

Talking Scared
Neil McRobert
Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.
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Mar 10, 2021 • 59min
29 – Angela Slatter and Kelpies not Selkies!!
Send us a textOnce upon a time in a land far, far away, there was a young woman, bad men, and some homicidal mermaids. It’s fairy tale time.Our guest is Angela Slatter, who’s new novel All the Murmuring Bones turns the fairy stories that comforted you as a child, into a horrid tale of murder, inheritance, death, sex and entrapment. In this world Hansel and Gretel would be a very tasty pie-filling. Angela has spent years studying the fairy tale tradition and turning it against her readers. All the Murmuring Bones is her first full length novel taking place in the dark world he has created. This conversation is half about her book, and half about the tradition as a whole. Think of it as a compact university course without the fees, the homework or the risk of STIs. We talk about the darker versions of old tales, why all fairytales seem inherently feminist, and why they are coming back into force. I also make a big mistake about mythical creatures that makes me sound more than a little creepy, until rectified. Enjoy!All the Murmuring Bones is published by Titan Books on March 9th in Australia and North America, and on March 29th in the UK.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Sourdough and other Stories (2010), by Angela Slatter
The Bitterwood Bible and Other Recountings (2014), by Angela Slatter
The Once and Future Witches (2020), by Alex Harrow
Kissing the Witch: Old Tales in New Skins (1993), by Emma Donoghue
The Bloody Chamber (1979), by Angela Carter
The Faery Handbag (2004), by Kelly Link
From the Beast to the Blond: On Fairy Tales and Their Tellers (1994), by Marina Warner
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Mar 3, 2021 • 1h 4min
28 – Bethany Clift and Judging an Apocalypse by its Cover
Send us a textIsolation is a bitch, but it could be worse!Our guest is Bethany Clift and her debut novel is Last One at the Party – a pandemic novel that reminds you that at least we have Netflix, facetime and the chance to call our friends. Beth’s novel follows an unnamed woman, the last survivor of a global plague that has emptied out the world in just a few weeks. As she struggles through the ruins of a posta-apocalyptic Britain, she also confronts the wreckage of her life in the ‘before times’. If that all sounds dreadfully grim, and not at all what you want to read in our current plight, then remember three things: 1) WE have a vaccine (and it’s working)2) This book is also laugh out loud hilarious3) There is a dog called Lucky that you will love with all your heart. Beth and I have a bit of laugh on this one – perhaps inappropriately so considering we’re discussing the end of the world – but we also cover what it’s like to actually write about Covid-19 in retrospect, why ‘stroking the dog’ is not a euphemism, but a very clever trick, and whether we still have space for apocalyptic glee in our reading.Forgive the title of the episode, all will make sense when you listen … and read the book.Enjoy! Last One at the Party was published in the UK by Hodder on 4th Feb 2021 and will be published in other territories soon.Other books discussed include:
The Stand (1978), by Stephen King
The Long Walk (1979), by Stephen King
I Am Legend (1954), by Richard Matheson
The Road (2006), by Cormac McCarthy
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Feb 24, 2021 • 59min
27 - Julia Fine and the Postmodern Postpartum
Send us a textIf you’ve been homeschooling, in labour, or generally responsible for the life of a small human during lockdown, then this episode is for you. There are people out there, writers with great skill and empathy, who share your pain, and know how you feel.This week’s guest is Julia Fine, the author of Bram Stoker Award Nominated What Should Be Wild, and now the postpartum nightmare, The Upstairs House.Julia’s novel is about new motherhood, societal expectation, the horror of lost self, and ghosts. Really weird ghosts, of literary figures who demand she write their story, or else they may take her child.During our conversation we cover a whole host of things, from the lack of literary representation for postpartum sufferers, to the haunting legacy of famous children’s authors … oh, and I also inadvertently compare Julia’s child to my puppy – and I await the rage of any listeners with a new baby. But yeah, this is a good book that raises a lot of questions, and a good chat that answers some of them really well.Enjoy!The Upstairs House is published on February 23rd by Harper.Other books discussed in this episode include:
The Bloody Chamber (1979), by Angela Carter
The Yellow Wallpaper (1892), by Charlotte Perkings Gilman
House of Leaves (2000), by Mark Z. Danielewski
Fever Dream (2014), by Samantha Schweblin
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Feb 17, 2021 • 1h
26 - Sarah Pearse and the Hills are Alive with the Sound of Murder
Send us a textHands up who wants a holiday! Sarah Pearse’s The Sanatorium could be just the thing to purge your lockdown travel desires. It will either transport you to the ice-white peaks of the Swiss Alps, to luxuriate in the views inside your mind. Or, it’ll make you never ever want to stay in a hotel again.The Sanatorium is Sarah’s debut thriller, a novel that sits uncomfortably (in the best possible way) between crime, mystery and horror – with a hospital-cum-hotel that would rank VERY low on TripAdvisor.Cleanliness = 5*Location = 5*Facilities = 5*Chance of survival = 1*Sarah and I discuss the tussle to define a debut novel, we share stories of living in Switzerland and ponder what it is about all that beauty that chills the bone, and we pick apart the comparisons to Stephen King and Agatha Christie.The Sanatorium is published Feb 2nd in North America by Pamela Dorman and Feb 18th 2021 in the UK, by Bantam Press.Stick around after the interview to hear all the big news about what’s coming to Talked Scared later this year. I’m excited, I hope you are.Enjoy! Books discussed in this episode include:
The Shining (1977), by Stephen King
The Little Stranger (2009), by Sarah Waters
Thin Air (2016), by Michelle Paver
Dark Matter (2010), by Michelle Paver
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Feb 10, 2021 • 1h 10min
25 - Gemma Files and the Witch in Her True Ornaments
Send us a textHave you ever had a book scare you so much that part of you wishes you hadn’t read it? That’s the experience I had reading Gemma Files’ latest collection, In That Endlessness, Our End. I don’t know how Gemma does it, but with each story she finds a psychological pressure point that feels specifically mine, and the presses down on it hard with her pen. On more than one occasion I had to stop reading this book because it freaked me out too much. And I mean that as the highest praise. In That Endlessness, Our End is full of stories of multimedia gone mad, sensory overload, mad gods and strange houses, and an alleyway that may take your child and give you something else in return. Gemma is a wealth of fact and opinion on horror. In our conversation we go deep, into the mechanics of horror writing as well as the inspiration behind some of the tales. We get into night terrors, how you evoke panic on the page, and how neurodiversity informs her unique brand of horror. But despite all this fear and intensity, we also have a good laugh. Gemma even takes the time to tell us as fairytale!!Enjoy!In That Endlessness, Our End is published by Grimscribe Press on 15th February 2021. Other books we mention include:
The Elementals (1981), by Michael McDowell
Ancient Images (1989), by Ramsey Campbell
Every House is Haunted (2013), by Ian Rogers
Burnt Black Suns (2014), by Simon Strantzas
Grotesquerie (2020), by Richard Gavin
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Feb 3, 2021 • 1h
24 - Courtney Summers and Writing for Spite
Send us a textWhen your guest calls herself the “Master of the Bitch” you do wonder what you’re getting into. Courtney Summers, by her own admission, wants to upset people. Yet she’s a delight! To kick of Women in Horror week we discuss her new novel, The Project, which follows a young woman as she investigates the New York based cult that has swallowed up her sister. This is FAR from your standard cult novel. As Courtney explains, she wanted to get away from the exploitation and the obvious horrors and instead consider why people search for belonging in such dark places, and whether we would be impervious to The Project’s allure. We also talk about her penchant for ‘unlikeable’ female protagonists, and whether there’s a double standard in how fiction treats challenging women. We celebrate Biden’s inauguration, I tell her about my worst ever spider encounter, and she takes me to school for dissing YA fiction. Enjoy!The Project was published by Wednesday Books on February 2nd 2021.Other books mentioned include:
Sadie (2018), by Courtney Summers
Redder Days (2021), by Sue Rainsford
The Children of Red Peak (2020), by Craig Di Louie
The Need (2019), by Helen Phillips
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Jan 27, 2021 • 56min
23 - Laura Purcell and the Art of Darkness
Send us a textLet’s get Gothic! Our guest this week is Laura Purcell, doyenne of the dark, heiress of historical fiction (and other alliterative titles). Laura blew away the cobwebs wrapped around spooky period fiction with her breakout smash, The Silent Companions in 2017. She followed up with The Corset and Bone China and now she’s back with her newest Gothic novel, The Shape of Darkness. The novel examines all the wrinkles and crannies in the Victorian underbelly, from spirit mediums, to mesmerism, and the uncanny art of silhouette portraits. Trust me, you’ll want one for yourself.We talk about the line between gothic and horror, why writing historical fiction can be a way to sneak your horror under the radar, and whether the stereotypes of the period make it frustrating to write about Victorian women. After all, how many times a day can a woman swoon?In an unrelated anecdote, Laura also divulges her secret terror of sloths. Oh, and I waffle on about the history of gothic fiction cos I just can’t resist lecturing people.Other books discussed include:
The Residence (2020), by Andrew Pyper
The Haunting of Alma Fielding (2020), by Andrew Pyper
Shadowland, or Light From the Other Side (1897), by Elizabeth d’Esperance
“The Blue Lenses,” in The Breaking Point (1959), by Daphne du Maurier
“The Mezzotint”, “A View From A Hill” and “Oh Whistle and I’ll Come To You My Lad”, found in The Collected Ghost Stories of M.R. James
Enjoy!The Shape of Darkness was published by Raven Books on January 21st 2021.Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com.Thanks to Adrian Flounders for graphic design.Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 20, 2021 • 1h 5min
22 – C.J. Tudor and the Lure of the Oddball Loners
Send us a textIn a week in which the White House becomes a little less orange, it’s hard to dwell on the nasty side of life. But this is Talking Scared and we can find the grim and creepy on even the most optimistic days.Our guest is C.J. Tudor – the current queen of the British thriller. She sits quite comfortably on the cusp of horror and crime, and we get into the subject of exactly where that borderline is. Her new novel, The Burning Girls continues her blending of the fast-paced American thriller, with the folk-tradition of the British horror story. A tale about a vicar, who moves with her daughter to a small Sussex town, with a terrible history of child sacrifice, and a more recent taste for murder and suicide – what’s not to like? C.J and I talk in depth about the perils of causing offence in your fiction, how to write a vicar protagonist, and what it felt like when Stephen King said he liked her book! Oh, and I may cause a bit of controversy when I give Kubrick’s adaption of The Shining a good kicking.The Burning Girls is published by Michael Joseph Books on January 21st 2021. Other books discussed include:
The Chalk Man (2018), by CJ Tudor
The Other People (2020), by CJ Tudor
The Seven Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle (2018), by Stuart Turton
The Last (2019), by Hanna Jameson
If It Bleeds (2020), by Stephen King
The Shining (1977), by Stephen King
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Jan 13, 2021 • 1h 1min
21 - Will Dean & The Horror of the Fens
Send us a textReady for the first GREAT book you’ll read this year? Our guest this week is Will Dean, calling all the way from the middle of a Scandinavian forest to talk about his new novel, The Last Thing To Burn.I’ve been banging on about this book since I read it in December. It’s a latter-day masterpiece, a read-in-one-sitting, this-has-to-be-a-movie kind of book. Think Misery, think Room and then think how much worse could the horrors be. The truth, a lot worse.Will and I talk about off-grid living, both his bucolic existence and his protagonist’s torment. We talk about the difference between writing the English and Swedish landscapes, and why the English fens are much scarier than the Scandi woods. We also talk about how you capture a monster’s voice, and whether you know you are going too far in a novel. It’s a great conversation, and you’ll end up inspired you to quit your job, build a house, and live in it! If you want advice on how to do it, or just to peer into his idyllic life, you can find Will on Youtube @ Will Dean Forest Author Along the way we discuss a range of classic novels, including:
Misery (1987), by Stephen King
On Writing (2000), by Stephen King
Room (2010), by Emma Donaghue
The Collector (1963), by John Fowles
The Road (2006), by Cormac McCarthy
Asylum (1996), by Patrick McGrath
Enjoy!Come talk books with us on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com.Thanks to Terry Smith Audio for sound editing and Adrian Flounders for graphic design.Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 6, 2021 • 30min
20 - The Big 2021 Horror Preview AKA Another Annus Horribilis
Send us a textI like this year better than last year already. Ok, we may be plunged back into lockdown 3.0 and it may be cold, and the cinemas may still be shut. But we have a vaccine, Trump looks like he’s got nappy rash … and there’s a whole year of horror fiction to look forward to. Unfortunately for you, there’s no guest this week. Instead, you’re stuck with me as I talk you through the highlights and predicted hits of horror fiction 2021. I’ve already read two books that are fighting their way into my ALL TIME BEST HORROR list, could there be more.We have new books from the likes of Grady Hendrix, Stephen Graham Jones, Christina Henry, Cassandra Khaw, Laura Purcell, Catriona Ward, Richard Chizmar, Zoje Stage, Zakiya Dalalila Harris, Chuck Wendig and more. Listen, consider, argue, rant, email me and tell me I’m wrong. But get ready to take the horror out of the nightly news and back into your bedtime reading.Enjoy!Come talk books with us on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com.Thanks to Terry Smith Audio for sound editing and Adrian Flounders for graphic design.Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices