Sources & Methods

Aya Batrawy, NPR's Gulf Bureau correspondent, provides in-depth analysis of Saudi Arabia, while Greg Myre covers U.S. national security and foreign policy. They delve into the complexities of U.S.-Saudi relations under Trump, exploring MBS's investments and the strategic reasons for their alliance. The conversation also addresses the impact of recent events in Gaza, challenges in demilitarization, and MBS's controversial reforms at home. Their insights illuminate the delicate balance of power and interests shaping the region's future.

In this engaging discussion, national security correspondent Greg Myre and Moscow bureau chief Charles Maines delve into Trump’s unpredictable foreign policy. Myre highlights the contrast between Trump’s withdrawal promises and recent military actions, while also celebrating his diplomatic successes, like the Abraham Accords. Maines explores Trump's complex relationship with Russia and his fascination with authoritarian leaders. The dialogue even touches on the potential for a new arms race, fueled by nuclear testing rhetoric from both sides.

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists Carol Leonnig and Aaron C. Davis dive into their book, exposing the slow response of the Department of Justice to Trump's election interference attempts. They share how they secured insider insights by appealing to a sense of duty. Surprising findings are revealed, including the delayed investigations and challenges faced by Jack Smith. The duo discusses the impact of a weakened DOJ on national security and rule of law, emphasizing the continued perseverance of local U.S. attorneys despite overarching concerns.

Odette Youssef, a national security correspondent focused on domestic extremism, joins Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman in a compelling discussion about the implications of extremism within American politics. They examine Tucker Carlson's controversial interview with Nick Fuentes and its role in deepening GOP divides. Youssef emphasizes how extremist rhetoric threatens democracy and national security. Bowman reflects on Dick Cheney's legacy in the Iraq War, linking past strategies to contemporary U.S. military postures, including actions near Venezuela.

Deepa Shivaram, a White House correspondent for NPR covering East Asia, and Tom Bowman, NPR's Pentagon correspondent, delve into U.S.-China relations and military operations. They discuss President Trump's mixed achievements during his Asia trip, the implications of de-escalating trade tensions, and the looming deadlines for U.S. naval operations targeting drug smugglers. The duo also explores the complexities of U.S. foreign policy regarding North Korea and how military funding may be affected by government shutdowns.

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