

Talking Scared
Neil McRobert
Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.
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Nov 15, 2022 • 1h 7min
118 – Fiona Barnett & If You Go Down to the Woods Today
Send us a textIt’s coming home, it’s coming … horror’s coming home!Alright, no one panic – this isn’t about football. We’ll avoid that particular nightmare of human corruption and talk about something much more nourishing – the delights of British Folk Horror.Our guest is Fiona Barnett, and these days it’s seems like a mini-celebration everytime I have a fellow Brit on the show. Her debut novel The Dark Between the Trees is also quintessentially British, mired in the myth and lore and landscape of these sceptic isles. Her novel follows two groups into the cursed Moresby Woods. One is a group of soldiers from the 16th Century; the other is a research group in the present day. Neither expedition goes at all well…Amongst many things, Fiona and I talk about writing female groups, about propelling the plot in the face of paralysis weirdness, we discuss the nature of folktale and truth, and we look into the abyss of Deep Time.And in case that all sounds awfully hifalutin – I make sure to talk about monsters as much as I can. Though this week, I promise, there is no Bigfoot. Enjoy! The Dark Between the Trees was released on October 11th by SolarisOther books mentioned in this episode include:
Annihilation (2014), by Jeff VanderMeer
Mythago Wood (1984), by Robert Holdstock
Picnic at Hanging Rock (1967), by Joan Lindsey
Deep Time: A Literary History (2023), by Noah Heringman
Begars Abbey (2022), by V.L. Valentine
Lolly Willowes, or the Loving Huntsman (1926), by Sylvia Townsend Warner
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Nov 8, 2022 • 1h 9min
117 – Erika T. Wurth & Bigfoot in Your Dreams
Send us a textI don’t always talk about Bigfoot … but when I do it’s with the BEST people.Our guest this week is Erika T. Wurth, author, narrative artist and creative writing guru. She is of Apache/Chickasaw/Cherokee descent and she pours all of that skill and heritage into her new novel White Horse. It’s a tale of haunting, hard-living and violence, with a certain hairy indigenous monster that pops up in your dreams.This is NOT the Bigfoot that you expect, or want to meet. As well as that brief foray into hairy hominid lore (I restrained myself; you’re welcome), Erika and I also talk about the dreaded dream sequence, the German phenomenon of Sonder, the real Overlook hotel and Jack Kerouac, of all people.Enjoy!White Horse was released on November 1st by Flatiron BooksOther books mentioned in this episode include:
Buckskin Cocaine (2017), by Erika T. Wurth
Black Sun (2021), by Rebecca Roanhorse
Ghost Eaters (2022), by Clay McLeod Chapman
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Nov 1, 2022 • 1h 10min
116 – Brian McAuley & The Delights of Human Evisceration
Send us a textHalloween may be over but I trust you aren’t tired of horror? No? Good. ‘Cos this week’s guest packs a double-whammy – horror novels and horror movies all in one. Brian McAuley is a screenwriter and debut novelist. His first book, Curse of the Reaper is a behind-the-scenes look at how the horror movie sausage gets made, featuring the greatest slasher icon never to actually exist, and some of the best ‘bad’ scriptwriting you’ll ever read.Brian and I talk about Hollywood as a place of both cinematic and spiritual horror. We compare our favourite franchises and our love for Robert Englund. We discuss why the genre needs to remember to be fun, and how you can judge a lot from someone’s reaction to the latest Texas Chainsaw Massacre. All in all, it’s the perfect book for the day after Halloween – when we just need to keep the horror train rollin’Enjoy!Curse of the Reaper was released on October 4th by Talos Press.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Rootwork (2022), by Tracy Cross
Hollywood Monster: A Walk Down Elm Street With the Man of Your Dreams (2009), by Robert Englund and Alan Goldsher
The Dark Half (1989), by Stephen King
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Oct 25, 2022 • 1h 15min
115 – Andy Davidson & Ornate Maps of Hell
Send us a textThe last episode before Halloween and it’s suitably about my favourite book of the year: Andy Davidson’s The Hollow KindAndy is the Stoker-nominated author of In the Valley of the Sun and The Boatman’s Daughter. The Hollow Kind is his third book and it packs a lot into its 400 pages. It’s as dense and weighty as an imploding paper star. It’s a haunted house story (of sorts), a creature feature (of sorts) and a whole lot of Southern Gothic of many kinds. The prose is lush and wow, does Andy know a lot about the history of Georgia both human and natural.We talk about that, as well as the link between industry and horror, the allure of extreme violence, and the sheer delight of finding a map at the front of a book. Plus, we go a little deeper than usual into the nature and origins of the evil at the heart of the story.Enjoy and have a happy Halloween my horror-loving siblings!The Hollow Kind was released on October 11th by MCD Other books mentioned in this episode include:
The Boatman’s Daughter (2020), by Andy Davidson
Convulsive (2022), by Joe Koch
Absalom, Absalom! (1936), by William Faulkner
Poachers (1999), by Tom Franklin
Knockemstiff (2008), by Donald Ray Pollock
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Oct 18, 2022 • 1h 5min
114 – Erin E. Adams & Monsters in the Rust Belt
Send us a textIt was Thomas Wolfe who wrote “you can never go home again.” Huh, what did he know? (yes, I understand the metaphor – move on!)This week’s guest proves that whilst you can go home, you may not want to. Erin E. Adams is an actor, playwright and now the debut author of JACKAL, a novel of homecomings horrid and awful. Each year, in the small Pennsylvania town of Johnstown, a young Black girl goes missing, taken by whatever lurks in the woods surrounding the town. Helluva premise!!Erin takes us on a tour of Johnstown, both the real and the sorta fictional version. We talk about justification and paranoia, about anger as a superpower and the notion that horror is a genre for white people. She explores the epochal moments from her town’s history and goes deep on her feelings about Black horror’s handling of trauma. Then we compare our memories of small-town adolescence – finding that some sh*t is the same all around the world. Enjoy!Jackal was released on October 4th by Bantam.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
How to Recognize a Demon has Become Your Friend (2011), by Linda Addison
Come With Me (2021), by Ronald Malfi – episode 49
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Oct 11, 2022 • 1h 4min
113 – Rachel Harrison & Teeth, Needles & Gnomes
Send us a textDo you know anyone with hairy palms? Weird question, but as this week’s novel-in-question will convince you, it’s best to be careful around the hirsute.Our guest is Rachel Harrison, returning to Talking Scared with her brand new SUCH SHARP TEETH. It’s a tale of small-town relationships, female transformation, love and … werewolves.Anyone who has read either of Rachel’s previous novels, The Return or Cackle, will know that she has a knack for reinventing horror tropes within snarky satire. Such Sharp Teeth is no different in that regard. Rachel and I talk about messy characters, beastly metaphors, and rage filled rooms. We get into the unexpected earnestness of romance, and we wonder if horror comedy may well be the best genre to represent contemporary existence.And stick around because Rachel also has the best ever answer to the question, what truly scares you… Enjoy!Such Sharp Teeth is released on October 4th by Berkley.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Build Your House Around My Body (2021), by Violet Kupersmith
The Return (2020), by Rachel Harrison – episode 17
Cackle (2021), by Rachel Harrison
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Oct 4, 2022 • 1h 7min
112 – Jamie Flanagan & Stories as Companions for Loneliness
Send us a textThe best and spookiest season starts in earnest, this year on Talking Scared. Our guest is Jamie Flanagan, actor, screenwriter, and part of the team who delivered such televisual delights as The Haunting of Bly Manor, Midnight Mass and now, The Midnight Club.With The Midnight Club due to land on Netflix worldwide this Friday – I rejigged the schedule to sneak in a chat with Jamie about his work on the show, his relationship with horror-maestro director, Mike Flanagan, and some of the magic that bubbled to the surface in Midnight Mass. Jamie pulls back the veil on the mythical ‘writers room’. He talks about the difficulty of getting anything to screen. And we talk, of course, about the influence of Stephen King.It’s a pleasant detour this week, away from books, without leaving the literary entirely behind.Enjoy!The Midnight Club is released worldwide on Netflix, October 7th. Other books mentioned in this episode include:
The Midnight Club (1994), by Christopher Pike
The Mist (1980), by Stephen King
House of Leaves (2000), by Mark Z. Danielewski
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Sep 27, 2022 • 1h 9min
111 – Alexis Henderson and Hot Marxist Bloodletting
Send us a textIt’s not only vampires that drink blood. That’s what we find out on this week’s episode. Our guest is Alexis Henderson – author of The Year of the Witching and now, her sophomore novel, House of Hunger. It’s a luscious, lurid tale of dark fantasy, blood and sex. Y’know … all the good stuff.Oh, and it’s one of my favourite books of the year.Alexis and I discuss the collision of horror and fantasy, the erotics and politics of blood, and the double standards when it comes to female perversion. We also talk a little about a certain Bloody Countess, who plays a big part in the background of House of Hunger. Enjoy!House of Hunger is released September 27th by Ace Books Other books mentioned in this episode include:
A Dowry of Blood (2022), by S.T. Gibson
The Year of the Witching (2021), by Alexis Henderson
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Sep 20, 2022 • 1h 16min
110 – Clay McLeod Chapman and Unhealthy Obsession with Clear Plastic Tarps
Send us a textWanna get haunted?That’s the delightful proposition offered by Clay McLeod Chapman’s Ghost Eaters – a novel of ghosts, grief and ghastly narcotics. Just take one pill and you can sell all the phantoms that surround you. What a premise! It’s Clay’s second time on Talking Scared and he’s always welcome. There are few more honest, open, and thoughtful writers out there. This time around we go deep, into the real emotional core of Ghost Eaters, talking about lost friends and long-ago dreams. We discuss 90s indie art, postmodernism’s pains-in-the-ass, and our drug experiences (turns out we’re lame).Oh, and there are Machine Elves. What are Machine Elves, you ask? Listen to find out. Enjoy!Ghost Eaters is released September 20th by Quirk Books Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Between Two Fires (2012), by Christopher Buehlman
Whisper Down the Lane (2021), by Clay McLeod Chapman – (episode 32)
The Secret History (1992), by Donna Tartt
Infinite Jest (19960, by David Foster Wallace
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Sep 13, 2022 • 1h 57min
109 – Gemma Amor and The Big Mental Health in Horror Bonanza
Send us a textThe time has finally come to go to the scariest place imaginable – the inside of the human mind. Thankfully, we have a friend to accompany us on this most hideous of trips. I’m joined this week by Gemma Amor, author of the brand-new techno-horror FULL IMMERSION. It’s a book that deals with trauma, psychosis and experimental treatment, and it’s the perfect springboard for an epic conversation about mental health in horror.Gemma and I cover the autobiographical elements of her novel and how it helped her recovery. I lay bare my own neurosis and explain why this genre is not necessarily a safe space. And Gemma explains the dangerous reality of being a woman in the horror game. If that all sounds a tad sombre, don’t worry – there is also chat about the Uncanny Valley, Men in Black, Creepypasta and Black Mirror. As well as the pros and cons of pushing over racist statues.It’s a long episode this one. You won’t get this level of self-indulgence every week. But it was just too good a conversation to cut short.Let’s head into my head, it’s scary there!!Enjoy!Full Immersion is released September 13th by Angry Robot Read Gemma’s essay - The Female Experience of FearSupport Talking Scared on PatreonCome talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices