see any noticeable changes in your mood and productivity. Constant motion is important, but helping each other is more important. Figuring out the best way to thrive together. The world is your oyster, you just have to work hard. Ambition Athletics Ambition Athletics Their goal is to help people live a better, more active life without the stress of injury. With the belief that exercise should always build you up and not tear you down. Their exercises aim at sustainable and safe exercises that invigorate people and ready them for the day ahead of them. Resources: Better Every Day www.maxshank.com (Mobility) www.5minuteflow.com (Athleticism) www.ultimateathleticism.com The best gym in Encinitas: www.ambitionathletics.com (Healthy Shoulders) www.simpleshouldersolution.com Connect with Eric: LinkedIn Future of Fitness: Website
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Sep 23, 2020 • 30min

Highlight Reel Special - Celebrating Our 200th Episode

Today, we celebrate our 200th episode by taking a walk down memory lane and listening to some key moments in the last few episodes. Eric Malzone started this podcast almost 3 years ago because he wanted to help modernize the fitness industry. He tries to make the episodes as relevant and frequent as possible to keep up with current events and wants to help play a part in making the value of the fitness professional rise. Eric loves hearing from the fans and uses the feedback he receives to help add even more value right back into the podcast. Starting Businesses (3:50) Building a brand, company, or network is a marathon, not a sprint. You need to really believe in yourself and what you are trying to put out into the industry. Try and focus more on the bigger picture of what you yourself are trying to do for people and the world around you. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do something if you believe and work hard enough, anything is possible. Ask the people what they want, ask people what makes them happy, and adapt your business constantly to meet these criteria to the best of your ability. Don't be afraid to challenge the norms of others. That difference might be what sets you apart from the rest. However, don't see everyone as competition, be open to collaboration with others because your weak area might be someone else's strong area, and by working together, you can both reach higher and further. Making a difference (8:25) It's the little things that make a big difference to peoples' days like knowing people's names and saying hello and goodbye as they come and go. For some people coming to the gym or fitness club, is the best part of their day and, fitness professionals should strive to make those spaces as inclusive and safe for these people. To be happy, you need to find things that are constructive and good for you. We want people to smile more, we want people to move a bit more and ultimately, it comes down to mental health more than anything. Thoughts are uncontrollable, but your reaction to your thoughts is completely in your control. Fitness and Health during Covid-19 (24:48) Corona has acted as a catalyst and has accelerated the modernization of the fitness industry. It's also helped people become more health conscious as it directly relates to people caring for their bodies to build up that healthy immune system. Professionals are hoping and believing that the virus has changed the industry and people's outlook on health for the better. People have leaned on the fitness industry more than ever as an outlet for physical and mental wellness in uncertain times. Resources: Reach out to Eric: LinkedIn Future of Fitness Website: Website Contact: Erica Suter Mark Fisher Justin Devonshire Kate Jaramillo Ken Andrukow Mel Tempest Tony Gentilcore Adam Zeitsiff Andy Swansburg Steven Webster Kresten Jensen Max Coleman Jen Zygmunt Eric Chessen Dr. James Hardt Hewitt Tomlin Mike Hansen Shannon Hudson Dr. Sean Pastuch EC Synkowski
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Sep 16, 2020 • 44min

A Refreshing Approach To Nutrition - EC Synkowski

EC Synkowski runs OptimizeMe Nutrition, a company whose goal is to provide solutions for anyone to improve their weight, health, and overall well being through sustainable diet methods. EC has extensive education in the life sciences with a BS in biochemical engineering, a first MS in environmental sciences (with a focus in genetics), and a second MS in Nutrition & Functional Medicine. She has also trained others for two decades and has over 600 hours of public speaking experience teaching fitness and nutrition all over the world. How did EC get to where she is now? (1:36) EC originally started in environmental engineering and did some CrossFit seminars on the side before professionally starting in fitness. It was only when CrossFit started growing exponentially around 2010 that she started working full time for them. She continued to build her skills that she had accumulated over a decade by doing weekend training regimes and meeting other fitness professionals and designing new CrossFit programs, implementing them, and scaling them. It wasn't until around 2016 that she needed to do some continuing education for CrossFit, gaining a second master's degree in nutrition and functional medicine. As she finished her degree she resigned from CrossFit and started her own company. Why is nutrition so confusing and complicated? (11:09) EC states that people think too deploy about their diets and the "changes" that happen to them when we eat healthier. People focus on the details like oh I'm eating salmon now instead of chicken. Or I'm eating fewer tomatoes but more strawberries. These differences are minuscule and what is actually important is that people are eating less processed foods like ice-cream and chips. Diets contribute largely to overall health but for optimal results combine healthy eating habits with healthy life habits like family, community, and fitness It's healthier and easier to not go too extreme and rather moderate your intake of unhealthy foods instead of try and cut them out completely. People tend to follow popular trends instead of focusing on the actual research behind certain diets. Meat vs Plant-Based. (23:35) People are moving from saying Vegan due to the negative connotations it has gathered to saying plant-based. EC sees the plant-based as being an improvement on veganism. She doesn't believe that only plant-based nutrition is necessary for optimal health. EC recommends animal sources due to the lower calorie to protein intake than plant-based protein. Plant-based proteins have people eating too many carbs and fat to reach their needed protein levels. Even if you choose supermarket meat that's probably been factory farmed, it is still healthier than eating processed foods like chips and pizza. EC states that it doesn't matter whether you buy pastured beef or factory-farmed beef if you're actively trying to be a healthier person you are saving on environmental and medical costs elsewhere. Life Stress and its impact on health. (32:23) EC states that life stress and some other psychological factors are as important as nutrition. When people are feeling less than optimal they generally look at correcting their diets because it seems within their control when stress isn't. She points out in her Blue Zones that when you start asking which protein powder is better, it's laughable because 6 out of the 9 factors people use to reach 100 have nothing to do with nutrition. If we build our bodies up to be resilient with certain nutrition programs we have more freedom within our lives. People need to focus on the big picture more instead of all the smaller details. Don't be obsessive about every little aspect and ingredient of your diet and workout and rather use that energy to right other factors in your life, like getting enough sleep. Start simple, get intricate. (39:21) EC thinks focusing on the bigger picture, like eating 800g a day, and getting that right first is very important before going into the intricate details. People struggle the most with the consistency of it. It's a lifestyle change, its how you choose to live your life for forever. She offers her clients a leaderboard where people can check in on four things a day; did they hit their protein target? Did they hit their fruits and vegetables? Did they exercise? Did they sleep enough? You need less precision than most people think, it's just that you need to keep doing them in the long term. EC's Company OptomiseMe Nutrition OptimiseMe Nutrition is a company dedicated to making nutrition easy through B2B/B2C digital education and corporate wellness programs. Their mission is to provide easy solutions for anyone to improve their weight, health, and overall wellbeing with sustainable diet changes. They have helped thousands to live a healthier and happier life. Resources Connect with EC: LinkedIn Check Out OptimiseMe Nutrition's Website: Website Connect with Eric: LinkedIn
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Sep 9, 2020 • 42min

The Best Hour of Their Day - Jason Ackerman

Jason Ackerman finished his Psychology masters in 2006. After graduating, he realized that he needed to find a 'real' job, something different from where he would be stuck in a gym for 16 hours a day and ending up with no energy. Jason decided to become a Crossfit coach and is one the founders of Own Your Eating. He is also the author of the book titled "Best Hour of Their Day." How does Jason feel about the CrossFit community right now?? Jason believes CrossFit is in the right place. The community went through difficult times, but they pulled together and came out stronger. He also believes Crossfit will continue to grow, and it is headed in a positive direction. How does he see CrossFit changing over the next year? Jason believes there will be more communication from the top, more events, and more activity. There will be a push to a digital route, such as virtual workouts or a CrossFit app that people can use at home. Jason is teaching people to work with failure. What exactly is he working on? For many people, it is not all about training.t is more focused on what they are eating. The focus of Jason's training is on their mindset and the emotions behind that. People often try to hide their failures. Go onto social media, and you'll see that people portray all the good and none of the bad. Jason says that there is a gap between people's lack of speaking about their failures and their method to overcome it. He wants to show people that you can overcome it. How does Jason's relationship with failure look, and how it has changed over the last three years? He used to be afraid of failure. He viewed it as the end, with the worst-case scenarios attached to failure. We need to realize that you can do something to change and alter the course with every step of the way and prevent failure. Jason has gone through many failures and has come up with three actions to help avoid failure. An excellent example of a company that could have tried to overcome failure was Blockbusters; with the introduction of streaming apps, they closed down. There were a gap and an option for them to make different decisions and succeed, and individuals face similar situations. What is an example of where Jason failed, that led to something better because he changed his mindset about failure? Jason says it would be something that he innovated or pivoted. Innovation wise, he was going through a burnout with his clients and barely made ends meet. He was in the gym for 16 hours a day; some hours, he had clients, and other times he had none. Quitting the fitness industry was firm in his mind; it was 2006. He had just finished his Masters in Psychology but did not want to go into that direction, so he saw a gap and opportunity to get into and instruct Crossfit. Resources: Instagram: @thejasonackerman Instagram: @ownyoureating Linketree: Jason Ackerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonackerman78/
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Sep 2, 2020 • 45min

Active Life & The Evolutions from Fitness To Health Profession - Dr. Sean Pastuch

Dr. Sean Pastuch is an entrepreneur, coach, medical professional, and is leading a tribe. He has hit a lot of adversity through the process but has managed to work through it and create Active Life Professional. Dr. Pastuch now focuses all his time, effort, and energy on being an entrepreneur. A year ago, he had 18 members on his team, but he now has 41 people helping him reach for success. What are the rules of 3's and 10's? This is a business rule that every time your revenue starts with either a three or a 10, it is time to change your entire business - if you are making $100,000 a year, but you want to make $300,000 a year, you will need to change some things. Things will need to change, from who your clients are, how you find them, what you're charging, and anything else that needs to be altered for you to reach the next three or ten. Can you describe your business's qualities from two months ago and then explain what you are working towards two months from now? What does that transition look like? Dr. Pastuch says two months before this recording; they were willing to take on whatever punches that were going to be thrown their way and take any challenge head-on. The business is now moving more towards martial artistry, where everything happens on purpose and through patterns, which ensures there are reasonable next steps to take. They had to build a corporate structure because there was a lack of accountability and responsibility. After someone goes through your pro-coach program, how do they start those relationships with the medical profession? Are you helping them facilitate that? Dr. Pastuch helps people by giving them a vocabulary that is backed by substance and is working towards bridging the gap better in the future. Dr. Pastuch had a client that was in a coma and lost 80lbs, he came to Dr.Pastuch to help return him to his former body and increase his muscle mass. Dr.Pastuch then wanted to speak to every doctor that worked with his client, and together they worked together for a year. How do you think the fitness industry is going to change over the next year? Dr. Pastuch hopes that a year from now, hobbyists in the fitness space will be worked out because they are not professional trainers. Professional trainers realize the way they work needs to change. The people who have the most skills with marketing and sales will win, and it might not have anything to do with their ability to coach. There may be many professionals that will be left out because they refused to learn those skills. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-pastuch-02ba88109/ Instagram: @drseanpastuch @ActiveLifeRx, @ActiveLifeProfessional Websites: Active Life Professional
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Aug 26, 2020 • 42min

9Rounds Keeps Kicking - Shannon Hudson

Shannon Hudson grew up in the Martial Arts Industry. As a child, he picked up amateur boxing and kickboxing and did Karate tournaments, which led to a professional career in 2003 as a kickboxer and boxer. He got the opportunity to fight on Chuck Norris's World Combat League in 2003. Hudson has managed to fight all over, he has fought in France, the US, and Switzerland. In 2011 he received an opportunity to fight for the IPF World Title, where he won the title. His experience and love for Martial Arts led him to open 9Rounds. What do you think attributed to that fast growth - when you got 100 members in 30 days - to? There is no class time tied to the classes, so the members can never be late. They can just come in and get started in a class when they have time. Each session is a full-body workout in 30 minutes. The workouts change every single day, this meant members did not do the same thing every time they came in. People enjoy having someone there to instruct them and help them through the sessions. Do you think there is a flip side to this model - some challenges that come along with it? Hudson says that there are definitely a few challenges that they face with this model, during COVID they had to switch to a schedule to keep the capacity low. Everyday Hudson comes across complaints surrounding the introduction of the schedule, people are not happy about scheduling. What was your mindset to approaching 9Rounds and building it from a bootstrap method? Hudson says when they reached 40 locations, they took on a partner and a minority partner. Big mistake entrepreneurs have the tendency to do is to try to raise capital too early, instead, they should be disciplined with the money and grow their business through that. Hudson says that the difficult times they went through living on a budget taught him valuable lessons that he would not replace for anything. How many locations do you have globally now? 9Rounds has 750 locations across 19 countries. What markets have you picked up growth on that you did not see coming? Hudson says that Saudi Arabia and the Middle East locations were the most surprising to him. There are locations in Middle Eastern places that have 600 members. What has been one of the more challenging markets for you? Japan was found to be difficult as most people do not speak English, the culture is very respectful and conservative. Opening locations in Japan were slower than anticipated. Are there any competitors you run into the most? Secondary competitors are Orangetheory and F45 - which are growing rapidly. Primary competitors to Hudson would be anyone that punches and kicks for fitness. Mayweather Boxing, Title Boxing, iLoveKickboxing, and Beachbody are amongst the names Hudson keeps his eyes on. What are the dimensions you are looking for space-wise? 1200 - 1500 square feet is the desired size, the room needs to be controllable. These dimensions make it possible to keep sessions intimate. How do you put people through on ramping so they can get to workouts? 9Rounds created an online training system that has a test behind it, it is over 6 hours of training modules to get a trainer certified by brand standards. 9Rounds has taken their Kickboxing program and have turned that into an accredited course. How are you adjusting and coping with COVID? Hudson found the transition to be challenging but believes it ultimately brought people closer. The crisis forced 9Rounds to think about the different types of customers in the marketplace - the old fashioned, the homebody, and the retail customer. The business model had to be shifted to accommodate these customers and shifted to an online program - with over 140 filmed. 9Rounds' goal is to get more people, and helping all three types of customers. Are you looking at any solutions to how people may get equipment at home? There is a shortage of kettlebells, but not boxing gloves, 9Rounds is looking at designing a workout bag for home. Hudson says the required equipment is not disrupted for them. How do you think the fitness industry will be different with this new normal? Hudson believes that 20 - 25% will not reopen, 9Rounds has even lost a few locations. The offerings to consumers will be different, catering to a wider variety of customers. What has been one of the biggest personal challenges you face as an entrepreneur? There are not many people Hudson finds that thinks as he does, therefore it can be lonely. Poor communication is a big cause of Hudsons challenges. What is one of the biggest needs do you have as a business right now? Hudson is in the search for talented executives. A new VP of ops is desired. Are there any last thoughts you would like to share with the audience? Being an entrepreneur can be very stressful. Go and move around, exercise, change your state physically. Resources: Website: 9round LinkedIn: Shannon Hudson Facebook: 9Round Fitness
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Aug 19, 2020 • 42min

Focus on Quality in The New Digital Age - Fabio Zonin

Fabio Zonin is a StrongFirst Certified Instructor. He is a former powerlifter, natural bodybuilder, and the owner of fitness centers. He has authored many articles for Italian popular magazines and websites that are dedicated to fitness, bodybuilding, and strength. How have things been in Italy over the last 90 days for you? Fabio says that it is getting better in Italy. Italy did not have the experience to deal with the COVID. Italy is open again, however, they do have their rules with social distancing, sanitization, and masks. Within the organization of Strong First, you have been evolving and shifting as well, can you give us some insights into some updates on that? How are you working out Strong First now? Strong First is a company that is based on live events, and the events were often rescheduled or canceled, it was difficult in the beginning. Managing events were not easy, so Strong First worked on creating a stronger online presence to help their customers to stay strong at home. Strong First turned some of their in-person events into online live events. Strong First sees their events becoming smaller. Does Strong First have first branded gyms or studious? Strong First has gyms that have specific requirements. It needs to have certified instructors. Strong First reached over 50 gyms and then COVID occurred, it will take a few months before they start creating and reopening gyms. How many certified coaches does Strong First have? What are some of the numbers you guys have as far as your community? Strong First has 4000 instructors worldwide in over 50 countries. Coaches need to recertify every 2 years, and Elite Instructors need to recertify every 3 years. Strong First had to give extended recertification dates for coaches due to COVID. Pablo was on the Joe Rogan podcast. How did that affect the community? Do you see any traction? How did that affect the community? What was the result of that? It increased traction, from people who did not know who Strong First was. Pablo is a natural-born leader, and it was a great podcast. The podcast piqued interest from outsiders and was great for the community. Is there any particular technology that you guys are looking at right now to kind of step into the next evolution fo what this industry may look like? Strong First is looking int a training app and a streaming system for online training to provide a window to our instructors to be seen. Technology and going online will help people be coached by different people and in different countries. It can be difficult finding a trainer that fits your time but using different times zones can change this. How do you think the fitness industry is going to be fundamentally different? Zonin is concerned that going too fast into going online may affect quality. Zonin has been basing a lot of his feedback on his online sessions on the feedback using people's faces, and the transition to online made it difficult to see how people reacted. When COVID started, a lot of people turned to be an online presenter, you need to learn how to present in front of a camera and the way you teach. So many social media gifts did not give away quality workouts, the student has no idea how to figure out what is good or what is bad. Resources: Email: contact@fabiosowning.com Website: Strong First Website
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Aug 12, 2020 • 42min

MyZone & The Tingle In the Toothpaste - Emmett Williams

Emmet Williams came into My Zone with his partner Dave Wright in between 2010 and 2011. The two had been introduced to heart rate monitoring technology and wanted to use that to be an accurate representation and motivator for customers' fitness and health. How did you end up with My Zone? It began in the Fitness Industry with a marketing company called Creative Fitness Marketing, it was based in America, New Zealand, Australia, and the UK. When Williams was based in Australia, he took equities within that business, when he was 26 years old, and grew it. Williams came into My Zone in 2010/2011 and had a network established around the industry. Williams's partner, Dave Wright, looked at the heartrate products, which caused Williams to look at it from a genuine perspective. Williams and Wright believed that using this technology would help drive engagement and that would drive retention. The experience of William and Wright managed to apply this concept better than the new technology that was arising in the market. My Zone is a combination of both hardware and software, is that right? It is a mix of hardware - being a heart rate belt, and monitor - as well as software - which includes club display and the smartphone app. The goal is to make the client feel good and keep them motivated. The sense of achievement that comes along with this practice is what keeps the client interested. There is a leaderboard on My Zone that helps build a sense of community. Is there any functional fitness or how are you guys applying this to other models? Besides spinning and cycling. Heart rate has been attached to cycling for a long time, and My Zone took into consideration the science and the simplicity of the concept and incorporated that. My Zone aspired to build a point system that is perfect for the gym industry. My Zone looks at your fitness level - such as a gold handicap - which democratized exorcise. It removes who the fittest person is in the room, and levels the exercising in the glass. Each person practices in their fitness level. It does not matter what exercise you are doing, as long as you are doing some form of exercise. When a consumer buys it, is it part of their gym membership? Can they buy it independently? My Zones business model is selling to the gym operator, but the waistband can be bought on Amazon. Are there any new metrics that you are looking into? Heart rate viability is an interesting way to go, but it can be a challenge, and My Zone is not delving into that. They are looking at their heart rate recovery, which will portray how healthy your cardiovascular system is. Heart rate recovery can predict your fitness age and your mortality rate by seeing how healthy the metrics are, and they will be clinically proven to be accurate. How is your company building that gamification and community in this new hybrid world we're in? Williams believes that it all begins with strategy and the operative system. My Zone encourages half-year huddles, which is to review the mid-year mark, and they ask the operators what their strategy is. Often times, they do not have a response to that, which is okay. They teach them a practice that helps establish a strategy to help figure out where they would like to go with the year going forward, and finding your anchors. My Zone is a good fit if one of your anchors is a community, results, and sustainability. It gives you a goal and a status ranking. My Zone strives to position itself as an authority to bring rewards and community to the customers. What are some of the biggest challenges you are facing now as an organization? My Zone came into this year with a growth plan and took their existing products and new services into consideration, but that was turned over due to COVID. They want to focus on their existing customers and want to help to reboot them before they concentrate on growth. My Zone has a few products such as the mZ remote, as well as the patented fitness the releasing in the Fall (2020). My Zone expanded into Germany and Singapore, and are looking forward to spending more time at improving there. Are there any kind of strategic partnerships or collaborations you guys are looking for? My Zones API goes out to many vendors and is very happy to show their data. My Zone has a very open mind when it comes to new technologies. Is there anything you are reading right now that you would recommend to the audience? Steve Schwarzman - What it takes: Lessons in Pursuit of success. Matthew Syed - The power of diverse thinking. Sean Ellis - Hacking Growth. Resources: Website: myzone.org Emmet Williams Email: ew@myzone.org

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