The Vitalist

Dr. Keiko Finnegan & Dr. Sera Sheppard
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Jun 4, 2025 • 28min

Your Ring Isn't Smarter Than You: Dr. Jen Huberty on Intuition, Hormones & Health (004)

Just because your tracker says it, doesn't mean your body agrees. Dr. Jen Huberty reminds us: intuition is data too. What if the key to better health isn't another wearable, protocol, or "science-backed" trend, but learning to trust your inner wisdom? In this eye-opening episode, we sit down with Dr. Jen Huberty, behavioral research scientist, former Head of Science at Calm, and founder of Fit Minded, to explore the intersection of science, self-worth, and spirituality. With over 190 peer-reviewed publications and $10M+ in research funding under her belt, Dr. Jen's insights are as rigorous as they are refreshingly human. Highlights Is tracking helping or hurting your mental health? (1:53) Your ring says you slept badly, but you feel rested. Who do you trust? (2:44) The only meditation app Dr. Jen still uses and how she uses it differently. (3:19) Does waking up to a "bad" sleep score have a psychological impact? (3:36) Spirituality vs. Science? Why Dr. Jen believes we need both. (4:33) Why personalized health decisions must go beyond the research to consider your genetics, preferences, and intuition. (5:36) A powerful lesson from her 12-year-old on how to build habits that actually last. (6:46) How to spot real science vs. BS in wellness products. (8:13) Her unfiltered take on GLP-1 weight loss drugs and why it feels like déjà vu from the 80s. (9:08) What's actually stopping people from lasting changing? (10:42) Dr. Jen's early research revealed a missing link in most wellness approaches: emotional, social, and intellectual self-worth. (11:05) A book club that changed women's health, without ever talking about weight. (13:21) How personal tragedy led Jen to yoga and meditation. (14:28) Dr. Jen's personal experience navigating hormones, supplements, sleep, and learning to trust her body through perimenopause. (16:45) What Dr. Jen has learned from 250+ digital health companies. (18:23) Why daily meditation might be overrated, according to science. (19:06) What's the minimum effective dose for meditation? (20:06) Dr. Jen shares how folding laundry or doing dishes can be a powerful practice—if you're aware. (21:32) From yoga to private meditation teachers, how Dr. Jen's practice has evolved over time. (22:04) The 2 most powerful tools for lasting change: goals + asking for help. (23:25) The communication tool that helps you actually get the support you need. (25:11) The question that keeps Dr. Jen up at night and why you should ask it too. (26:34)   Resources:  Dr. Jen Huberty on LinkedIn Fit-Minded.com Insight Timer App MyFitnessPal  Flow App I Feel Bad About My Neck by Nora Ephron    Never miss an episode. Subscribe to get notified about what's coming next. Follow us @TheVitalistPodcast www.TheVitalistPodcast.com Visit us @KinfolkOptimalLiving www.KinfolkOptimalLiving.com
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May 28, 2025 • 41min

The Science of Flower Essences and What Nature Knows That We Don't with Katie Hess - Ep 003

In this episode of The Vitalist, we're joined by Katie Hess—flower alchemist and founder of LOTUSWEI—for a rich conversation about the subtle yet powerful world of flower essences. We explore what flower essences are, the science behind the intelligence of plants, and how flowers communicate with us, often beneath the threshold of our awareness. Katie shares how nature speaks in quiet, potent ways, inviting us to slow down, tune in, and access our deepest gifts. This episode is a call to remember our connection to the natural world and to let it guide us back to our own innate wisdom. Use code THEVITALIST for 10% off your first order at LOTUSWEI HIGHLIGHTS: When she met her mentor, he shared two transformative truths. (2:15)  "If 3% of the world took flower essences, it would change the future of this planet." (2:25) Dandelions aren't weeds, they are medicine. A reminder that nature often gives us exactly what we need, right when we need it. (3:13) The difference between herbs, essential oils, and flower essences. (4:40) How flowers express themselves as crystals in water. (7:21) The unseen ways flowers communicate with us, down to the electrical charges bees detect. (8:51) The emotional uses of each flower. (9:41) Collecting flower essences blends science, spirit and deep intentionality (10:37) Indigenous people communicated to plants, altering their chemistry within 24 hours. (11:13) The go-to flower essence for stress, overwhelm, and burnout. (13:13) Flower essences clear up to 7 generations of inherited, acquired and collective patterns. (14:48) Flower essences create a 3 second delay to process emotional triggers. (19:42) Personal client transformations using flower essences. (21:48) Katie does a live flower card reading for Dr. Keiko. (22:39) The essential oils to pair with the flower essences. (26:45) The Flower Revolution program that Katie uses for personal growth. (26:45) Flower essences are our only bioenergetic tool for healing. (30:24) The science of energy transfer and how flower essences ripple through families. (32:02) The crystals in our bodies magnify the flower vibration. (33:04) The flower Katie is still looking for. (34:38) The research of Cleve Backster and how plants can feel and respond to your intentions. (43:19) A closing invitation to remember the gifts within, and how we can use flower essences to grow and evolve. (46:21)   RESOURCES: LOTUSWEI - use code THEVITALIST for 10% off your first order San Center in Phoenix @iamkatiehess @lotuswei @sancenterphx Flowerevolution book by Katie Hess Stephen Harrod Buhner Flower Revolution Program - LOTUSWEI Dr. Masaru Emoto - Hidden Messages in Water Cleve Backster   Never miss an episode. Subscribe to get notified about what's coming next. Follow us @TheVitalistPodcast www.TheVitalistPodcast.com Visit us @KinfolkOptimalLiving www.KinfolkOptimalLiving.com
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May 21, 2025 • 44min

The New Blood Test Is in Your Mouth: Flying, Stress, and the Secret Language of Saliva with Dr. Patti Milligan - Ep 002

What if the key to understanding your health, mood, and even how well you age can be measured in your saliva? In this fascinating episode, we're joined by the brilliant Dr. Patti Milligan, a pioneer in the field of salivary science. Dr. Patti unpacks the groundbreaking world of saliva research.  Join us as we cover how emotional states change your saliva composition and how it can help diagnose diseases years before symptoms arise. You'll learn how air travel impacts your nervous system, and more importantly what you can do to support your body to mitigate jet lag.  Plus, practical tips on foods and movements to boost nitric oxide and saliva production. HIGHLIGHTS How saliva shifts with emotion — 42 types tied to your nervous system! (3:33) Saliva's  4 Superpowers: digestion, disease detection, nutrient levels, and immune defense. (4:38) Saliva can spot disease years ahead — including heart, inflammation & even breast cancer. (5:42) How one child reversed "failure to thrive" just by boosting saliva. (9:02) Low saliva = choking risk for elders — and why it's more common than you think. (12:17) What your saliva says about your nervous system (14:39) How much saliva you produce every year (16:21) How goji berries and lemon drops help children emotionally reset. (17:11) The top foods that stimulate saliva naturally. (20:02) A simple 4-move tongue routine to boost your saliva flow. (24:19) How driving and flying suppress saliva—and what to do about it. (28:23) The Renewal Kit: The 3 ingredients that protect your body mid-flight. (32:18) The two groups leading the saliva research frontier (37:21) Easy ways to measure salivary biomarkers like nitric oxide. (38:16) Boost Your Longevity in 4 Minutes; Dr. Zach Bush's movement hack to elevate nitric oxide fast. (41:13)   RESOURCES AND LINKS Patti Milligan  Patti Milligan TedX "Your Saliva is Talking to You. Listen!" Renewal Kit for Travelers Everlywell Saliva Testing Dr. Zach Bush's Nitric Oxide Movement HumanN Dr. Paul Slowey Institute for Interdisciplinary Salivary Bioscience Research   Never miss an episode. Subscribe to get notified about what's coming next. Follow us @TheVitalistPodcast www.TheVitalistPodcast.com Visit us @KinfolkOptimalLiving www.KinfolkOptimalLiving.com
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May 7, 2025 • 55min

From Setback to Strength: Coach Dar on Turning Pain into Purpose - Ep 001

Dr. Keiko sits down with powerhouse leadership coach and mental skills expert Darlene Santore—known as Coach Dar (@thecoachdar)—for a deep and uplifting conversation on resilience, purpose, and what it really takes to bounce back from life's hardest moments. From working with elite athletes and CEOs to surviving three strokes, Coach Dar brings real, raw wisdom on mental fortitude and the art of rewriting your story when life knocks you down. Her new book, The Art of Bouncing Back, is a call to action for anyone ready to rise stronger—not in spite of challenges, but because of them. HIGHLIGHTS What it means to be "licensed to rise" after setbacks (5:61) Why adversity isn't a punishment—it's preparation (8:21) Finding your "flow state" and working in your genius zone (13:57) Coach Dar shares her mentor Laurie Beth Jones (14:02) Dar's ultimate game changer in life when things get tough (18:10) The moment Dar stopped looking for approval (22:40) Letting people off the train. Not everyone is meant to go the full ride with you. Letting them go is part of your growth. (24:15) Mental resilience starts by choosing hard over easy (24:56) There's no "right" way to grieve—just feel it, share it, and reframe it to keep moving forward. Grief is a personal journey (31:33) Dar reflects on giving a keynote less than 24 hours after watching her mother take her last breath—and how she channeled that pain into purpose. (32:28) Dar's micro moments to recharge her energy (40:48) Using stillness to discover your strengths (42:20) Coach Dar shares her mental reset rituals even while in your car and with animals –sometimes it's just the simple things that reset your soul. (42:57) How not to agree with everyone-it's about embracing differences and finding common ground through kindness. (45:22) Surprising an Uber driver with apple pie to encourage the importance of human connection. (44:56) This episode is for the visionaries, the high-performers, the healers, and anyone who's ever asked: Can I come back from this?  Coach Dar's answer? Yes. You're born to rise.   RESOURCES AND LINKS instagram.com/thecoachdar www.coachdar.com The Art of Bouncing Back   Never miss an episode. Subscribe to get notified about what's coming next. Follow us @TheVitalistPodcast www.TheVitalistPodcast.com Visit us @KinfolkOptimalLiving www.KinfolkOptimalLiving.com

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