

PRETEND
Creative Babble, LLC
PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web.
Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons.
PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling.
Featured in lists of the best podcasts about con artists and scams, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.
PRETEND is produced by Creative Babble, LLC.
© 2025 Creative Babble LLC
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Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons.
PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling.
Featured in lists of the best podcasts about con artists and scams, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.
PRETEND is produced by Creative Babble, LLC.
© 2025 Creative Babble LLC
[CLAIM:B6BT3XC4]
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Apr 8, 2025 • 51min
2013: I Married a Narcissist part 3
Trigger warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of emotional, financial, sexual, and physical abuse. Listener discretion is strongly advised. When Lindsay first met him, he was charming, successful, and convincing—a financial advisor with all the right answers. What started as a storybook marriage quickly spiraled into a nightmare of manipulation, gaslighting, and escalating violence. In this episode of PRETEND, Lindsay opens up for the first time in a raw, unfiltered conversation. She walks us through the early warning signs she missed, the love bombing tactics used to win her over, and the slow, calculated process of control that followed.💬 If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, help is available. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-7233 or visit thehotline.org. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 1, 2025 • 15min
2012: I Married a Narcissist part 2 Listener Reactions
After publishing the story of a woman trapped in a marriage with a narcissist, I wasn't sure how it would land. It wasn’t flashy. It didn’t end in violence or arrest. But the response was overwhelming. Listeners wrote in to say, “That was me.” Some still carry the trauma years later. Others are just now realizing what they went through was abuse. In this episode, we hear from listeners who saw their own relationships reflected in Ashley’s story. We also speak with criminal behavior analyst Laura Richards to understand how abuse often hides in plain sight—through gaslighting, coercive control, and emotional manipulation. And we ask: what happens when the narcissist isn’t a partner—but a parent? Or when the survivor is a man? This bonus episode is about the quiet kind of abuse—the kind people are afraid to talk about but desperately need to hear.🔊 Featuring: Laura Richards and listeners who bravely shared their experiences⚠️ Trigger warning: discussions of abuse, addiction, and coercive control🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:
Love-bombing followed by emotional withdrawal or cruelty
Gaslighting: making you doubt your memory, emotions, or reality
Blaming you for their self-harm threats or emotional instability
Constant criticism or belittling over mundane issues
Financial control or sabotage
Isolating you from family or friends
Guilt-tripping, triangulation, or passive-aggressive threats
Refusing accountability or twisting facts during arguments
📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:
National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — 24/7, free, confidential
Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com
SAMHSA National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357) – for substance abuse and mental health support
Domestic Shelters: domesticshelters.org – helps identify resources near you
One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – for navigating high-conflict custody and divorce
Love is Respect: loveisrespect.org – support for young people in abusive relationships
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Mar 25, 2025 • 55min
2011: I Married a Narcissist part 1
In this episode of PRETEND, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker.Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim.This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on PRETEND—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like.🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:
Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice)
Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty
Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions
Isolation from friends, family, or support systems
Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off
Financial control or sabotage
Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior
Alternating between praise and punishment
Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children
📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:
National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — Free, confidential, 24/7
Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA) Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support: DomesticShelters.org – Includes emotional abuse filters
One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – Focused on divorcing narcissists and protecting children
Love is Respect (for younger listeners): loveisrespect.org
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Mar 21, 2025 • 34min
2010: The Keepsake Scandal
It started with a missing breast milk keepsake. But when Cheyna Lee joined an online group of frustrated customers, she uncovered something much bigger—hundreds of victims, stolen mementos, and a scam artist hiding in plain sight. This is the story of Destiny Magoon, a small business owner who promised sentimental jewelry made from ashes, hair, and even breast milk—but left heartbreak in her wake. What followed was an online investigation that played out like a true crime documentary, exposing fraud, deception, and a woman willing to do anything to cover her tracks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 11, 2025 • 41min
2009: The Gambler Revisited
Episode Summary:While working on the new season of Pretend, I wanted to bring back an episode from 2018 that’s worth another listen. It’s the story of Art Schlichter, a former Ohio State football star whose gambling addiction wrecked his life—and the lives of others. One of those people was Anita Barney, the widow of a Wendy’s CEO, who lost everything after trusting the wrong person.This isn’t just a story about gambling. It’s about how someone can slowly gain control over another person’s life and bank account, one small ask at a time.Topics Covered:✔ How Art Schlichter went from an NFL draft pick to a convicted con artist✔ The way he pulled Anita Barney into his schemes✔ How quickly financial fraud can spiral out of controlResources & Links:📖 Quarterback Sneak – Anita Barney’s book about what happened📌 Follow Pretend on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/📌 Join our Facebook groupHave a Story to Share?If someone you trusted took advantage of you, I’d like to hear your story. Send a voice memo to Javier@pretendradio.org.💡 Rate & Review! If you liked this episode, leave a review and share Pretend with a friend.🎧 Subscribe & Stay Tuned – More episodes coming soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 4, 2025 • 32min
2008: Licensed to Kill part 2
n part two of Licensed to Kill, we continue the shocking investigation into doctors who exploit their patients for profit. This episode follows Patty Hester, a fitness instructor who was misdiagnosed with a rare blood cancer and nearly subjected to years of unnecessary chemotherapy—all at the hands of Dr. Farid Fata, a Michigan oncologist who built his fortune by treating healthy patients for diseases they never had.But Fata isn’t alone. Across the country, doctors like Thomas Weiner, Ian Paterson, and Javaid Perwaiz have betrayed their patients, mutilated bodies, and destroyed lives—all under the guise of medical care. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 25, 2025 • 42min
2007: Licensed to Kill part 1
What if your doctor wasn’t trying to save you, but trying to cash in on you?In this episode of Pretend, we uncover the shocking case of Dr. Thomas Weiner, an oncologist accused of prescribing years of brutal chemotherapy treatments to patients who may not have even had cancer.We follow the story of Scott Warwick, a man who was told he had stage 4 lung cancer and endured 11 years of toxic treatments—only to later learn there was no biopsy confirming his diagnosis. When Dr. Randy Sasich, a pulmonary critical care specialist, began questioning Weiner’s practices, he faced pushback, intimidation, and threats.But Weiner’s case isn’t unique. Across the country, doctors like Farid Fata, Jorge Zamora-Quezada, and Michael Swango have been caught exploiting patients for profit, exposing just how broken the U.S. healthcare system truly is.In this episode, we dive into:✔️ How financial incentives reward doctors for prescribing unnecessary treatments✔️ The loopholes in insurance billing that allow fraud to go undetected for years✔️ The whistleblower who risked everything to expose the truth✔️ The cult-like following that still defends Dr. Weiner🔍 Sources & Additional Reading:
ProPublica’s Investigative Report: "Eat What You Kill" :https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology🎧 Next Time on Pretend:Meet a patient who underwent three years of cancer treatments—for cancer she never had.🔔 Subscribe on Patreon or Pretend Plus for early access to Part 2:Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradioPRETEND+ on Apple Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985📢 Follow us: @PretendPod on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook💬 Have thoughts on this episode? Leave a review or send us a message—we’d love to hear from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 19, 2025 • 50min
2006: Operation Cock Block
A group of women, all with eerily similar stories, say they were deceived—emotionally and financially—by the same man: William Sullivan. But instead of staying silent, they took matters into their own hands. They formed Operation Cock Block, a coordinated effort to expose what they claim were Sullivan’s deceptive tactics and warn others before they fell victim. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 11, 2025 • 37min
2005: The Telepathy Tapes B-side part 3
Facilitated Communication is marketed as a miraculous tool for non-speaking autistic children. But what happens when this controversial method leads to devastating consequences? In this episode, we hear from Kevin Plantin, a father who was falsely accused of assault based solely on messages typed with the help of a facilitator.Despite the evidence, some courts and institutions still give FC credibility—with tragic consequences.In this episode, Kevin Plantan recounts how a letter typed via FC led to his wrongful imprisonment for 10 months on charges of sexual assault. We also revisit the story of Janyce Boynton, a former FC facilitator who now warns against the practice after witnessing its harmful effects firsthand.Featured guests in this episode:Kevin Plantin: Sharing his personal story of wrongful imprisonment.Janyce Boynton: Former FC facilitator and advocate against the practice.Additional Resources:
Learn more about Facilitated Communication: https://www.facilitatedcommunication.org/
Read about Syracuse University's involvement with FC: https://dailyorange.com/2024/02/mixed-messages-how-facilitated-communication-persists-at-su/
Prisoners of Silence documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMn_sDCFAuI
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Feb 4, 2025 • 48min
2004: The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 2
A mother kills her autistic son. Why? Because he asked her to.The mother claims he used facilitated communication to ask her to help him die. This case is just one of many tied to the controversial method that claims to give a voice to non-speaking autistic individuals. But what if the voice wasn’t theirs at all?Share Your Thoughts:Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.Resources Mentioned:➜ Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe➜ Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.https://www.theamericansaga.com/ ➜ Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064Stay Connected:Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


